What to do when a girl ghosts after asking for a date

[matheth]

So there are two girls ive been trying to game but it has been pretty difficult and i've no idea what to do.

Girl # 1
I've met this chick while daygaming in a big shopping street on a saturday. She was giving away some pamphlets for a clothes store she worked at. I've initially asked her about places to eat in this shopping street and after talking for some time (both she and me have piercings so we talked about that) she told me her friend was crying after getting a piercing and that she was shaking (ive latter sent her a message to her ig making a reference to this). My game wasnt as strong as it couldve been but i applied a lot of kino and then asker for her ig so we can go later to a tattoo store and check it out.

On ig she would take foreverrrr to text back, sometimes 1 full day. Eventually i got tired and stopped messaging her for a while. After this i sent her a message checking up on her and after a bit of back and forth invited her to go get some drinks. She said she didnt like beer so i suggested some mates (local non alcoholic drink) to which she didnt respond up until about 3 hours before the meeting time (she didnt confirm either so i had already called it off in my mind).

Girl # 2

So i met this chick in a language exchange bar which holds a gathering every thursday. I had already seen her before with a couple of beta orbiters friends. I decided to game her regardless of the flock of AFC thirsting over her pussy and eventually got her ig for the excuse of inviting her to a gathering for digital nomads (she told me she wanted to start freelancing). After some back and forth i invited her to a bar with a similar vibe to the one we met at. I sent her an anti flaking message next day but she didnt respond and ledt me on read after a couple of days.
As a side note this chick has some pretty sexy photos where she's showing her tongue or ass and shit so she might just be into friendzoning guy after guy. She told me how she had rejected some other influencer guy who didnt have many followers.


So my question is what do you think I'm doing wrong, i feel i could still game these girls but I don't know what strategy to have. I felt a good vibe with the whorish girl # 2 but I feel like its gonna be very hard to game her. Regarding girl#1 she always takes too long to respond so that makes seducing her very difficult.

 

[orkie123]

Most times, at this stage there is very little you can do to turn the situation around. At least not in the short term.

The most likely reason was somewhere along the lines they didnt think you were exciting enough to put up the effort to go out with you. There isnt enough info on your post to take a guess but most of the time it's the initial interaction.

I would focus on trying to create a more powerful emotional connection during day game and trying to isolate girls same night when going to events like languahe exchange. "I like your vibe, lets go grab a drink at this cool bar with less distractions"

Of course it could be a zillion other reasons why they flake, some which have nothing to do with you. Just part of life.

What I tend to do is give girls 2-3 chances depending on how they flake and then add them to the "whatever category"

In the whatever category, I only respond to their insta stories or send them messages that are interesting and relatable (e.g. pic of something which is an inside joke or something we talked about). Basically being aloof but high quality when I do text them.

This is mostly for boosting my ego and self entertainment though because even if girls love those initial msgs, they usually go back to flaking if you steer it towards meeting.

Occasionally though you do manage to convert some girls after a while. But most you just give up along the way.

All this to say, the best way is always to find new girls and have better first interactions then try to salvage those that didnt lead to anything.

 

[Will_V]

So there are two girls ive been trying to game but it has been pretty difficult and i've no idea what to do.

Girl # 1
I've met this chick while daygaming in a big shopping street on a saturday. She was giving away some pamphlets for a clothes store she worked at. I've initially asked her about places to eat in this shopping street and after talking for some time (both she and me have piercings so we talked about that) she told me her friend was crying after getting a piercing and that she was shaking (ive latter sent her a message to her ig making a reference to this). My game wasnt as strong as it couldve been but i applied a lot of kino and then asker for her ig so we can go later to a tattoo store and check it out.

On ig she would take foreverrrr to text back, sometimes 1 full day. Eventually i got tired and stopped messaging her for a while. After this i sent her a message checking up on her and after a bit of back and forth invited her to go get some drinks. She said she didnt like beer so i suggested some mates (local non alcoholic drink) to which she didnt respond up until about 3 hours before the meeting time (she didnt confirm either so i had already called it off in my mind).

Girl # 2

So i met this chick in a language exchange bar which holds a gathering every thursday. I had already seen her before with a couple of beta orbiters friends. I decided to game her regardless of the flock of AFC thirsting over her pussy and eventually got her ig for the excuse of inviting her to a gathering for digital nomads (she told me she wanted to start freelancing). After some back and forth i invited her to a bar with a similar vibe to the one we met at. I sent her an anti flaking message next day but she didnt respond and ledt me on read after a couple of days.
As a side note this chick has some pretty sexy photos where she's showing her tongue or ass and shit so she might just be into friendzoning guy after guy. She told me how she had rejected some other influencer guy who didnt have many followers.


So my question is what do you think I'm doing wrong, i feel i could still game these girls but I don't know what strategy to have. I felt a good vibe with the whorish girl # 2 but I feel like its gonna be very hard to game her. Regarding girl#1 she always takes too long to respond so that makes seducing her very difficult.

Post your texts.

 

[matheth]

Texts are all in spanish but will translate

These are the texts for girl #2:
All texts were exchanged friday night
Me: Hey, it's agus from yesterday
Me: Were you bitten or harassed again yesterday? (She told me a bee and a mosquito bit her and some bald dude tried kissing her)
Her: Hahah how are you
Her: No, luckily not. Anyways we left almost immediatedly with my friends bc today i had to work haha
Me: Same, slept literally 5 hours so im like a zombie haha
Me: Did you do home office or had to go to the office in person
Her: 4 now i dont have home office so i had to get in the train
Me: If you carry a knitting kit with you you can make a coat with your fallen hairs hahha (she said earlier shes losing a lot of hair and i joked too about it making a joke at my expense cuz im balding)

Me: I can also help
Me: Ive been living for around 7 yrs here and I still dont know all the trains (was trying to get her to ask me where im from)
Me: CABA is huge (the city)
Her: I can sell the coats to foreigners hahah
Me: That's why you go to the language exchange bar
Me: to study the coat market haha
Me: anyways, speaking more seriously what brought your attention to this bar?
Her: just hanging around and practicing languages
Her: the place is kinda weird, i like that

Her: you?
Me: I like it because it's more chill than a nightclub but also more caotic than just a regular bar
Me: Besides ppl are more open to speak cuz the whole idea is to socialize and practice languages
Me: there's another bar near by similar in nature but without the language part
Her: what's the name? (gotchu bitch)
Me: REDACTED Bar
Me: its a restaurant that turns into a bar/nightclub at midnight (She hearted this )
Me: it opens tomorrow so if you want we can go have a drink there so you can get to know the place
Her: ill look it up and let you know ()

Next day:
Me: did you find it, its an open air bar
Luckily because its hot af

After this I got no response

Would post girl#1 but they span many days and dont wanna just paste a direct screenshoot of the texts for security reasons.

 

[matheth]

Most times, at this stage there is very little you can do to turn the situation around. At least not in the short term.

The most likely reason was somewhere along the lines they didnt think you were exciting enough to put up the effort to go out with you. There isnt enough info on your post to take a guess but most of the time it's the initial interaction.

I would focus on trying to create a more powerful emotional connection during day game and trying to isolate girls same night when going to events like languahe exchange. "I like your vibe, lets go grab a drink at this cool bar with less distractions"

Of course it could be a zillion other reasons why they flake, some which have nothing to do with you. Just part of life.

What I tend to do is give girls 2-3 chances depending on how they flake and then add them to the "whatever category"

In the whatever category, I only respond to their insta stories or send them messages that are interesting and relatable (e.g. pic of something which is an inside joke or something we talked about). Basically being aloof but high quality when I do text them.

This is mostly for boosting my ego and self entertainment though because even if girls love those initial msgs, they usually go back to flaking if you steer it towards meeting.

Occasionally though you do manage to convert some girls after a while. But most you just give up along the way.

All this to say, the best way is always to find new girls and have better first interactions then try to salvage those that didnt lead to anything.

I've always known that you gotta move fast if you want to have a change but for some reason I felt our in person interactions and chat responses were pretty good so that's why i got surprised when they flaked/put up dumb excuses. I am very much a beginner so there's still a lot of things i have to get down and its understandable to have poor pulls like these.

Even if I dont get to do anything with them id like to get as much info as I can from these two girls so that I dont make the same mistakes again.

 

[Will_V]

Texts are all in spanish but will translate

These are the texts for girl #2:
All texts were exchanged friday night
Me: Hey, it's agus from yesterday
Me: Were you bitten or harassed again yesterday? (She told me a bee and a mosquito bit her and some bald dude tried kissing her)
Her: Hahah how are you
Her: No, luckily not. Anyways we left almost immediatedly with my friends bc today i had to work haha
Me: Same, slept literally 5 hours so im like a zombie haha
Me: Did you do home office or had to go to the office in person
Her: 4 now i dont have home office so i had to get in the train
Me: If you carry a knitting kit with you you can make a coat with your fallen hairs hahha (she said earlier shes losing a lot of hair and i joked too about it making a joke at my expense cuz im balding)

Me: I can also help
Me: Ive been living for around 7 yrs here and I still dont know all the trains (was trying to get her to ask me where im from)
Me: CABA is huge (the city)
Her: I can sell the coats to foreigners hahah
Me: That's why you go to the language exchange bar
Me: to study the coat market haha
Me: anyways, speaking more seriously what brought your attention to this bar?
Her: just hanging around and practicing languages
Her: the place is kinda weird, i like that

Her: you?
Me: I like it because it's more chill than a nightclub but also more caotic than just a regular bar
Me: Besides ppl are more open to speak cuz the whole idea is to socialize and practice languages
Me: there's another bar near by similar in nature but without the language part
Her: what's the name? (gotchu bitch)
Me: REDACTED Bar
Me: its a restaurant that turns into a bar/nightclub at midnight (She hearted this )
Me: it opens tomorrow so if you want we can go have a drink there so you can get to know the place
Her: ill look it up and let you know ()

Next day:
Me: did you find it, its an open air bar
Luckily because its hot af

After this I got no response

Would post girl#1 but they span many days and dont wanna just paste a direct screenshoot of the texts for security reasons.

Hard to say from those texts what the problem is, if I had to guess you're missing a) qualifying her properly and b) possibly not being sexual or teasing enough (creating tension) in person.

The texts you posted are veering toward the 'friendly banter' zone and you are triple and quadruple texting (which is maybe ok if the text convo is flowing but not so much if there's a gap in between replies).

I don't really see in her texts either her asking about you, or her feeling your intent - there's a certain vibe to the way girls act and communicate when they feel and understand that you have a sexual interest, it's hard to describe, something like a mix of guardedness and qualifying herself, as if she's holding something she knows she's going to give up soon. Although in text it doesn't always come through, again that's my guess.