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I was thinking upon guys who asked and also feel that maybe you can close the girl on other dates, rather than the first date. and i believe that there are exceptions where a girl has known you for long and also the girl is forgiving and doesn't have many partners.

BUT THE THING IS,

Not every girl is forgiving. This is where almost every new beginners miss out. Not every girl is forgiving. You might think she's innocent. I have meet "innocent" girls too, and i have chances to close, and I DIDN't. and i lost a lot. So much for being "innocent" though. and maybe they are, but they are women, and they have needs too. I would not go on a nagging spree here, like investment problems with the girl later on and violating law of least effort. The most fundamental thing is you not oblige to follow advices anywhere in the world, even here. Personally I i have not seen Girlschase advocates that it is a "must" for you to follow any articles with high degree of accuracy.

As a Girlschase board member, I do feel the articles teaches you that "If you do this, you get this, and why if you don't do this, you get that, example auto-rejection, being creepy, no replies" I hope that it is important everyone knows they has the right to take their own advices, even my advices.

Zac
 

Jay

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Zac has a good point here actually.

While the advice you get on here, on Girlschase, and on other sites my be good, there is still no guarantee that if you follow the system to the tee you will get every girl you attempt it on, or that if you don't, you won't. The way I view Girlschase is as a large set of specific tools to choose from and hammer out your own unique style of game. You can read and read and read, and the more you do, the more options you have at your disposal, but the bottom line is that the only real way to develop your game is to go out and discover what techniques work for you in particular. There are a lot of external factors outside of knowing your shit that affect your success rate, and these vary by time of day, mood, looks and environment. Everyone is different, and while there are a lot of universal tips that can benefit everyone, some techniques could work for one guy and not for another.

Jay
 

Garrett

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Great post Zac, and good points Jay!

I think it's important for some of the beginner guys to read this post, as I went through an initial period of thinking this stuff works everytime. It's simple; look at your guy friends with girlfriends and see how they got them. Some of my guy friends, who don't have much going for them, are currently dating hot, sexy girls who cook for them, buy them stuff, and even dress them! It's crazy!

So it's important for guys to understand that this site is a very useful tool that helps guys get optimal results in general with girls. I can't remember where I read this, but apparently 1/10 girls you meet will like you for you. At the same time, for people like us, 1/10 just isn't cutting it. Of course you can't get 10/10 girls liking you, but if you can get your odds close to it by following the tips on this site, then that's just about as good as it gets! The guys who are lying on the couch, lazy, eating chips all day, that's fine; you may still get girls, and that's perfectly okay. Those same guys are okay with being average, no problem. For us, that's just not acceptable.

So yes, this website isn't designed for perfection, nor is anything else in life. As you guys have mentioned, you could have your fundamentals flawless, your game at it's peak, and could be pulling like crazy; however, there will always be some girls who you just can't get no matter what you do. With that being said, you shouldn't let that stop you from dating gorgeous, intelligent, sophisticated, desirable women.

I wish you all the best,
Garrett
 

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Nice Zac, you nailed it. I believe It is always important to know what will and will not work for you :) and tailor your skill to your unique traits.
 

trashKENNUT

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Hi Guys,

I think the biggest obstacle is often knowing ourselves. Honestly almost everyone in the world do not know what they want, and it's apparent if you really observe things. Chase has mention it, Michael Jordan mention it.

Donald Trump mention this in an interview that resonates with me clearly. "You have to be able to separate yourself. The fact is you need to separate yourself, from the pack, because the pack is a pack for a reason."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nif5DTHRnZo

Zac
 

Verisimilitude

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I like this post a lot Zac. Here's my biggest problem: I really have no idea who I AM. I'm like a chameleon and I'll change my personality based on the people around me. While it leads to a good first connection with people, I struggle meeting people on a deeper level. Any ideas on how to fix this?
 

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cccrunner,

cccrunner said:
I like this post a lot Zac. Here's my biggest problem: I really have no idea who I AM. I'm like a chameleon and I'll change my personality based on the people around me. While it leads to a good first connection with people, I struggle meeting people on a deeper level. Any ideas on how to fix this?

i still have this problem every now and then, and i am actually doing a lot of self reflecting and exploration since i was 15, getting better finding myself last year at least. I feel that it is a good thing to be a chameleon, where you can mix around and bring out the best in anybody. The problem here is when you putting in much effort onto people you are not really fond of or people who are not sharing the same interest or as passionate as you. Chase mention this with guys whom has abundance but not absolute abundance, where you can get girls but it isn't the kind of women you like. You can relate to that also.

You can always connect with people on a deeper level and i think your goal here is to get to know everyone, but you will all too often get exhausted if the friends or people you deepdive is all the people you would not want to get to know. So it is important to know what is that you like and what you want to pursue. It's cool having variety of friends and girls, but it will be a lot cooler if the variety of friends and girls are the people you really like. I suggest going out with all different people, try different foods, hobbies, different cultures, different places, just to expand your horizons. Then decide preferably what you like. Maybe you like hanging out with good looking guys and girls as an example, and you will do that. Just remember to always treat those whose not so good looking with warmth and spend more time with people you like more.

Zac
 

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That post felt like you were describing me pretty accurately. I have a lot of people I know, but not a lot of close friends. I don't really even like the people I hang out with right now, its just a convenience thing. I really think I need to push my limits and make more decisions, basically take control of my life. And maybe I'll find out who I am along the way. I agree with the girls thing too. I can meet girls, but I never seem to find ones I truly like or I find out I like them more later and by then it is too late.
 

trashKENNUT

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cccrunner said:
That post felt like you were describing me pretty accurately. I have a lot of people I know, but not a lot of close friends. I don't really even like the people I hang out with right now, its just a convenience thing. I really think I need to push my limits and make more decisions, basically take control of my life. And maybe I'll find out who I am along the way. I agree with the girls thing too. I can meet girls, but I never seem to find ones I truly like or I find out I like them more later and by then it is too late.

The convenience thing is cool. I am sure everyone does it, but a whole lot of people done it a lot because most of them do not go out and meet new people. I do it the convenience thing a lot, last time. But the thing with me is that i often will show disinterest on my face if things are getting boring with the people i hang out with, and somewhat i gauge better nowadays by giving the bored look or looking down and back at the person if the person is someone who is respected, like your boss or your parents, although your body language doesn't say he or she is respected! XD.

Anyway i would prefer better to have something i like and prefer and strive for it but guess it's not easy looking for people who are fun and passionate. I am looking for those people. :) so i will try and keep trying. You should look for what you want, too

You know it's funny the people who are cool and really good looking mix with themselves, i think likely they know inside because they have work themselves to believe they want to have the best

Zac
 
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