Why do women only want 'The Dick'?

[Eric Cartman]

I think women only care about our dicks. They don't give a fuck about us as another human soul. All they care is an organ of our body, our dick.. I've know women love sex. They don't love us, its the sex they love. They love the pleasure they get from our dicks and several other parts of our bodies like hands and mouths. Other than that, they feel nothing else for us. That's it, we give they take. Women have other needs too, but for all of them including sex, they use us, men..For them, there is nothing called love, or whatever the word you wanna use for it.. Its only sex.

But then again why are we men so different? I honestly don't know about you guys, but I thought there was more to this, something more than sex. And it seems like I'm wrong. Maybe that's how it is, the way it's supposed to happen. I remember in one of Chase's articles he says, women always win, one way or another. They get whatever they want, but we don't. At least I didn't. Chase also mentioned, we men are the losers. I guess that's true. i feel like a fucking loser.

 

[Seppuku]

Hello Eric,

Yes, woman are very sexual in nature. Whatever they say, they're in here for the sex first, then to find a protector. Maybe because, at the end of the day, "love" is about perpetuating the species and protecting life.

One mistake men tend to make (I certainly used to) is to think of women as buddies with tits. You open up to them about your problems, discuss about serious matters, engage them into logical and educated discussions, then expect support, emotional and logical, from them. I am not being misogynistic here, and I know there are highly educated, intelligent women out there, and in a professional context this is certainly the thing to do.

But in the context of a couple, that's a mistake. You can't expect this sort of things inside a couple. They're not here for this. Women's role, inside the couple, is the creation and preservation of life. You need to talk about your problems? Open up to a good, male friend. For your woman, you are the boss, you're here to lead and direct her, not the other way around. I learned it the hard way. And many, many couples will continue to split until men get this.

This is the way women are. Much better to accept them as they are, and deal with it, rather than wishing they were otherwise, or worse, trying to change them. Better to accept and face the reality.

Now, men can be the losers, or the winners, depending. If you successfully apply the principles of seduction taught here, you will set yourself at the top of the sexual pyramid. This is the minority of men (15%?), that all women go chasing for. While the remaining other 85% are left running after whatever girls are left and willing to settle for second choice men. It sounds harsh, but it's the reality.

You don't have to be the loser!

Cheers,
Seppuku

 

[Smith]

Eric,

I think you're almost there to realize this simple truth...women won't make you happy. Women do love men, but don't expect women to make you happy at the end of the day. They will cut you off and "not love you anymore" if you become a depressed, butthurt value leach. Seek happiness from within yourself as Echart Tolle says.

 

[Drck]

"I think women only care about our dicks. They don't give a fuck about us as another human soul. All they care is an organ of our body, our dick.. I've know women love sex. They don't love us, its the sex they love. They love the pleasure they get from our dicks and several other parts of our bodies like hands and mouths. Other than that, they feel nothing else for us"

IMO there is lots of misconception about women... Women don't see men the same way men see women. We men are rather quite simple, we see hot girl and we can fall in love with her easily, as long as she smiles at us, shows some interest and stay around, most of us can fall in love with such girl with no problem... Who cares whether she has good education if she has nice tits? Who cares whether she is poor if she has sexy ass? Most men are rather less demanding, as long as she is good looking and not a slut...

Women are different, they are more complex and they consider many of things, they sort of consider more variables, for example:

* Can he love emotionally, or is he rather cold? Can he be gentle or is he rough? Does he want only sex or relationship?

* How does he fit into my family (especially Latino girls from good background and huge families)

* How faithful and loyal (religious values) is he? Many more conservative girls looking for LTR want loyal guy, and they will not sleep around

* What is his income and future potential, is he able to support me and my children? I want nice house and good life, why bother with guys who can't provide...?

* How social is he, how many good friends does he have, does he like to socialize? After all, I don't want to live with boring guy who only plays video games...

* Does he want children, and will he be a good dad? Can he take care of them, buy them nice things, keep them under safe roof, enable them good education? Does he care at all...??

* Can he have a good sex or is he done in 3 minutes? Many women can "read" men quite well, they know how experienced he is based on how he behaves... There are also many women that don't feel much sexual pleasure with that particular guy (but they stay with him because he has many other positive variables). Don't read it the wrong way: They enjoy sex, they want to have great sex, yet at the same time they don't really enjoy it with the guy they are currently with... That's why many married men don't get that much sex, they are great providers but rather boring in bed...

* Current mood, current age, current desire to look either for fuck boy or LTR guy...

... and who knows how many more variables...

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Women then sort of summarize and "grade" the guy on multiple levels based on the variables, for example:

* Hot, good looking and sexy guy, passing all sh*t test like a pro, thus no possibility of LTR as he is not a provider, and he is definitely not a family guy. He is definitely not faithful or loyal at all... Maybe quick sex, if she feels like to at the time she meets him... If not, let's at least keep him around for future possibilities or revenge times...

* Hot, good looking and sexy guy, and possibility of LTR because he is a provider and family type.. I'll give window to a quick sex just to see how he behaves, but most likely he will have to wait couple of weeks, if not months to show that I am not a slut that sleeps with every great guy that shows up in my life... He needs to show patience... He will also have pass couple of rougher sh*t tests, show patience and persistent interest, and then we will see...

* He is a great and sexy guy, I really like him, but he will just not fit into my family... I'll try it, we will see, but I already have many doubts...

* Average, good looking, hard working, yet sort of boring guy... Friend zone, back up plan guy... Let's keep him around for some time while searching for more exciting guy... Can consider in the future, can saddle down as he is sweet and not that bad...

* Sort of a good friend with possible good benefits. Let's see what will happen, who really cares...

* Religious guy (shift to category provider) and religion is important to both of us... Will consider (assuming that he is attractive enough and there are good vibes)...

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As you can see, there are many things that women consider, even subconsciously... Many women are quite smart, they can evaluate guy within first couple of minutes, sometimes even seconds, depending on what are they looking on at the moment... Many girls are also intuitive, they go with overall vibes and his social status, they decide within seconds what kind of guy he is, and if they are not sure or if he is not congruent - here comes a sh*t test...

That's why many guys have a great conversations with the girl they meet... She puts her number in his phone with excitement, she shows a great interest in him, but he will never see her again because he simply didn't "fit" into a picture of guy she has currently in her mind... Then the guy starts chasing her because he felt great vibes, calling her and texting her non-stop... which only proves to her that he is a very poor quality mate... Do not chase, and she MAY come back...

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So, if we understand the above and that there are lots of variables (vs they want only 'The Dick'), we can also design our own seduction style...

For example, we can create solid frame into which only girls that are interested fit, meaning girls that want only quick sex, e.g. The Dick... Let's call it Frame A. The other girls are then filtered out by default, e.g. you just sleep with girls that fit into this Frame A. Such frame is good if we are only interested in girls that will sleep with us within 1-3 dates, then simply move on because you are wasting your time... Such frame is commonly described here on GC...

We can also design another frame because we know that her variables and behavior towards the guy can change over time. Call it Frame B. If she likes you and considers you as a potential future mate, she WILL eventually change for you, she WILL adjust to you, and she WILL eventually sleep with you... But she will not sleep with you at this time...

That is why it is many times silly advice here on GC to tell guys to leave a girl that wouldn't sleep with you within 3 dates... The guy is really looking for (and behaving) as if he wanted LTR, yet he is using Frame A in stead of Frame B... She is also looking for LTR, she wants to eventually sleep with the guy but at the same time she wants to show (perhaps to herself) that she is not a slut who sleeps around with every exciting guy that shows up in her life... Some girls don't care, but for others it is quite important...

So the guy who meet such girl and sleep with her within 3 dates may be actually losing big time, because chances are that she will fall into auto-rejection as she cannot stand the idea that she slept so soon with a guy she considers a good mate (she will feel like a slut). He is looking for LTR, she is looking for LTR, he gets his quick and meaningless sex - and at the end there is no LTR...

In such cases it is much easier to use Frame B: Appear sexy, have the desire to have sex and be open to it, yet don't push too hard for sex for the first couple of dates. Just wait it out for couple of weeks, as in classical dating... She will then see you as a great and sexy guy, she will consider you for LTR more and more, she will adjust to your frame, and at the same time she doesn't have to fight her own slut shaming... Which for some girls may be BIG... All you have to do is to be patient and wait...

So be very careful as you will only get what you are asking for... Being a great and fast seducer may mean that you may not find that special LTR girl you are looking for... She will "read" your smoothness, she will read your quick attempts for sex, and she may then shift you to category of Fuck Boys - great, exciting, experienced, sexy and amazing - and that is exactly why he's not going to be LTR material... Again, nothing wrong with it - if that's what you want... In cases like this though, you may actually find out that a regular guy with no seduction skills and no experience at all is simply much better "fit" in her mind than you... Which can be very very frustrating...



As you can see, girls just don't want 'The Dick', they want the "Whole Package".... Girls are rather more complex than guys, more demanding, more carefull... They shop for the Highest Value Man that is available to her... In other words, girls are not stupid, many average girls are much smarter than average guys...

 

[mindful]

I like your post Drck. This is something I've been dealing with. I go for fast sex with girls but at the same time I would like a GF. I honestly lost a few girls I would have wanted as a GF but the fast sex / escalation ruined it. I've actually got a date tonight and still not sure if I will just have a quick hour date then be on our way or invite her back to my place.

Also, girls that are looking for a long-term relationship might have sex with you on the first date if you play your cards right but that still doesn't mean she will see you again. She might think you are looking for casual while you might actually want something more. I think it does depend on the girl. Also, fast sex at this point for me isn't a big deal. I could probably stretch it a few more dates with girls its clear that is the case... but it's not always clear is the problem.

 

[Seppuku]

Hey mindful,

I got into retention problems last year, I don't have them anymore. It gets better. It's about calibration, there's a certain right mix between Lover and Boyfriend vibe to maintain at all times - mostly Lover but maybe 15pct Boyfriend. I keep avoiding restaurants and cinema, even after we get together. I hold my frame, remain unpredictable, say No when necessary, and make sure to keep them well sexed every single time. But on the other hand I try to remain nice to them - not the lame nice guy thing - making sure they feel my attention. As long as you keep it sexual when you meet and don't meet too often, this won't be confused for a traditional BF role.

Now, what will help a lot is to bed them on second date - except of course if she's obviously excited and horny on the first date, in this case you *have* to conclude immediately. I'm 50 / 50 between first and two dates sex - my LR just right now is exception.

It is absolutely crucial to have the "sex on first date" skill down first - but it's probably already the case for you. Without this skill, it is difficult to get second dates consistently - that was my experience at least. The two dates template, ideally, is
1. You have a short first date in a cool place over drinks. Keep it short. Build excitement. Leave her wanting for more
2. You arrange a second date with plenty of time. Take her out on a brief drinks, one hour, max two. Then pull and escalate. Make sure of any time constraints before hand, because you need at least 3 to 4 hours to conclude.

There are much less retention problems on two dates model. But it's still possible to retain girls from the one date sex template - calibration, as explained above.

Cheers,
Seppuku

 

[Eric Cartman]

"Women have no sympathy... And my experience of women is almost as large as Europe. And it is so intimate too. Women crave for being loved, not for loving. They scream at you for sympathy all day long, they are incapable of giving you any in return for they cannot remember your affairs long enough to do so."

Florence Nightingale

 

[Eric Cartman]

Women CAN definitely fall in love.(for the right guy)

Slay

Are there such women in your life, Slay?

 

[Average]

I think women only care about our dicks.

What do you want them to want?

 

[trashKENNUT]

Purpose of Life.

Zac