Wingwoman

[Penguin]

When I used to out in public with my (now ex) girlfriend I noticed that a great number of women would show interest in me, whether it was approaching me in a nightclub or VERY obviously checking me out when walking past. Originally I credited this change to my improved fundamentals (slim fit suits, new hairstyle, more muscle) which I worked on during the relationship, but then I realised that women were especially interested in me if my girlfriend was there too. This is particularly true of top-tier 9/10 and 10/10 women.

The reason for this is that women take into account the mate choices of other women when choosing a mate for themselves. Psychologists have found that single women find men more attractive if they're in a relationship (and women in relationships prefer single men possibly because it's easier to cheat with them). It has also been found that men are given better attractiveness ratings by women if there is a woman smiling at the man in his photo.

In Chase's terms, being seen with an attractive/high value woman gives you social proof and implicit value. It can also create intrigue- "I wonder if that's his girlfriend?"

I was thinking that by taking out a wingwoman instead of a wingman to nightclubs, I could take advantage of this effect. My ex knows that I am trying to improve with women and will happily help out. The only problem is she might get jealous when other women start hitting on me . Has anyone ever tried taking a wingwoman along with them?

 

[almosteasy21]

I've done this for a while with my ex girlfriend as well. It does get me tons of attention as well but I have a mean case of AA and getting approached in that situation is probably not going to happen. If you can approach though I believe you could clean up. One other problem there is logistics though. Unless your ex is really cool which mine isn't then you're probably just going to get a phone number from her because your ex will be there alone if you two leave. Girls don't really take kindly to that lol.

 

[Jay]

Penguin,

I actually do this all the time. I have quite a few very attractive female friends, and sometimes I will roll out with one (or even a couple) of them and have them be all over me for the benefits (making sure its in a way that makes me look high value, not like the token gay friend). They also regularly tell their girlfriends that I'm a good guy and great in bed (which some of them actually know firsthand ). In return I'll tell them which dudes they don't know are douchebags to be avoided (which these dudes usually manage to make obvious themselves, so I don't feel like I'm betraying my gender too much), and which ones will do them right.

However I have never and would never use an ex for this personally, for the exact reason you stated up top. I'm not tryin' to ever deal with the jealousy debacle that would create, especially if this is an ex I have invested time into weaning off of me.

 

[Penguin]

Yeah that's a very good point Kinny. To solve that I would go with my ex on a night that her girl friends are also going. You said that getting approached is unlikely, but strangely I've found that getting approached is very common when I'm with her. AA really sucks but at least you can build up social momentum talking to your ex which could help you out.

Jay, that sounds awesome . I think it creates a way better impression than a group of men hanging out (why dont women want to be with them?). I'm going to try that recommendation thing as well as it's an easy way to give a good first impression.