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Why am I getting auto rejected so quick?

DakenMarquis

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I'm hardly flirting, and just focused on being social unless theres a friendly/social reciprocation on her end, that feels like she might want more. I'm never pushy, and try to be decent/non needy/tryhard/creepy, but when i talk to girls I've already added on social, they block, dont respond or seem to open up/invest much. I seem to be mirrored, esp w style, culture etc. But I try to be gregarious and text to chat them up/catch up and I get these blow outs. What seems to be the issue? Not flirty/romantic enough(but idk if I even like them that way yet, esp if they havent complied/shown any interest in me). Are they doing this bc Im not forward enough/to make me chase or not interested at all?

So confused, and not sure how to read this.

~Daken

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Skills

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That is not auto rejection... You are using wrong terminology, they are not interested or lost interest in whatever approach you are doing...try going for number vs social media..
 

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I'm hardly flirting, and just focused on being social unless theres a friendly/social reciprocation on her end, that feels like she might want more. I'm never pushy, and try to be decent/non needy/tryhard/creepy, but when i talk to girls I've already added on social, they block, dont respond or seem to open up/invest much. I seem to be mirrored, esp w style, culture etc. But I try to be gregarious and text to chat them up/catch up and I get these blow outs. What seems to be the issue? Not flirty/romantic enough(but idk if I even like them that way yet, esp if they havent complied/shown any interest in me). Are they doing this bc Im not forward enough/to make me chase or not interested at all?

So confused, and not sure how to read this.

~Daken

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I recommend setting up the date before grabbing social/number. If you haven't gotten to the point where you feel like you can set up a date in person (this might be much earlier than you think), focus on getting to that point. In my experience, there's not a lot of seduction that can be done over texts. It's best to build the foundation for the interaction in person and plan logistics/further the interaction over text
 

DakenMarquis

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for more context: these are girls ive had added on social media for awhile. i post my dates and other girls on there, but have never asked these girls out. I've seen them wear ethnic wear (some white that mirrors my culture and something I wore once in my pics w other girls), and when I msg'd her, saw the update, how cool!" she blocked me, shes non frm the same background/ethnicity as myself. like a lot of her pics before her blocking me, mirrored mine, it was uncanny...

a few girls have also mirrored my career choices as well, like internships, cities i've worked/stayed in, its too coincidental for it to not seem like mirroring. but i expressed no romantic interest in them whatseoever, bc i see my social media only for updates and networking...
 

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I'm hardly flirting, and just focused on being social unless theres a friendly/social reciprocation on her end, that feels like she might want more. I'm never pushy, and try to be decent/non needy/tryhard/creepy, but when i talk to girls I've already added on social, they block, dont respond or seem to open up/invest much. I seem to be mirrored, esp w style, culture etc. But I try to be gregarious and text to chat them up/catch up and I get these blow outs. What seems to be the issue? Not flirty/romantic enough(but idk if I even like them that way yet, esp if they havent complied/shown any interest in me). Are they doing this bc Im not forward enough/to make me chase or not interested at all?

So confused, and not sure how to read this.
Could be an issue with how you are coming across or a lack of interest on your part .

It sounds like you are holding back on showing interest to them girls or you want to recipocrate it but you're afraid of coming off too strong.

Well you can learn how to show interest the right way




On first impression:-


Hope those help

Chad Tyrone
 

Chase

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You say you have to try to be decent and not be needy, try-hard, or creepy?

The first thing that pops to mind there is if you are having to try to do those things, there's a very good chance your attempts may not be as successful as you hope, especially if women are responding to a simple social media follow-up message by blocking or ignoring you.

Anyway, HERE IS THE RULE to follow for follow-up communication:

If you meet her in person, anything important you have to say to her, say it in person.

Trying to build a genuine connection over social media or get something going over messages that you did not get going in-person is doomed to failure, 99 times out of 100.

The only exception is if you have an absolute banger social media, with super sexy and high status pics and lifestyle plastered all over it, people saying, "Wow, your lifestyle is INCREDIBLE!" when they go on your social media, etc.

Otherwise, if you do not have that kind of social media, you need to do all the groundwork in person. Then if you want to use social media messaging, you are just using it for logistics.

Also:

But I try to be gregarious and text to chat them up/catch up and I get these blow outs.

How well do you know them?

My experience taking social media contacts from girls back when I still did that was if it was a girl I only met once and did not ask out it's a complete waste of time.

If it's a girl I knew in-person over a span of months or years, I'd have a little more leeway with her but it burns out quick. Anything you want to do with her, you'd better get to the point fast because she's going to stop responding in a few messages if you don't.

I've seen them wear ethnic wear (some white that mirrors my culture and something I wore once in my pics w other girls), and when I msg'd her, saw the update, how cool!" she blocked me, shes non frm the same background/ethnicity as myself. like a lot of her pics before her blocking me, mirrored mine, it was uncanny...

It sounds like you are trying to bond with girls over their social media photos.

It's not clear to me how this is different from what 1000s of other guys are doing on girls' social media?

I know you know this... we call it "simping."

Unless you have a really great dialogue with her on social media, with her also remarking on a lot of your photos, you should not be simping on her profile.

Girls who want male attention will allow it. But if she has a boyfriend or something and the guy doesn't like her having orbiters/simps, she will block you. If she has a guy she is talking to who she is into, and she is worried about him finding out she has guys who are simping on her, she will block you.

You really need to be doing this stuff in-person, not on social media.

Then, for the follow-up, use texting or a messaging app, not social media.

Chase
 
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DakenMarquis

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My social media's fairly good, I'm an influencer, and take great travel pics, model pics, am connected etc. But yes you never know what her frame of reference could be, which is why I'm always "social" friendly and never romantic/sexual unless I've just met her recently and the frame was set correctly, and the convo naturally flows. This issue seems to be women who've I have added thru school, friends, acquantices, and met at parties/similar social circle, but never asked them out/escalated bc I didnt think they'd be interested or werent receptive at first. New girls I add or ones I add after we've been together, are fine, not as much weird behavior, they meet up & we have our time together. It seems like these few examples I'm talking about were breadcrumbs of attention whoring, but also quite the investment on the girls' part, considering this one mixed race white/hispanic girl, went out of her way to go to a Sikh temple, dressed up in respectful traditional attire, which is something very out of her sense of normal, hence why I was curious and reached out, but her response was also quirky, i think she's awkward but may be playing it as a status move bc of attainability. Now I have no way to stay in touch, even if I wanted nothing more than a friendly catch up, hence the weirdness(wd have a decent amout of friends in common and went to the same school/classes etc).

Ofc im not gonna ask any of them for her contact or try to find her, lol I dont mind moving on, just curious why she would auto reject if she did or would want me to chase even tho theres only one avenue to reach out which would be our mutual connections, but we're far too busy, and its too much investment on my side to make this effort.
 

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I'm getting a gut feeling Chad's point might be the correct one, given how much I'm working on smv/rmv and am actively working on clout/status on social media, its just weird, bc you'd think they'd reach out if interested... esp if a guy has options and can get more/is scarce
 

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My social media's fairly good, I'm an influencer, and take great travel pics, model pics, am connected etc. But yes you never know what her frame of reference could be, which is why I'm always "social" friendly and never romantic/sexual unless I've just met her recently and the frame was set correctly, and the convo naturally flows.

In that case it may be a congruence issue.

"This guy has a really impressive social media and he was just platonic with me in person. Why is he suddenly commenting on me the same way the guys who are simps do?" and she can't make the two connect and just doesn't respond/blocks.

If I was you, instead of compliments on outfits/photos (which are easy to be interpreted as "simp-like"), I'd switch over to some kind of high value real world social offer, like "Come to this exclusive high end party my friends are throwing. I'll get you in", over anything that is going to read like a common simp message to her and make her feel confused/like you are behaving incongruent.

(is it sad men have to be very careful complimenting women on their appearances online due to the SIMP EPIDEMIC? I dunno. But it is for sure a thing)
 

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(is it sad men have to be very careful complimenting women on their appearances online due to the SIMP EPIDEMIC? I dunno. But it is for sure a thing)
The "Simp Epidemic". Lol that's a great term. I feel like this is the first and biggest sticking point for the vast, vast majority of men in 2024. Most guys think you're either a "Simp" or you're "Alpha", and there's basically no middle ground (no doubt thanks to the effective Red Pill influencers like Andrew Tate).
 

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My social media's fairly good, I'm an influencer, and take great travel pics, model pics, am connected etc. But yes you never know what her frame of reference could be, which is why I'm always "social" friendly and never romantic/sexual unless I've just met her recently and the frame was set correctly, and the convo naturally flows. This issue seems to be women who've I have added thru school, friends, acquantices, and met at parties/similar social circle, but never asked them out/escalated bc I didnt think they'd be interested or werent receptive at first. New girls I add or ones I add after we've been together, are fine, not as much weird behavior, they meet up & we have our time together. It seems like these few examples I'm talking about were breadcrumbs of attention whoring, but also quite the investment on the girls' part, considering this one mixed race white/hispanic girl, went out of her way to go to a Sikh temple, dressed up in respectful traditional attire, which is something very out of her sense of normal, hence why I was curious and reached out, but her response was also quirky, i think she's awkward but may be playing it as a status move bc of attainability. Now I have no way to stay in touch, even if I wanted nothing more than a friendly catch up, hence the weirdness(wd have a decent amout of friends in common and went to the same school/classes etc).

Ofc im not gonna ask any of them for her contact or try to find her, lol I dont mind moving on, just curious why she would auto reject if she did or would want me to chase even tho theres only one avenue to reach out which would be our mutual connections, but we're far too busy, and its too much investment on my side to make this effort.
oh i see... For ig if is like that, try to field test @POB strategy....

 

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oh i see... For ig if is like that, try to field test @POB strategy....

@DakenMarquis not because I wrote it, but +1 on trying this route.
It's simple, low key and really works.

Post your convos too so we can evaluate better.
 

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The "Simp Epidemic". Lol that's a great term. I feel like this is the first and biggest sticking point for the vast, vast majority of men in 2024. Most guys think you're either a "Simp" or you're "Alpha", and there's basically no middle ground (no doubt thanks to the effective Red Pill influencers like Andrew Tate).
alpha is the new cringe, to the point is the same as incel tbh, we can thank the red pill specially wes watson, fresh and fit and the rest of the retards.... i would not talk about alpha or anything to do with alpha with this gen, red pillers have totally destroyed the "alpha".....

 

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alpha is the new cringe, to the point is the same as incel tbh, we can thank the red pill specially wes watson, fresh and fit and the rest of the retards.... i would not talk about alpha or anything to do with alpha with this gen, red pillers have totally destroyed the "alpha".....
Soo true..."chad" is less cringe, but also bad.
Personaly I just use seducer for sucessfull guys.
 

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Chase wrote a long twitter thread on the terminology here:


I kept thinking I have a "history of alpha" somewhere, and linking my old "be an alpha male" article, but I reread that one recently and didn't talk about it there.

Well, I talked about it somewhere... anyway, it's in that thread for now.

Yeah, the alpha stuff is super cringe.

That's what happens when a bunch of cringe NON-COOL dudes come in and start commandeering some term.

Whatever the term is, as soon as uncool people start bandying about, it cringifies.

Then all the cool people need to switch to a new term.
 

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That's what happens when a bunch of cringe NON-COOL dudes come in and start commandeering some term.

Whatever the term is, as soon as uncool people start bandying about, it cringifies.

Then all the cool people need to switch to a new term.

ALPHA, BETA, SIGMA, SEDUCER, CHAD, INCEL.... blah blah blah

It's the male equivalent of horoscopes imo

Never really understood the obsession with guys trying so hard to label themselves, and whenever a dude starts telling me he is some label it comes across as super cringe to me

Personally more focused on doing things that get results and not trying to fit into some made up ideal of a man
 
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I'm getting a gut feeling Chad's point might be the correct one, given how much I'm working on smv/rmv and am actively working on clout/status on social media, its just weird, bc you'd think they'd reach out if interested... esp if a guy has options and can get more/is scarce

I'm an influencer too and it doesn't really work like that

Sure there are some girls that like the status but there are also some that don't give a shit about it


for more context: these are girls ive had added on social media for awhile. i post my dates and other girls on there, but have never asked these girls out.

Also have to be very careful with this G!

It can attract girls that are into the party lifestyle but it will also make some girls reject you because you come across too playerish and they don't match that lifestyle

I have personally noticed pre-selection on social media works so much better when it is subtle. For example rather than showing your dates you make a chick crack post "you cuddling with an animal" and girls commenting on your photos or liking it

Or you posting a photo with you at an event and then girls commenting on your outfit

Also I know some PUA love to tell guys to show other women on their profiles but this backfires more often than not. So again be careful with it


I'm hardly flirting, and just focused on being social unless theres a friendly/social reciprocation on her end, that feels like she might want more. I'm never pushy, and try to be decent/non needy/tryhard/creepy, but when i talk to girls I've already added on social, they block, dont respond or seem to open up/invest much. I seem to be mirrored, esp w style, culture etc. But I try to be gregarious and text to chat them up/catch up and I get these blow outs. What seems to be the issue? Not flirty/romantic enough(but idk if I even like them that way yet, esp if they havent complied/shown any interest in me). Are they doing this bc Im not forward enough/to make me chase or not interested at all?

My guess is you may be inconsistent with your approach

Meaning if you were super platonic when you exchanged info then become very gregarious and flirty over text it might come across disingenious

Like they are talking to 2 completely different guys

Maybe try being a bit more forward when you get the contact info so they know why you are actually keeping in touch

Meaning don't rely on social media to generate attraction. Instead use it as way to solidify the attraction you already built in person and set up a date from there
 
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