You have to Not Be Afraid Because It's War

[trashKENNUT]

My observation across all spectrums.

Erm, you really should embrace that fear of society attacking you for picking up girls.

Of course, don't go be "creepy". As in like if she doesn't like you after 2-3 tries, there are other girls.

But I can't go back.

Because my society wasn't there for me to begin with. Everyone knows this feeling. Doesn't mean that they were not there at all.

I'm trying to point out that our society is going to hell.

I seen it with the young people I work with. I see female solipsism. I see how girlschase members here seems to lack nuance while I can quickly get it way more than others. Part of it is also because you never heed advice from Chase, that everything is fundamentals.

I cant go back. I don't have a home to begin with. My family sucks.

As in like we all have different belief systems. And I can respect that my family but most people are not.

I don't think I will win either way.

So might as well I fight. If I can make God/the leftism liberal, bleed. Then everyone stop believing in them.

But I realize that people are pathetic and can't let go.

And for you to see me say things like this, might seem that I am pathetic too for not being able to let go.

 

[Teevster]

I fail to understand this post.

The leftist-liberal wave is not necessarily good for society per.se., but liberal and marxist ideas are very in tune with the ideals of pick up. The ideals delivered on a macro-scale does not benefit most men as a whole (hence why men tend to vote for more conservative parties). But it surely benefits pick up guys.

This is because marxism and liberal ideals vouches for:
- Sexual liberalism
- Female independence (economic, hence they can allow themselves to be sexually liberated)
- A hatred toward capitalist virtues, which will be replaced by other virtues such as sexual market value (SMV).

So I fail to understand your analyses.

And no, nobody will respect the pick up artist/seducer.

This is something to keep in mind, and act upon. And the way you do that is to remain discreet.

Did you really expect this whole thing to be socially accepted, and do you REALLY desire it to be so?

I suggest you reflect over this twice

Best,

 

[trashKENNUT]

I never expect it to be respected.
I just want people to go out there and do whatever they want.

And that will bring friction.
Even if you are nice about it.
Be as honest about it as possible.

The best example is even here?

Suddenly I just turn the game, the argument on you.

I'm not asking my society for anything.
Maybe I am asking for people to live and let live.

To talk about "respect" in a world where we don't respect anything, in a sense,

That is quite funny.

But that's the world we have to uphold. Like advertising.

Otherwise, shit falls apart.

p.s:

People say that Westerners are too soft, too entitled and what have you. And then there's another half of you guys that says this "woke" people are complete idiots.

And then there's Asians whom Chase echoed that they are good liars.

They are. Opportunities rather than intent.

I'm from Asia. My family is Islam and there's the Asian culture bullshit.

Perhaps because you not in my mental state (beliefs, experiences and what have gou) and I am not in your mental state,

It is hard for me to convey why I think this way because it's super long form.

Accumulated experiences over time, seeing other people.

I don't think I can ever win. That is my point. It's rigged. So I might as well fight if I have to.

You kinda get my point? I'm not trying to say that go out there and peacocking that you pickup girls.

But we all live our own lives.

 

[Teevster]

I never expect it to be respected.

Good Because I do not want it to be respected. I want people to stay judgemental about it, else we end up having 2008 all over again with tons of weirdos in clubs everywhere which is what caused the serious backlash we are experimenting right now. This blacklash I am talking about is where ill-intended men go too far - and sadly those get more publicity since they happen to be PUA's - which has become a known phenomenon. If it wasn't these guys would just get locked in as any other molester, and would be punished rightly so. But now, his punishment have spillover effects on many other men. Pick up should not be mainstream. And additionally, would you like to have a bunch of other men being good with women? Hell no! who wants competition?

I just want people to go out there and do whatever they want.

Sure.

And that will bring friction.

What does that even mean.

Even if you are nice about it.

How does that relate to the above.

Be as honest about it as possible.

Not sure which context this relates to, but overall, I think you are wrong. Not saying you should be dishonest to people, but they do not need to know everything you do, and it is properly in place to hide and keep your mouth shit about what you do. Remember SECRET SOCIETY.

The best example is even here?

Where?

Suddenly I just turn the game, the argument on you.

Huum, I do not see any arguments at all here if I am honest.

I'm not asking my society for anything.

You do... see below....

Maybe I am asking for people to live and let live.

Most people will decline this. You know it, they are too obsessed with how others perceive them and how they need to perceive others. Humans are conformists and few people would like to "live and let live" if it breaks the social fabric or their own comfortable social reality.

But isn't to "live" and "let live" the liberal values you criticized?

It is.

And additionally... it relates back to my point - that liberal value such as "let live" - i.e. liberalism, whether in the form of economics, or sex, does not benefit all, in fact it creates heavy inequalities, hence why there will always be a fraction that will fight against them and protect non-liberal value. Hence the points I made earlier.

Again, is "let live" beneficial to a majority. The answer is most of the time: NO.

To talk about "respect" in a world where we don't respect anything, in a sense,

Respect is a wide term, which means nothing in itself- Respect from to whom? and towards what? in which context?

But that's the world we have to uphold. Like advertising.

What world?

Otherwise, shit falls apart.

Sure things falls apart if you do not uphold it. Truism.

People say that Westerners are too soft, too entitled and what have you. And then there's another half of you guys that says this "woke" people are complete idiots.

It depends on which phases of society these people find themselves in. The social, historical and cultural, as well as economic context shapes this behaviour on a macro level. Change any of these variables and they may turn "less soft". Put famine and civil war in england like they experienced in the 1600 th and we will see how soft englishmen will be.

And then there's Asians whom Chase echoed that they are good liars.

Some surely are.


But how is this, or the point above any relevant to the rest of this thread?

They are. Opportunities rather than intent.

What does that even mean?

I'm from Asia. My family is Islam and there's the Asian culture bullshit.

I see.

Perhaps because you not in my mental state (beliefs, experiences and what have gou) and I am not in your mental state,

Very likely. But I do not see why you are bringing this up here.

It is hard for me to convey why I think this way because it's super long form.

Try to convey in simple terms instead of using vague complicated terms, especially if english is not your first language.

1. Explain X subject.
2. Why X is X
3 More arguments...

Then you may introduce another aspect related to X subject... and proceed with the same methodology.


This is a pretty universal methodology for presenting opinions. Even in Islam! If you have read the Quran, their argumentation method is CLEAR and actually quite GOOD - even though I may not agree with it.

Accumulated experiences over time, seeing other people.

I don't think I can ever win. That is my point. It's rigged. So I might as well fight if I have to.

You lost me.

You kinda get my point? I'm not trying to say that go out there and peacocking that you pickup girls.

Not at all. I am not understanding much.

But we all live our own lives.

Sure.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Good Because I do not want it to be respected. I want people to stay judgemental about it, else we end up having 2008 all over again with tons of weirdos in clubs everywhere which is what caused the serious backlash we are experimenting right now. This blacklash I am talking about is where ill-intended men go too far - and sadly those get more publicity since they happen to be PUA's - which has become a known phenomenon. If it wasn't these guys would just get locked in as any other molester, and would be punished rightly so. But now, his punishment have spillover effects on many other men. Pick up should not be mainstream. And additionally, would you like to have a bunch of other men being good with women? Hell no! who wants competition?

Those weirdos was once, us. Maybe you were slightly better or whatever.

Let's not forget who we were? You can say now that you are different than me and what now, But i hope you don't do that.
Oh man, im going to sleep because it's 5 am here and i am doing my ads but let's elaborate abit.

I assume you blaming "ill intended" men for downfall of PUA.

I never had that need for winning mentality that way except that need for winning is more of showing off my skills. I am praising myself here because i don't think the world needs to be that way, ever since i was young.

But it is subjective and definition of winning is different for everyone.

What does that even mean.

It means that there will be disagreements, jealousy vibes. Like one Girlschase member recently notice once he level up.

How does that relate to the above.

I have been super cool about guys interrupting me with girls and i even let them have a run with girls, because Girlschase told me so. IT is actually rewarding bad behavior.

So fuck you Girlschase. You also lose me girls in the process thanks to that stupid advice on sharing girls when guys get angry. Anyway.... (You become an expert not by a system/$2000 course) But GC is one of the best out there.

But it is still a system, and it is business.

Not sure which context this relates to, but overall, I think you are wrong. Not saying you should be dishonest to people, but they do not need to know everything you do, and it is properly in place to hide and keep your mouth shit about what you do. Remember SECRET SOCIETY.

I think i write this wrongly. It's more to try and be normal about it. Honest is not the right word here. It's like keep it low profile and vague but also not lying.

Where?

I see what you did there. When i am trolling, i am trolling. When i write genuinely, i write genuinely. Of course, words can make you think that i am trolling when it is really me not being able to comprehend properly.

I'm able to separate business, advertising and reality. I am not sure if you can, really.

You do... see below....

I know. That's why i wrote 'maybe' at the bottom. Are you stupid or do you fail to recognize that this is one of the problems once you are rich/good with women/high level?

You fail to recognize this mental states that people are in, where the skill gap and mental gap between yours and theirs are not similar. Thus they can't register

Example:

People A: I have real problems.
Preacher: Pray to God.
People A: I still have a leaking pipe.
Preacher: Pray to God.

This is a pretty universal methodology for presenting opinions. Even in Islam! If you have read the Quran, their argumentation method is CLEAR and actually quite GOOD - even though I may not agree with it.

You mean just reading off the book from the internet, or just borrow the Quran and just read from start to finish?

HAHA! You serious?

I grew up with this people. The approach, the study and the book. Every stage itself, is not as simple as reading a book and that's it. You can see why middle east is fucked, if that makes sense.

Reading the Quran and based it just on itself the book is only one method of study. Don't make me laugh man. It's worse than a 4th dimensional chess. I don't think anyone knows what is real over there and i am pretty sure most religious people knows this themselves innately.

I know. I see this with my people who believe in religion all the time. In Asia, you see this shit. Why Garyvee indirectly note that Asia is kinda toxic.

What you mean by universal methodology for representing opinions? If it did exist, islam debaters won't overspeak western speakers in debates just as westerners don't need to always bomb middle east right?

There you go. i just open a can of worms.

Respect is a wide term, which means nothing in itself- Respect from to whom? and towards what? in which context?

Don't you realize that you shoot yourself in the head? then why do you care then about other people's opinions?

It's nothing in itself.

p.s: I was writing because i was really pissed and noted that i can never really win but since you nitpick my post and write it in a way that makes me look retarded.

 

[Knight Who Say NI]

Man, reading this stuff makes me glad to live in Brazil... Things are pretty bad here, and of course "third wave feminism" is promoted by mainstream media as a weapon of mass distraction to confuse the middle class, but the vast majority of the population doesn't know or care about this shit.

And besides, it seems like it is something that only makes sense in protestant countries, kind of a post-modern puritanism. But in Asia too? Didn't know that...

 

[trashKENNUT]

But in Asia too? Didn't know that..

Yea, you should see fathers here. Cowards.

I hate saying that because it's not so simple. But that's what it really is.