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Another ugly year was 2021 the trend continues were seduction is becoming in USA specifically very troublesome, so here is my review of the good, the bad and the ugly... For me is biz as usual, so this is not about skills, since when it comes to women i have no issues, i am on cruise control, this is about the state of men and seduction in general from someone actually there out every weekend. When i specifically talk about this i am talking about "consistency" referring to supply and demand of women out there on a regular basis vs special events for example... Crap 20 dudes per women at clubs or 100 dudes per women online, or day game ratios of 1 in 100 (i read something like this, horrible)
Some of the good:
- The fashion trends are really nice, we saw a shift towards sneakers, same with fitness, and improvements in science and hormones to help your fundamentals (looks and style).
- Following the above the women styles are really awesome the more nakedness' the better, with the booty shorts, the short dresses' and mini skrits, see through stuff etc... pretty much is acceptable to women to be practically naked out.....
- the fitness trend continues specially in usa were most women since young age, getting in shape and actually lifting, tons of breast and booties surguries, and the technology as i said improving so it looks real and well done in the majority were you could not even tell.... I banged a blonde that had fake books (i hate fake boobs, but i had no idea they were fake till i did some type of weird complement in which i was trying to say how nice the boobs were they had to cost a lot in plastic surgury, fuck my life, i was expecting to say "no they are actually real" but they were fake as she confessed....
- Getting shape and making money was very easy last year, in USA after 2010 most "men" type jobs involving housing and construction and other "men" type sectors jobs that dissapear with the housing collapse that took the economy to total shit... Came back times 50 in USA, making most of us money one way or another.... It was also a really good job market with a lot of demand for jobs and increase in wages, since nobody wants to work.... Also the improvements in technology, surgery, hormones, information help the cause....
- Seducers with game when they met a girl, got more attraction times a million than ever along with power (i will put this as a good but is a weird good).... In other words if you are good with women(which is a really really small minority).... When you hooked a girl she would get 0 to 100 type attraction... (good for a super minority but bad for everyone else, i will explain later in the cons).
- We saw a really bump more than other years of women out in the major holidays and events (i think this had something to do with corona but not sure).
- Physical game is really back, is also almost more important now a days than verbals (a change in trends). But this is my opinion, there was a point i was doing more verbals that cause lays vs physical now it has reverse (this is just my observation i may be wrong, i wonder if is because is less guys touching now a days?)
Some of the bad:
- The pua industry is becoming total shit, you have horrible teachers boarderline justin wayne lights, bad role models that make seduction look bad (lay count obsession for example vs meet to lay ratios, personal goals etc...)
- We saw a small niche of seducer fighting with other seducers which totally undermines the seduction community as a whole i called this posturing. I even saw people couple of weeks back shitting on torero making hours tribute to torero facepalm...
- since the sexual market place is total crap, we saw how we had a massive exodus of problem oriented solutions (seduction community) to delay communities, red pill once you are in shape, you money is right, and you are the best of yourself THEN women get a memo now they will chase you, crap.... Or give up don't try community since is all about looks (black pill) or lets way till the sexual market place levels (men go their own way)... Total shit crap, vs guys grinding it out with seduction which in turn is one of the reasons guys out there got 0 game even with good fundamentals, so helping the guys with actual game get that 0 to 100 attraction i talk about....
- Following the above since the sexual market place is total shit, most guys are not getting the same level of reference experiences with women, sexual experience, real live women understanding and relationships that we got to enjoy in a bit more favorable market place. This works in our favor since the guys good with women had 1000s of successful reference field experience, relationship, women dynamics etc... this translate in the seduction which is not fair at all to other dudes that even if they try won't be able to compete.
- The player is a dying breed... I see the "naturals" that were really good couple of years back, not even coming out, locking in women, or just disappearing
- The pua industry has teachers that were really good coming back to the industry some for validation, some for money that are kjing cause is clearly they are not there on the field, making a fool of themselves which is sad... Cause at one point this guys were actually legit.... other putting out total shit content that does not work now a days or does not even apply to USA.
- following the above we have a lot of pua teachers that smartly got the fuck out of usa/England to a more favorable sexual market places such as Colombia, Brazil, Easten Europe, Thailand, Mexico.... good for them, but a lot of the stuff they teach will be hard to relate to usa (though is a minor thing, and most methods work everywhere is just the usa market place has become total crap).
- The street urgies total post corona "Sodom and Gomorrah" and women having to "go back to work in real jobs vs only fans/ticktok" prediction of the red pillers, never happened on the contrary.... Corona, still around and those predictions never happened nor are they going to happen, another one of their virgins crap theories.
- Again the numbers meet to lay ratios have gone to total shit from all type of cold approach (i don't care what joe blow guru said, what i say is the bible take it to the bank, I am out there every weekend i see what is going on, i will give you some actual solutions later)...
- The fucking horrible tatoo ink trend on women is getting worst, horrible disgusting shit in usa, actually hot women looking like shit with tatoos...
- In this market place the maiting market is becoming crazy, you need to have fundamentals, know how to do a to z aspects of seduction, from opening to close almost flawlessly which is again a problem with guys that even though they are trying, learning, grinding, they are not getting those many dick in pussy experiences over than over that help developing into an actual gamer... This mating process was not like this back in the days even if you approach you could have a shot of success with women just by the natural mating process (i know this sounds like mental masturbation but I knew a lot of guys that did not know what they were doing with girlfriends now a days, good luck with this)....
- The obisity epidemic specially in usa is becomming beyond horrible (i am not talking about thick women, with fat tits and asses, which i luv, i am talking fat as in fat roles), not only the sexual market place is shrinking we got obesette, tatoos etc... to deal with....
- A lot of gurus are actually paying for sex in different ways which is pathetic either rent for pussy, or salt daddy or some other pussy for money transaction or q pro puo transaction for me this is pathetic... (and people ignore this like nothing)
- soical justice culture i did not believe in is a problem. I have 0 doubt in my mind that this is why Tom Torrero end it (i don't think it was financial)... I was in a hormone forum, i ask if i can transmit hormones (tesoterone) to women when i ejaculate, cause i notice change in her behavior out of the blue.... I got totally humiliated, boarderline called a rapist, got kicked out of the group etc... by women and men including moderators (i was like wholly fuck we are in deep shit! Not exagerating here).
- Clubs and night venues gone to shit..- All bottle services, is design to total separate "bottle service" with "general population" what this is causing a death in my opinion of the larger clubs i used to recommend due to volume, this is pointless now again multiple clubs is better.....
- you are competing with so many men that is bad for women and in some cases cause analysis paralysis on their part that is...(this is worst on online dating)
- Social media is also fucking up women and causing reality distortions in them...
Here are some solutions:
- Keep grinding is my solution number 1 you can still get laid and lot, but you need to be consistent, find a day or 2 preferably no less than 2 to CONSTANTLY SARGE, the excuse of work, running biz etc... is just excuses i am sure you can find some type to consistant sarge i have done and cont. doing it for more than 20 years... (again getting rid of drugs and alcohol help with this)
- Cross game and when you cross game, cross game on the cross game (sounds like a rap).- You need preferably to combine all games, an ideal situation in my opinion is going about your day day game, online when you are in the toilet or waiting in line, night game once or twice a week. But lets say you day game you need to constantly go to different malls or parks or ____ fill in the blank to see how target rich they are... On online at least 4 apps, online is not tinder for fuck sake, tinder is actually in my opinion the worst. IN night game as i have been saying minimum, specially now 3 venues, close to each other walking distance, go out different nights to see the best night aka women actually comming out in your city.
- If you don't have a follow up method (for me texting) good luck getting laid all the time with ons, ons are becoming harder and harder, dtf not comming out (again i can care less what joe blow guru said, field test for yourself nd i am not talking halloween or _____ special event when women came out)...
- move out of usa to a more fucking normal sexual market place, usa is just getting ridiculous.
- move from a major city for example Miami, to a more favorable sexual market place for example WEst palm (hotter women than Miami and Broward, less competition). In other words move from a major city Miami, to a second or 3 type city (palm beach in my case 3rd type city in south Florida)... This may have also draw backs cause less quantity but more quality, but less male competition. ( I am not competin with professional sports players for example).
- Lock in a girl/girls even if an ok girl vs personal 10 keep her or help her with fixer upper game. While you improve and hunt (i already explain how to do both in different articles). This is hard to do though without the experience.
- improve logistic live walking distance from clubs/day game etc...or get a ban like jeffy shit
- This is a GEM I DISCOVERED.- For some reason Latin type clubs have not been affected as much by the trends. IN Latin clubs (i don't really like them but) it seems they are stuck in 2010, lol, in other words women are out there, you can find dtfs, etc... it seems latin only clubs, have not change and gotten better cause of the popularity or reggatton which promotes sexual escalation and lack of courtship the 2 problems i always had with latin clubs... This is something i will explore more since that was never my target club, but i seen this.
- I can't believe i am going to advice this but, clubs that allow under 21 with wrist bands, again in those clubs stuck in 2010, i assume cause since they are letting under 21 in you have decent ratios.
- pre doing online, make sure your pictures, profile etc... super on point and pay for services for example tinder gold... Cause if you do it wrong from day one the algorithem will destroy you for good....
- Fundamentals have to be on point all the time (i recently gain a bit of weight on the winter, right away i am going crazy on full time get back in shape mode) i don't want to fuck around with this market place.
Anyways guys you can share or disagree or whatever, i am always open to discussion...I just feel bad for newer generations they have the info. and tools (with all the stuff available) but horrible sexual market place...
- Avoid social media and social media type seduction.
Some of the good:
- The fashion trends are really nice, we saw a shift towards sneakers, same with fitness, and improvements in science and hormones to help your fundamentals (looks and style).
- Following the above the women styles are really awesome the more nakedness' the better, with the booty shorts, the short dresses' and mini skrits, see through stuff etc... pretty much is acceptable to women to be practically naked out.....
- the fitness trend continues specially in usa were most women since young age, getting in shape and actually lifting, tons of breast and booties surguries, and the technology as i said improving so it looks real and well done in the majority were you could not even tell.... I banged a blonde that had fake books (i hate fake boobs, but i had no idea they were fake till i did some type of weird complement in which i was trying to say how nice the boobs were they had to cost a lot in plastic surgury, fuck my life, i was expecting to say "no they are actually real" but they were fake as she confessed....
- Getting shape and making money was very easy last year, in USA after 2010 most "men" type jobs involving housing and construction and other "men" type sectors jobs that dissapear with the housing collapse that took the economy to total shit... Came back times 50 in USA, making most of us money one way or another.... It was also a really good job market with a lot of demand for jobs and increase in wages, since nobody wants to work.... Also the improvements in technology, surgery, hormones, information help the cause....
- Seducers with game when they met a girl, got more attraction times a million than ever along with power (i will put this as a good but is a weird good).... In other words if you are good with women(which is a really really small minority).... When you hooked a girl she would get 0 to 100 type attraction... (good for a super minority but bad for everyone else, i will explain later in the cons).
- We saw a really bump more than other years of women out in the major holidays and events (i think this had something to do with corona but not sure).
- Physical game is really back, is also almost more important now a days than verbals (a change in trends). But this is my opinion, there was a point i was doing more verbals that cause lays vs physical now it has reverse (this is just my observation i may be wrong, i wonder if is because is less guys touching now a days?)
Some of the bad:
- The pua industry is becoming total shit, you have horrible teachers boarderline justin wayne lights, bad role models that make seduction look bad (lay count obsession for example vs meet to lay ratios, personal goals etc...)
- We saw a small niche of seducer fighting with other seducers which totally undermines the seduction community as a whole i called this posturing. I even saw people couple of weeks back shitting on torero making hours tribute to torero facepalm...
- since the sexual market place is total crap, we saw how we had a massive exodus of problem oriented solutions (seduction community) to delay communities, red pill once you are in shape, you money is right, and you are the best of yourself THEN women get a memo now they will chase you, crap.... Or give up don't try community since is all about looks (black pill) or lets way till the sexual market place levels (men go their own way)... Total shit crap, vs guys grinding it out with seduction which in turn is one of the reasons guys out there got 0 game even with good fundamentals, so helping the guys with actual game get that 0 to 100 attraction i talk about....
- Following the above since the sexual market place is total shit, most guys are not getting the same level of reference experiences with women, sexual experience, real live women understanding and relationships that we got to enjoy in a bit more favorable market place. This works in our favor since the guys good with women had 1000s of successful reference field experience, relationship, women dynamics etc... this translate in the seduction which is not fair at all to other dudes that even if they try won't be able to compete.
- The player is a dying breed... I see the "naturals" that were really good couple of years back, not even coming out, locking in women, or just disappearing
- The pua industry has teachers that were really good coming back to the industry some for validation, some for money that are kjing cause is clearly they are not there on the field, making a fool of themselves which is sad... Cause at one point this guys were actually legit.... other putting out total shit content that does not work now a days or does not even apply to USA.
- following the above we have a lot of pua teachers that smartly got the fuck out of usa/England to a more favorable sexual market places such as Colombia, Brazil, Easten Europe, Thailand, Mexico.... good for them, but a lot of the stuff they teach will be hard to relate to usa (though is a minor thing, and most methods work everywhere is just the usa market place has become total crap).
- The street urgies total post corona "Sodom and Gomorrah" and women having to "go back to work in real jobs vs only fans/ticktok" prediction of the red pillers, never happened on the contrary.... Corona, still around and those predictions never happened nor are they going to happen, another one of their virgins crap theories.
- Again the numbers meet to lay ratios have gone to total shit from all type of cold approach (i don't care what joe blow guru said, what i say is the bible take it to the bank, I am out there every weekend i see what is going on, i will give you some actual solutions later)...
- The fucking horrible tatoo ink trend on women is getting worst, horrible disgusting shit in usa, actually hot women looking like shit with tatoos...
- In this market place the maiting market is becoming crazy, you need to have fundamentals, know how to do a to z aspects of seduction, from opening to close almost flawlessly which is again a problem with guys that even though they are trying, learning, grinding, they are not getting those many dick in pussy experiences over than over that help developing into an actual gamer... This mating process was not like this back in the days even if you approach you could have a shot of success with women just by the natural mating process (i know this sounds like mental masturbation but I knew a lot of guys that did not know what they were doing with girlfriends now a days, good luck with this)....
- The obisity epidemic specially in usa is becomming beyond horrible (i am not talking about thick women, with fat tits and asses, which i luv, i am talking fat as in fat roles), not only the sexual market place is shrinking we got obesette, tatoos etc... to deal with....
- A lot of gurus are actually paying for sex in different ways which is pathetic either rent for pussy, or salt daddy or some other pussy for money transaction or q pro puo transaction for me this is pathetic... (and people ignore this like nothing)
- soical justice culture i did not believe in is a problem. I have 0 doubt in my mind that this is why Tom Torrero end it (i don't think it was financial)... I was in a hormone forum, i ask if i can transmit hormones (tesoterone) to women when i ejaculate, cause i notice change in her behavior out of the blue.... I got totally humiliated, boarderline called a rapist, got kicked out of the group etc... by women and men including moderators (i was like wholly fuck we are in deep shit! Not exagerating here).
- Clubs and night venues gone to shit..- All bottle services, is design to total separate "bottle service" with "general population" what this is causing a death in my opinion of the larger clubs i used to recommend due to volume, this is pointless now again multiple clubs is better.....
- you are competing with so many men that is bad for women and in some cases cause analysis paralysis on their part that is...(this is worst on online dating)
- Social media is also fucking up women and causing reality distortions in them...
Here are some solutions:
- Keep grinding is my solution number 1 you can still get laid and lot, but you need to be consistent, find a day or 2 preferably no less than 2 to CONSTANTLY SARGE, the excuse of work, running biz etc... is just excuses i am sure you can find some type to consistant sarge i have done and cont. doing it for more than 20 years... (again getting rid of drugs and alcohol help with this)
- Cross game and when you cross game, cross game on the cross game (sounds like a rap).- You need preferably to combine all games, an ideal situation in my opinion is going about your day day game, online when you are in the toilet or waiting in line, night game once or twice a week. But lets say you day game you need to constantly go to different malls or parks or ____ fill in the blank to see how target rich they are... On online at least 4 apps, online is not tinder for fuck sake, tinder is actually in my opinion the worst. IN night game as i have been saying minimum, specially now 3 venues, close to each other walking distance, go out different nights to see the best night aka women actually comming out in your city.
- If you don't have a follow up method (for me texting) good luck getting laid all the time with ons, ons are becoming harder and harder, dtf not comming out (again i can care less what joe blow guru said, field test for yourself nd i am not talking halloween or _____ special event when women came out)...
- move out of usa to a more fucking normal sexual market place, usa is just getting ridiculous.
- move from a major city for example Miami, to a more favorable sexual market place for example WEst palm (hotter women than Miami and Broward, less competition). In other words move from a major city Miami, to a second or 3 type city (palm beach in my case 3rd type city in south Florida)... This may have also draw backs cause less quantity but more quality, but less male competition. ( I am not competin with professional sports players for example).
- Lock in a girl/girls even if an ok girl vs personal 10 keep her or help her with fixer upper game. While you improve and hunt (i already explain how to do both in different articles). This is hard to do though without the experience.
- improve logistic live walking distance from clubs/day game etc...or get a ban like jeffy shit
- This is a GEM I DISCOVERED.- For some reason Latin type clubs have not been affected as much by the trends. IN Latin clubs (i don't really like them but) it seems they are stuck in 2010, lol, in other words women are out there, you can find dtfs, etc... it seems latin only clubs, have not change and gotten better cause of the popularity or reggatton which promotes sexual escalation and lack of courtship the 2 problems i always had with latin clubs... This is something i will explore more since that was never my target club, but i seen this.
- I can't believe i am going to advice this but, clubs that allow under 21 with wrist bands, again in those clubs stuck in 2010, i assume cause since they are letting under 21 in you have decent ratios.
- pre doing online, make sure your pictures, profile etc... super on point and pay for services for example tinder gold... Cause if you do it wrong from day one the algorithem will destroy you for good....
- Fundamentals have to be on point all the time (i recently gain a bit of weight on the winter, right away i am going crazy on full time get back in shape mode) i don't want to fuck around with this market place.
Anyways guys you can share or disagree or whatever, i am always open to discussion...I just feel bad for newer generations they have the info. and tools (with all the stuff available) but horrible sexual market place...
- Avoid social media and social media type seduction.
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