45% of men age 18-25 have never approached a woman

[Bill]

Risk Aversion and Dating - Date Psychology

What role does aversion of risk have in keeping young men single?

datepsychology.com

A sizeable minority of men are not approaching women at all. In the entire dataset, 29% of men said they never approached a woman in person before. 27% said it had been more than one year. This was larger for men in the age 18-25 group: 45% had never approached a woman in person.

Gen Z seems to be very averse to social situations. I wonder what will happen when a huge portion of men grow up with no experience / abundance, giving those willing to take risks a much bigger advantage. This will probably accelerate women‘s complaints about being played as well.

This might also cause a comeback for PUA popularity, if less people are approaching it’ll be more effective.

 

[Conquistador]

Risk Aversion and Dating - Date Psychology

What role does aversion of risk have in keeping young men single?

datepsychology.com

Gen Z seems to be very averse to social situations. I wonder what will happen when a huge portion of men grow up with no experience / abundance, giving those willing to take risks a much bigger advantage. This will probably accelerate women‘s complaints about being played as well.

This might also cause a comeback for PUA popularity, if less people are approaching it’ll be more effective.

Damn

I feel bad for them

Definitely agree. IME If girls aren’t interested they’re always very polite about it, and they like being approached in general.

 

[HoofHearted]

Looks about the same to me.

Most men not doing a lot.

Some men struggling/learning.

Select group reaping asymmetrical rewards.

 

[TomInHo]

Gen Z seems to be very averse to social situations. I wonder what will happen when a huge portion of men grow up with no experience / abundance, giving those willing to take risks a much bigger advantage. This will probably accelerate women‘s complaints about being played as well.

This might also cause a comeback for PUA popularity, if less people are approaching it’ll be more effective.

I don't think much has changed really. I remember when I was younger (fuck i'm getting old) many guys weren't approaching back then either.

Women have always complained about being played and men that took more risks always had an advantage

A sizeable minority of men are not approaching women at all. In the entire dataset, 29% of men said they never approached a woman in person before. 27% said it had been more than one year. This was larger for men in the age 18-25 group: 45% had never approached a woman in person.

Also have to take this information with a grain of salt. Because most guys do not meet their spouses through approach. It's very common that they meet through social circles and friends, so they kind of bump into each other organically.

Plus with the growing popularity of online dating men can never approach and still get laid. Main point is that stuff is kind of interesting but doesn't really matter in the big picture if you're the kind of guy that takes initiative.

 

[Chase]

Nice find.

I wonder what the numbers were for men in past decades?

Without those it's still anecdotal when trying to compare to the past.

It definitely seemed more common, and even more socially accepted, to me for men to approach women they did not know in the 2000s and 2010s. At least in the big cities. It seems like since then there's been some push-back on male approaching. Just as part of the general "Men should be seen and not heard!" thing (man-spreading, man-splaining, street harassment, etc.) pushed by an irate vocal minority.

Back in the 1990s and 2000s we even had a bunch movies coming out on guys going out and picking up chicks. Magnolia, The Tao of Steve, Alfie, Hitch, The Wedding Crashers, probably a bunch of others I'm forgetting. I don't think they're making too many movies like those now.

But it definitely was always the case too that most men rarely or never approached women. Even if a girl was staring at a guy all night in a party, unless someone introduced them there are plenty of guys even back then who would never make a move.

Chase

 

[Skills]

Risk Aversion and Dating - Date Psychology

What role does aversion of risk have in keeping young men single?

datepsychology.com

Gen Z seems to be very averse to social situations. I wonder what will happen when a huge portion of men grow up with no experience / abundance, giving those willing to take risks a much bigger advantage. This will probably accelerate women‘s complaints about being played as well.

This might also cause a comeback for PUA popularity, if less people are approaching it’ll be more effective.

I personally don't see this in the field, Gen z couple of years ago YES, now the last 2 years post corona i would say very social....

Is better to go by the field vs reports tbh.... Obviously with the online apps and stuff have to be also factor in due to increase popularity... but again at least in night game gen z pretty social post corona....

 

[cocogi]

@Chase I think it could also be that, in general, there used to be very easy, natural, ways to approach - to chat with women, even if it was not meant as an approach -
I heard an old man saying "we could fall in love by asking for directions":

asking for directions, asking the time... all normal things that could lead to a conversation and something more - while right now most people would think "just look at your smartphone".

Society in general has much less offline interactions.
Back then, you used to go shopping in person, asking the clerks, ordering pizzas on the places and waiting in line, paying for the parking to an actual person, hitchiking... and so on.

 

[Police dog]

The title is misleading. The article talks about in Person approaches. Plenty of relationships in high school/college/hell even workplace begin with mostly phone messaging without much in person interaction. And it’s already been the case when I was in hs 8 years ago. Like, you like couple of her photos and send a text, boom. If you are not complete strangers which is rarely the case in hs/smaller colleges where everyone know each other, you have a shot. That’s literally how my first 2 relationships started. It doesn’t mean people don’t approach.

 

[ElderPrice]

The birthrate decline will continue.

https://www.girlschase.com/article/social-life/mouse-utopia-are-we-living-human-version

 

[SteelbookCollector]

well even if this trend continues, i highly doubt it will change the state of affairs have that have been in place for all-time, as in, i highly doubt it will cause women to start approaching guys or women to be the ones to initiate a relationship with a guy, i highly doubt it.