What makes a city good for pickup? Business move.

[Prince]

So before Queen Corona hit I did research endlessly on countries and cities to travel to to get my first overseas experience. As we all know that has to be on hold now. But it seems Eastern Europe and Latin America rule for most desired.

I'm an American and I have a business that started making profit and soon I want to move from where I am.

So before I overthink I'd like to hear your guys outlook on what makes a city good for pickup, game and all that fun stuff. If I can live somewhere where I don't have to run 9001 approaches to lay a nice woman that would be great. BUT I do enjoy the hunt. You have to in Seattle or you'll go crazy.

I was thinking San Diego or Vegas.
I'd love to learn from the Vets. Thanks in advance if you reply.

I have learned warm weather plus tourism usually equals a good time. Also my business involves video with women so... This is also a business decision. If I can utilize game and not hire models so much my profits will skyrocket.

 

[BigPapa]

>= 1 mil people in the city
- good weather
- touristic
- good universities
- at least 1 nice park

I would go for : Barcelona , Bogota , Buenos Aires or Montevideo

Edit : I would also add : Marseille , Milano , Rome , Lisbon and Malaga

 

[Velasco]

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[Mr.Rob]

NYC is prob one of the best cities in the US from what I hear. Miami South Beach is pretty epic as well though I hear the people that live there are quite status concious. I've mostly onlly interacted with tourists in Miami (of which there are TONS) but that has been my experience with the local women there. Either way a phenomenal pickup destination and both of those cities are daygame paradises.

LA and San Diego are decent from what I hear, I've gamed a bit in LA. Women in California are much more beautiful than rest of the country but the competition for women is much fiercer than on the east coast.

Personally I'm looking to relocate as well having been in Florida my whole life and all my sources point out of the US.

US has one of the most unhealthy populations in the world, which translates into a lot of fat girls and thin girls with busted faces.

A true pickup paradise is going to have all those qualities you mention but have an actual abundance of gorgeous women. Eastern Europe and Asia are ripe with this type of talent.

From my friends in Eastern Europe they say that a Ukranian 7 is an American 8.5. The American 10 is a Ukrainian 8.5. Not to mention all that fat girls that you have to sift through in America are almost non existent in these countries (BINGO). Talk about abundance mentality

Now I've yet to see it with my eyes but I've heard this anecdotally from about 8+ sources that are very good with women and have spent a lot of time in the US and also in these countries.

As another plus you have more traditional gender roles in these countries meaning the women are actually feminine and the men are actually masculine (whereas in the west you have masculine women and feminine men so the polarity is more equal... but less ideal for sexual dynamics).

In other words if you can set your business up to run outside the states Id probably try to do that...

Oh and did I mention the cost of living in these countries is like 1/3 of that of America... Add it all up and America starts seeming less and less attractive to the seducer of beautiful women.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Vegas will probably be the city you wan to be in, even moreso than the others mentioned, because of your business. You will find a lot more women cool with showing their bodies on video compared to the rest of the country and it is not as cut-throat as LA.

I'd avoid the following major cities in North America though from my experience not only having lived there but having talked to countless men there who are suffering. The following cities suck due to low quality of women overall, bad ratios, and female attitudes that make it so you have to jump through hoops to get a date with an average looking chick:

• San Francisco or anywhere in the Bay Area
• Toronto
• Atlanta
• Los Angeles (not doable if you lack promoter connections or access to celeb status)

NYC is also slowly going down the drain for dating in recent years from what I am hearing and experienced in small doses, apparently a drove of PUAs, women from lame cities above, and techies with serial killer vibes invaded the city and now it has gone downhill. Visited buddies in 2019 and we went to Le Bain, Catch, and a handful of other bars. All three places were not like we knew them, went from cool east coast kids and Europeans to us running into a whole lot of Californians with that passive aggressive vibe. Even talked to a bartender at a bar we crashed at late at night saying the city is socially changing for the worse for men, he said something along the lines of when dudes found out there were a lot of single women in the city, everyone and their grandpas flooded it.

Was at this LES rooftop called Indigo or something, was a buzz with the locals and the place to go, saw so many PUAs spam approaching that my friend who took me there even said that this is very much a new thing for the city. One was a balding older Asian dude spam approaching white girls and getting blown out left to right.

 

[hater58]

I'm in a smaller midwestern city and am really hoping that when I ultimately move to a bigger city things will be better with more people around.

 

[Tank]

There's a difference between good for learning pickup and good for results. Obviously for learning you want a city that's fairly warm yearround has a large and constantly changing population, and numerous public night and day venues. Places like Vegas and Barcelona are touted up there as options. Also LA and Sydney.
For easier to get laid that's places where you are exotic and your value is uncommon in that country, like a hip outgoing black guy in Sweden or a rich blond guy in South America.

 

[YS.]

Depends on who YOU are but the answer will answer be Vegas. Don't even listen to anyone whose first answer isn't Vegas. The only problem in Vegas is it can teach you bad fundamentals because how of easy things are if you ever move out of there.

If you have more of a hippie/raver/partier/techno/EDM vibe; Berlin is crazy.
If you love status games and actresses/celebrities; LA is great.
If you are a businessman and have a business / socialite vibe the answer is obviously New York.

Any big, western, sexually liberated city is good for game; the rest depends on your personality and lifestyle. Your game will be better if you love the city and feel at home.

Now, the flipside of this is this; if you have GOOD GAME ALREADY, you can really leverage your tight game in Asia and more impoverished countries where your actual existence is High Value (so you need little attraction but tight frames, comfort & leading) and you don't need to show a lot of HV behaviors, girls are much more willing and compliant as they see you as this unique butterfly.

A user said something profound. Better to do game or to get results from game? Because it's a big difference. Give me the crazy party culture of Berlin ANY DAY over some status leverage bullshit in South East Asia but that's just me. Would I get more results in SEA? Maybe. Probably. Never been there. But definitely plausible. But is that worth living in a shitty-dangerous country I don't like going out at? Dunno. Depends on who you are.

But yeah, the default answer will always be Vegas.

 

[Prince]

Vegas will probably be the city you want to be in, even moreso than the others mentioned, because of your business. You will find a lot more women cool with showing their bodies on video compared to the rest of the country and it is not as cut-throat as LA.

I'd avoid the following major cities in North America though from my experience not only having lived there but having talked to countless men there who are suffering. The following cities suck due to low quality of women overall, bad ratios, and female attitudes that make it so you have to jump through hoops to get a date with an average looking chick:

• San Francisco or anywhere in the Bay Area
• Toronto
• Atlanta
• Los Angeles (not doable if you lack promoter connections or access to celeb status)

NYC is also slowly going down the drain for dating in recent years from what I am hearing and experienced in small doses, apparently a drove of PUAs, women from lame cities above, and techies with serial killer vibes invaded the city and now it has gone downhill. Visited buddies in 2019 and we went to Le Bain, Catch, and a handful of other bars. All three places were not like we knew them, went from cool east coast kids and Europeans to us running into a whole lot of Californians with that passive aggressive vibe. Even talked to a bartender at a bar we crashed at late at night saying the city is socially changing for the worse for men, he said something along the lines of when dudes found out there were a lot of single women in the city, everyone and their grandpas flooded it.

Was at this LES rooftop called Indigo or something, was a buzz with the locals and the place to go, saw so many PUAs spam approaching that my friend who took me there even said that this is very much a new thing for the city. One was a balding older Asian dude spam approaching white girls and getting blown out left to right.

WOW.
This kind of blew me away but didn't. If you go on reddit all the guys are talking about NYC being a single guys playground. Only makes sense it eventually got saturated. And I've heard horror stories from Toronto. They say it rivals Seattle. And I knew two girls from there and they had the most passive agrresive entitled attitude I encountered. Well some of the most.

Thank you very much for this info drop

And to all the other replies:
Yeah Cro Magnon your reply just came in. It's so much back and forth about NYC but I'll stand by and say it's not the biz it used to be. I keep hearing good things about Vegas and now that I think about it it'll be great for business anyways since my business needs models. Thing is I'm in this dilemma where I am not sure if I should leverage a city like Vegas or just go where I'm coveted. I already did my research and did tinder gold and online dating sites and saw my reception out there. So I know I can leverage that. Like Mr Rob said it'd be phenomenal if I could set up shop out of a Ukraine or something but for a business visa I need more profit first. However a month trip overseas could net me more than 2 or 3 months in the US for my business so... Regardless I need a new base.

Also my business is more kink oriented so they aren't just posing for pics if you guys catch my drift. So open minded women are a huge plus. Seattle's talent and attitude shucked. But one thing it does have is freaky chicks. Which helped me Kickstart everything.

Also I'm tall, dark and in shape so I am already used to capitalizing on my "existence" in a 4% black state. But I feel of I can game here I can only imagine what it may be like for me overseas. I've been grinding for years and just finally want my breakthrough. 20/80 principle type deal. I started this business while homeless. Can't stop now.

Thanks a lot fellow hunters for the knowledge.
So far I'm gonna look into Vegas and maybe Miami. It's just I feel Miami may have that LA light vibe to it and while I have a podcast and network really well I'm no show promoter. So status game isn't my gig. More raw approach mixed with some opportunistic vibes. And lastly I know for a fact Barcelona has to get a visit. It seems all Europeana flock there. France... I just never heard rave things from there. And how they want you to speak French only etc. Granted it's their country but... Idk about daygame there. I already know Berlin is off the chain for parties. My Brazilian friends told me about Berlin. Thanks for the list BigPapa.

Thanks again guys.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Yeah NYC used to be a city I wanted to set up permanent residence in but man the social scene is going downhill. As soon as they released the gender ratios chart many years back, the entire Bay Area flooded here. Then the uptick in Williamsburg hype caused some of the most narcissistic women from dumps like Toronto and San Francisco to flood in too.

What happened is that NYC used to be a hidden gem for game. The gritty perception, bad weather, and long-time bad stereotypes kept the shallow, narcissistic, and social media obsessed women out. You came to the city for business and women often went to LA to be "cool". Note that certain cities like Toronto, Bay Area, and Atlanta produce a lot of women who are stuck in a high school mentality and obsessed with cool culture. Meanwhile those very cities have no culture worthwhile of their own so these women flooded to the LAs of the world to live their cool girl fantasy, fearing that NYC was too seriously.

As soon as NYC started being seen as hipster haven and the young trendy, it got flooded by San Francisco freakshows and Canadian trash. Now the vibe is more thrown off.

I agree with you, Canadian women from the Anglo part of Canada are significantly damaged.

 

[FunGuy]

Wait are you moving because of the business or is the business already in good shape and you want to move somewhere to game? It depends on your goals, if you aren't that good yet and want to improve, then go to a city where you could spam approach like NYC or LA, anywhere that has a high population. If your already good then go somewhere you know you would enjoy the lifestyle, if your into partying go somewhere like vegas or miami.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

as of right now, I do not recommend NYC for anyone, heard it is getting dangerous up there as the rich leave

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Yo OP, if you are still around, just thought you should know. Vegas has a record unemployment rate right now, highest in the country for the state of Nevada. So many jobs were in the service and entertainment and events industry, COVID hit em hard. NYC is emptying out as the rich leave, my friends who are in the city have left to go back home or are close to not even renewing their lease. I'd stay away from the city until 2021 at least. IMO, NYC nightlife is going to take a while to recover.

I would consider South Florida though, lots of NYers (including the hot girls) moved there and it is opening up. Remote work should be realistic and you get no state income tax. I'd also consider Austin and Dallas, the Texas cities are starting to open up more too. Unfortunately, Austin has been victim to the California infestation though.

 

[WittyJester]

Vegas will probably be the city you wan to be in, even moreso than the others mentioned, because of your business. You will find a lot more women cool with showing their bodies on video compared to the rest of the country and it is not as cut-throat as LA.

I'd avoid the following major cities in North America though from my experience not only having lived there but having talked to countless men there who are suffering. The following cities suck due to low quality of women overall, bad ratios, and female attitudes that make it so you have to jump through hoops to get a date with an average looking chick:

• San Francisco or anywhere in the Bay Area
• Toronto
• Atlanta
• Los Angeles (not doable if you lack promoter connections or access to celeb status)

NYC is also slowly going down the drain for dating in recent years from what I am hearing and experienced in small doses, apparently a drove of PUAs, women from lame cities above, and techies with serial killer vibes invaded the city and now it has gone downhill. Visited buddies in 2019 and we went to Le Bain, Catch, and a handful of other bars. All three places were not like we knew them, went from cool east coast kids and Europeans to us running into a whole lot of Californians with that passive aggressive vibe. Even talked to a bartender at a bar we crashed at late at night saying the city is socially changing for the worse for men, he said something along the lines of when dudes found out there were a lot of single women in the city, everyone and their grandpas flooded it.

Was at this LES rooftop called Indigo or something, was a buzz with the locals and the place to go, saw so many PUAs spam approaching that my friend who took me there even said that this is very much a new thing for the city. One was a balding older Asian dude spam approaching white girls and getting blown out left to right.

Why Is Toronto bad for pickup? What would you suggest doing if you live there?

 

[WittyJester]

Yeah NYC used to be a city I wanted to set up permanent residence in but man the social scene is going downhill. As soon as they released the gender ratios chart many years back, the entire Bay Area flooded here. Then the uptick in Williamsburg hype caused some of the most narcissistic women from dumps like Toronto and San Francisco to flood in too.

What happened is that NYC used to be a hidden gem for game. The gritty perception, bad weather, and long-time bad stereotypes kept the shallow, narcissistic, and social media obsessed women out. You came to the city for business and women often went to LA to be "cool". Note that certain cities like Toronto, Bay Area, and Atlanta produce a lot of women who are stuck in a high school mentality and obsessed with cool culture. Meanwhile those very cities have no culture worthwhile of their own so these women flooded to the LAs of the world to live their cool girl fantasy, fearing that NYC was too seriously.

As soon as NYC started being seen as hipster haven and the young trendy, it got flooded by San Francisco freakshows and Canadian trash. Now the vibe is more thrown off.

I agree with you, Canadian women from the Anglo part of Canada are significantly damaged.

Can you be more specific about Toronto? What would you suggest doing if you live there and why is it so bad?

 

[hater58]

This definitely does not make me want to move to NYC.

I wonder about a mid size city in the south like charlotte. Has warm weather advantages for sure.

 

[Prince]

Yo OP, if you are still around, just thought you should know. Vegas has a record unemployment rate right now, highest in the country for the state of Nevada. So many jobs were in the service and entertainment and events industry, COVID hit em hard. NYC is emptying out as the rich leave, my friends who are in the city have left to go back home or are close to not even renewing their lease. I'd stay away from the city until 2021 at least. IMO, NYC nightlife is going to take a while to recover.

I would consider South Florida though, lots of NYers (including the hot girls) moved there and it is opening up. Remote work should be realistic and you get no state income tax. I'd also consider Austin and Dallas, the Texas cities are starting to open up more too. Unfortunately, Austin has been victim to the California infestation though.

Yeah so things went well for my business and I have decided I am ready to move soon. But it's ashame, with NYC emptying out I felt as though there may be a lot of hidden opportunity there now? The numbers + my podcast would do great there had it not taken the route you guys mention here. Furthermore, what you said about the guys from the Bay Area flooding it is very true because doing research I saw women talking about how many of their dates were guys from the Bay Area... in NYC! Wtf is going on in the Bay Area to make those men so thirsty??? I just don't get it, are the womens attitude that bad? They've gotta be fucking -some-body? Shit is crazy. Sounds worse than Seattle.

Vegas I heard mixed things on. Maybe I just gotta visit. So many guys either say Vegas is "weird" and it's too many hookers or when women go there they only go to celebrate/have fun not hook up or in my case model. But some also say it's pretty nice.

And Miami's weather turns me off, hate the humidity. But if it really is poppin' down there I can deal with it. I just gotta visit these two I guess.
I think I'll do Miami first while I'm still in the Southeast.

This definitely does not make me want to move to NYC.

I wonder about a mid size city in the south like charlotte. Has warm weather advantages for sure.

Spent years in Charlotte and am here now! Very friendly women. No complaints besides it lacks numbers, most move here to settle down and I feel it's got a bit of segregation culture. You gotta jump through extra hoops if you want to interracially date here, as white, blacks and Asians live in their own circles etc. However I see a LOT of White/Black here. But I haven't learned how to penetrate that myself. This city is kinda weird in the fact that you can see interracial dating etc, but I have no idea where they are meeting. Which brings to me believe people meet through work/school or something, which is a negative for daygame. Also it's got a corporate-light feel, and have heard men say you've got a touch of that $$$ matters most vibe from the women like on the West Coast. But overall I'd say it's good for daygame, just everything is shut down right now and tbh I can't even experiment, besides NoDa on the weekends this place is a snoozefest. And even NoDa is hella small and most the people know each other there or already were partnered up from what I saw, Just not big enough/a bit too family oriented for me.

 

[Prince]

Why Is Toronto bad for pickup? What would you suggest doing if you live there?

I have heard over the years Toronto is bad.
I remember seeing a article somewhere about how the quality of women is bad (looks wise) and their attitude kind of mirrors Bay Area/Seattle women. Ironically I knew a woman from Toronto in Seattle and she definitely had that passive-bitchy and entitled attitude.
The article mentioned how it's the Queen city of other women cockblocking when they see the actually attractive women getting game ran on them.
Never heard anything good about Toronto.

 

[West_Indian_Archie]

So before Queen Corona hit I did research endlessly on countries and cities to travel to to get my first overseas experience. As we all know that has to be on hold now. But it seems Eastern Europe and Latin America rule for most desired.

I'm an American and I have a business that started making profit and soon I want to move from where I am.

So before I overthink I'd like to hear your guys outlook on what makes a city good for pickup, game and all that fun stuff. If I can live somewhere where I don't have to run 9001 approaches to lay a nice woman that would be great. BUT I do enjoy the hunt. You have to in Seattle or you'll go crazy.

I was thinking San Diego or Vegas.
I'd love to learn from the Vets. Thanks in advance if you reply.

I have learned warm weather plus tourism usually equals a good time. Also my business involves video with women so... This is also a business decision. If I can utilize game and not hire models so much my profits will skyrocket.

1) Without a doubt, if I was making internet/online/location independent money it would be Vegas. I'd rent a place in or nearby the Cosmopolitan. I haven't been in a while, but I don't think Uber is popping in Vegas. Moreover, living closer to the action makes a man more likely to go out.

There's no speakable day game (because of the heat, and comparing it to NYC - otherwise, you can run your spiel at Wholefoods like the rest of the rookies). And with this current environment, it will be a while for it to come back.

And the draw for Vegas is two fold, 1) Endless Tourists for practicing your SNL game. 2) Local living Stripper/Bartender/Shot Girl/Waitress/Hostess Game + nearby party school UNLV makes the population far more attractive than it should be for a city of that size.

Austin and Scottsdale also have those demographic effects working. There are probably some hidden gems in the South and Midwest, but I can't think of any right off hand. IMO, none of the other East Coast cities (Boston, Baltimore, Philly, DC, nothing in the Mid Atlantic/Low Country) is worth moving to for women. A job is one thing, but I'm not moving to the sticks to pull chicks that go to Duke or Wake Forest.

Miami and ATL are LA lite. And arguably the "stripper/instagram thot culture" is even stronger in those areas than they are in LA/LV.

I haven't heard much good things about Denver, SF, Portland or Seattle.

San Diego is probably more chill than LA, but I'd take LA over SD anytime. The draw for SD is the schools, but LA has the schools and Hollywood (and porn valley). So just on the population numbers, you're going to be in a richer environment.

2) If I was netting 20-30k a month, then I'd start thinking about NYC. (Though a lot of people live on 30k A YEAR IN NYC, it's not nearly as fun). Even without the day and night game issue, creating a social circle via shared interest or online game is a good look IF YOU LIVE IN MANHATTAN. If you're taking the train in from Queens or Bumblefuck Brooklyn, NYC is not worth moving if girls are your mission.

Aside from that, right now a lot of the PUA/Lifestyle Design/Digital Nomads gurus have been going to Mexico City. David Bond, Bradicus, Justin Marc are there right now.

Before the virus issues,
1) Ukraine/Poland (although everyone seems to love EE, former USSR, and the Balkans),
2) Medellin specifically and Colombia in general (over Peru and Brazil),
3) Hanoi/Saigon or Manila/Davao Philippines.

Having been to Phils, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Thailand, I lean towards Vietnam myself. BKK is essentially NYC in South East Asia, it's not particularly cheap these days either. The developed part of the Philippines might as well be the US in terms of pricing. Vietnam was truly cheap though.

Low key, West Africa and East Africa are also hot spots, but if you're not a seasoned traveler, not for rookies. I've never heard anything good about Istanbul or Beirut (though the women are beautiful, easier to pull in Europe than in their home countries). The Middle East, North Africa, and India seem to be absolute hellholes in terms of casual hookups. If I wanted to meet another Pakistani chick, I'd go to London before Lahore.

I'm sure there are players there, because biology - but a Western Style game doesn't lend itself to those cultures.

If you're thinking about moving abroad, learn the language online, visit for a 2-4 weeks, and then make a decision. The first 5-7 days anywhere are great. It's when you have to find laundry, go the post office, and do mundane things that makes you really understand a place, imo.

As for the hiring models, I can't seem to find the story, but a Wall Street guy moved to Argentina or something and started a modeling agency (legit models). And he was able to leverage that to get into some of the higher social circles in the country.

I also know of cats moving to Panama and starting "cam girl" houses...but given that this is a Family Friendly Forum, i'll leave that up to your imagination.

WIA

 

[Prince]

1) Without a doubt, if I was making internet/online/location independent money it would be Vegas. I'd rent a place in or nearby the Cosmopolitan. I haven't been in a while, but I don't think Uber is popping in Vegas. Moreover, living closer to the action makes a man more likely to go out.

There's no speakable day game (because of the heat, and comparing it to NYC - otherwise, you can run your spiel at Wholefoods like the rest of the rookies). And with this current environment, it will be a while for it to come back.

And the draw for Vegas is two fold, 1) Endless Tourists for practicing your SNL game. 2) Local living Stripper/Bartender/Shot Girl/Waitress/Hostess Game + nearby party school UNLV makes the population far more attractive than it should be for a city of that size.

Austin and Scottsdale also have those demographic effects working. There are probably some hidden gems in the South and Midwest, but I can't think of any right off hand. IMO, none of the other East Coast cities (Boston, Baltimore, Philly, DC, nothing in the Mid Atlantic/Low Country) is worth moving to for women. A job is one thing, but I'm not moving to the sticks to pull chicks that go to Duke or Wake Forest.

Miami and ATL are LA lite. And arguably the "stripper/instagram thot culture" is even stronger in those areas than they are in LA/LV.

I haven't heard much good things about Denver, SF, Portland or Seattle.

San Diego is probably more chill than LA, but I'd take LA over SD anytime. The draw for SD is the schools, but LA has the schools and Hollywood (and porn valley). So just on the population numbers, you're going to be in a richer environment.

2) If I was netting 20-30k a month, then I'd start thinking about NYC. (Though a lot of people live on 30k A YEAR IN NYC, it's not nearly as fun). Even without the day and night game issue, creating a social circle via shared interest or online game is a good look IF YOU LIVE IN MANHATTAN. If you're taking the train in from Queens or Bumblefuck Brooklyn, NYC is not worth moving if girls are your mission.

Aside from that, right now a lot of the PUA/Lifestyle Design/Digital Nomads gurus have been going to Mexico City. David Bond, Bradicus, Justin Marc are there right now.

Before the virus issues,
1) Ukraine/Poland (although everyone seems to love EE, former USSR, and the Balkans),
2) Medellin specifically and Colombia in general (over Peru and Brazil),
3) Hanoi/Saigon or Manila/Davao Philippines.

Having been to Phils, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Thailand, I lean towards Vietnam myself. BKK is essentially NYC in South East Asia, it's not particularly cheap these days either. The developed part of the Philippines might as well be the US in terms of pricing. Vietnam was truly cheap though.

Low key, West Africa and East Africa are also hot spots, but if you're not a seasoned traveler, not for rookies. I've never heard anything good about Istanbul or Beirut (though the women are beautiful, easier to pull in Europe than in their home countries). The Middle East, North Africa, and India seem to be absolute hellholes in terms of casual hookups. If I wanted to meet another Pakistani chick, I'd go to London before Lahore.

I'm sure there are players there, because biology - but a Western Style game doesn't lend itself to those cultures.

If you're thinking about moving abroad, learn the language online, visit for a 2-4 weeks, and then make a decision. The first 5-7 days anywhere are great. It's when you have to find laundry, go the post office, and do mundane things that makes you really understand a place, imo.

As for the hiring models, I can't seem to find the story, but a Wall Street guy moved to Argentina or something and started a modeling agency (legit models). And he was able to leverage that to get into some of the higher social circles in the country.

I also know of cats moving to Panama and starting "cam girl" houses...but given that this is a Family Friendly Forum, i'll leave that up to your imagination.

WIA

Fascinating. Thanks a lot for the info bro.
In all honesty I'm sure I know what you mean by instagram culture. And want to avoid that. I toured L.A. and tbh I liked the vibe. Just heard so many bad things on the ground about L.A. when it comes to women, on this very thread even! Haha.
But yeah it's settled I gotta visit Vegas why the summer is still poppin' I'll be going next week so I'm hype to report back to you guys.
And yeah I know all about the cam studio stuff. That's a bit too big budget and management for me so I'm sticking to a studio with recorded content. That webcam stuff has too many moving parts for me at my level.
And I know white guys especially kill it down there in Latin America. Seems you can also get cheap nonstop flights to MX from Vegas too, thats surely a bonus! I may have to pull out all my social skills to get into social circles in Vegas but... we'll see!