Why do so many men have nice girlfriends?

[John37]

Strange question isn't it?

According to the texts on girlchase.com most men don't know how to handle women. There seem to be many misunderstandings. Men are given bad information and learned the wrong behaviour.

But when I look arround at my friends and collegues, nearly everyone of them have a nice girlfriend or wife. And they don't have any knowledge about the information on this website. Why did they got their partners?

Of course these are not men with every week a new bed-partner. But they found that woman and she fell in love with him, despite he did everything wrong according to the information on this site.

My thought: If the large majority of men do it wrong, there would be much more singles and less (happy) couples.

Why? How can that be explained

Possibilities:
- By chance. Even when you do things not the right way, it can work out quite good if you are just lucky. A bad playing football team can win a match sometimes.
- What's written on this site does not apply to every woman in all cases, maybe there are moments women just want a partner and is more open to a man at that moment?

Any ideas?

I don't know.

 

[Bboy100]

John,

If what you're seeing contradicts what you see on this site, consider that maybe some of the things written here are wrong. Chase is not a god. Nor is he omniscient. He brings a lot of value. But ultimately, a lot of it is still just his opinion (same with all the other authors!). Whereas objective reality is fact.

I made the mistake of doing what you're doing now:
1. Accepting what Chase wrote is automatically true. THEN
2. Figuring out how reality fits into the Girlschase model (and believe me, its totally possible to do this. Our minds are very good at creating convincing evidence and/or rationalizing away how something that's completely false might be true. Especially if you're an intelligent guy).

In hindsight, I should have done the opposite:
1. Look at objective reality
2. Assess weather or not Girlschase's model fits into that objective reality.

Don't make the same mistake as me. It'll save you a lot of time and energy.

Case in point...maybe these guys you describe bring some other things to the table which Girlschase misses completely. Or maybe Girlschase is wrong about certain things and these guys are actually more attractive than the GC model would suggest. Or maybe there's more to it than just learning how to "game" girls.

Just think about it for a while
Does all of Girlschase fit reality? If not, maybe put a pin in the parts which don't and only accept the stuff which does

If you're interested in hearing more, feel free to send me a PM

 

[Fuck This]

The same reason you only see sick people in doctor's offices.

 

[lostnumber]

Clearly mating is possible without rigorous study of the social sciences. Humanity has been doing it for thousands of years, and very few people have put the time in to master the skills taught at GC.

But let me ask you, how many of these friends were routinely dating multiple girls and got to pick the one they liked the best? In likelihood many of them only ever dated one girl at a time, and they probably only had a handful of partners before they settled down. Some of them might be with the first girl they ever met in highschool!

I have plenty of friends that went this route, and they seem general happy with their lives. But I look at the women they ended up with and sometimes think "I wouldn't even sleep with that girl, much less marry her." Of course I would never say that to them; I am happy that they are happy, and sometimes their partners are fun interesting people even if they aren't topping the charts in the looks department.

Have you ever noticed how ugly people tend to end up with ugly people? And attractive people (especially men) almost always end up with attractive mates? And successful people tend to end up with other successful people. We could go on like this for a while. The saying "opposites attract" might be true when it comes to personalities, but its very much the opposite when it comes to the quality of your mate. Society has a way of matching like to like.

Here at GC, we know the secret that while the ugly man will never be a model, he CAN end up with a girl who is by improving himself and his skills. Thats a much better deal than he would get if he sat back and let society pair him up with a mate.

If you are a nice average guy and all you want is a nice average wife, you are very likely to succeed on your own. It will take effort, and work, and you will probably have to take it slow, and, but natural selection will run its course, and eventually you will find SOMEONE out there who wants to spend the rest of their life with you.

If you want to be able to attract girls in droves and have your pick of the litter, or move fast and sleep with women quickly while the average guy is going for a kiss on date number five, that is the advantage that learning this stuff will give you.

 

[Average]

John37,


Imagine that you're a girl and you live in a world where everybody is mediocre. You will then accept that mediocrity is the norm/standard and you'll then accept it. Girls are still in need of stuff like attention and sugar daddies. If the entire man race bores her she won't give them all up because there are still things she needs us for.

There is more than one way to cook a goose. And referring to my top statement, one can indeed get into a relationship. While doing everything wrong if the circumstances are favourable. You don't have to be the best in the world to get a girl. You just have to be the best in the room.

Unless you're trying to get any girl no matter who it is. Then it is inevitable that you get one if you keep talking to new people.

The only essentials to getting a girlfriend is:

1. Being able to get numbers and setting up dates.
2. Showing up to those dates
3. Actually being able to touch, kiss and bang her if that's what you want.

All other information is to make a man attractive and wiser as a whole.

 

[Seppuku]

John,

There is no contradiction. It is possible to get a nice girlfriend without any knowledge of seduction. And this is how the vast majority of people do. That's how I used to do, before I started learning this stuff.

However, consider these questions:
* How long does it take for an ordinary guy to get a nice girlfriend?
* How long does he stay single "in between" two girlfriends?
* How much is it actual mate choice vs. getting lucky?
* He gets in a relationship with her: how much is it because he wants to secure a safe access to regular sex, vs. because he actually wants to be in a relationship?
* Did he even choose the relationship? Or was it her?
* In fact, is he even aware of what was her actual motivations around him?
* If things start to go a little "off course" within the relationship (say, for instance, that she is making sex happening less and less frequently), how much does he stays with her by fear of becoming single - and potentially not having sex at all for years until the next lucky catch?
* Who is pulling the strings in the relationship? "Honey... it would be nice if we bought that flat we visited in town last week..."
* How much is he aware of the relationship dynamics?

The above is very serious. Guys tend to get in relationships because it's the easy and comfortable thing to do after months (years?) of celibacy. They enter the relationship with very little idea of the dynamics at play. Girls, on the other hand, are very good at grasping these things and know very much what they are doing.

Seduction knowledge gives you much more control. If you know that you can get a new girl within a week or a month, you do not have any haste to jump in a relationship with the first one who comes along. If you have been with 50+ women, you become much better at understanding the girl's motivations around you (hint: girls can be with you for many reasons, but not all of them are "good" reasons). You become much better to see the dynamics at play within the relationship. You can better see, and deflect, the manipulation attempts that go against your own interest (hint: attempts happening much more often that guys would admit).

Of course there is more to seduction than just raking up numbers. Understanding relationship dynamics, getting better relationships, and becoming a better judge of woman's characters, are among the reasons to study seduction. Ultimately, you get more control on your own life.

Having been at both end of the spectrum, I can tell you that I didn't fare very good at the above questions, in my prior years. I can really see, in hindsight, how it all played and unfolded with me. I believe I am in a better place now.

- By chance. Even when you do things not the right way, it can work out quite good if you are just lucky. A bad playing football team can win a match sometimes.

Probably the case for 80% of men, if you ask me.

What's written on this site does not apply to every woman in all cases, maybe there are moments women just want a partner and is more open to a man at that moment?

What is written here has to do with the inner psyche, hard wired in every woman. That's why it works so well, with women from all backgrounds and cultures and countries and age. All woman is going through alternate phases in her where she wants i) fast sexual intimacy with a sexy stranger, or ii) a long term partner that is going to bring her safety and secure her needs. Ideally, a woman would get a man such as i) then turn him into a man like ii) - but it is very difficult to achieve, because such a guy has so many options.

I would even go further. Consider a guy who "got lucky" with a new (nice) girlfriend. What is the likelihood it's because of the following: she was recently with a guy like i), tried to turn him into ii), failed, got frustrated, then decided to bounce on an "easy" guy like ii) that would at least provide her with a secure and safe relationship. Food for thought!

Seppuku
PS. About "happy couples": all couples try to look happy, from the outside. For the reality, just check the divorce rates.