A girl bringing a friend to the first 'meetup'?

[Skills]

So we all ended up hanging out. The friend was acting like a mother hen and scoping me out. It seemed like the girl I was going for was just being shy. We all ended up having a great time. We should be set to meet 1 on 1 soon.

One thing I'm learning is to pretty much go out and experience things yourself. Ignoring what most of what people say or being very skeptical and to go through it myself is the best teacher. Learning to spot what's just noise and what's actually a solid advice is a skillset itself.

So then, why write the post asking for advice??? And waste every ones time.... everything that I told you was going to happened, happened....

 

[Skills]

Cool dude, hope it works out!



A lot of guys on here are coming from a certain perspective. And like most people, they think their perspective is the best. And outside of ego and connection, they post here to help you be successful, coming from their perspective.

But you have to realize a lot of guys are "meet to sex in as short of a time as possible and move on to the next" type of guys. Or they're looking for bisexual women (a lot of the guys teaching this stuff end up in open marriages or some shit) or they're about the drinking and drugs, party lifestyle and want girls who do that as well, or whatever... that's typically what PUA communities attract, ime... which isn't for everyone. I don't drink or smoke (or party) but 90% of the PUAs I've met in my life are big partiers.

I don't know you but let's say you meet a girl, you date her for 3 months before sleeping with her, you decide she's the right woman for you, and you end up getting married, raising a family, and living happily ever after... there's nothing wrong with that at all, if that's what works for you.

But if you were taking advice from this forum, there might be a bunch of guys who discourage you from spending so much time with a girl like that because they're concerned that you'll get tooled, taken advantage of, you're over valuing someone, or that you're wasting your time with something that will never happen, and rightly so... especially seeing their values, life experience, perspectives, and goals for dating.

There are a lot of guys with some great wisdom on here but you always have to see people as guides, not someone with all the answers. And they (we) only have our own perspectives, out of many that might help serve you through this area of life. And some of the things people say could actually limit you in some ways since your goals might be different. But hopefully, a lot of it will accelerate your growth towards being the man you want to be with the types of women (or woman) that you want to have in your life.

Good luck man! I hope this turns into something you want!

Interesting the guys I met in the community and in person including myself are nothing like what you described above.... I have been going 2 clubs for ever never have gotten drunk or touched a drug

 

[DaVinciMatrixStyle]

So then, why write the post asking for advice??? And waste every ones time.... everything that I told you was going to happened, happened....

It's funny that you took offense to that. I actually read your reply and definitely took something away from it when you said seduction is all about creating favorable odds for yourself. So that didn't apply to you obviously. And I also believe in putting myself in challenging situations, so I did that as well.

As far as people saying go for a threesome, that wasn't my goal at all. So that was off topic. That's a topic to be talked about when I get far advanced in the game if I even want that.

 

[Skills]

H, It's funny that you took offense to that. I actually read your reply and definitely took something away from it when you said seduction is all about creating favorable odds for yourself. So that didn't apply to you obviously. And I also believe in putting myself in challenging situations, so I did that as well.

As far as people saying go for a threesome, that wasn't my goal at all. So that was off topic. That's a topic to be talked about when I get far advanced in the game if I even want that.

Oh, I see the 3 some angle, totally agree my apologies...my bad

 

[Will_V]

I would worry about getting a first text back before giving advice about where my chickens hatch if you want me to take you serious. No disrespect ofc. Hope it all goes well for you as well!

No need for the passive aggressive comments buddy, I meant no disrespect either a forum is a place where people give opinions, mine is just my own and you don't need to react if it doesn't seem to apply.

 

[DaVinciMatrixStyle]

No need for the passive aggressive comments buddy, I meant no disrespect either a forum is a place where people give opinions, mine is just my own and you don't need to react if it doesn't seem to apply.

There's 0 passive aggression, sorry if it came off like that buddy . And as I said, yes a forum is a place where people give opinions. Therefore, if you wanna take time to give an opinion and want me to take it seriously so it's productive, I would work on yourself first. If not, no worries keep on posting, I'll just glance over em. At the end of the day, do whatever you wanna do.

 

[Vision]

Interesting the guys I met in the community and in person including myself are nothing like what you described above.... I have been going 2 clubs for ever never have gotten drunk or touched a drug

Cool man, good on you! We definitely have different experiences of the community then! Honestly, I don't think there's anything wrong with either path... but it's something to be aware of. Guys who usually do a lot of drug use won't reveal it to people if they don't think they're on the same page, or at least neutral about it, ime.

 

[DaVinciMatrixStyle]

A final status update: We ended up meeting near my place at a coffee shop. We talked and eventually brought her home. She seemed a lot less reserved this time and more happy to be there.

There was a bit of LMR and all that good stuff, but I took my time and ended up going at it a few rounds. Thanks to everyone that put up great replies for me. This was a great experience. If I were to be put in this situation again, I would 100% have a friend come and treat it as an opportunity to win her friend over. It makes it that much likely that the girl I'm going for wants to meet me even more.

 

[DaVinciMatrixStyle]

Cool man, good on you! We definitely have different experiences of the community then! Honestly, I don't think there's anything wrong with either path... but it's something to be aware of. Guys who usually do a lot of drug use won't reveal it to people if they don't think they're on the same page, or at least neutral about it, ime.

Your reply definitely had some value for me as I had similar experiences with most guys in the PUA community. It was all about getting quick sex and moving onto the next which is different from what I'm aiming for.

At the end of the day, everyone has different paths to walk and I'm here to filter out whatever is relevant to me.

Thanks for pitching in with your inputs!

 

[Will_V]

A final status update: We ended up meeting near my place at a coffee shop. We talked and eventually brought her home. She seemed a lot less reserved this time and more happy to be there.

There was a bit of LMR and all that good stuff, but I took my time and ended up going at it a few rounds. Thanks to everyone that put up great replies for me. This was a great experience. If I were to be put in this situation again, I would 100% have a friend come and treat it as an opportunity to win her friend over. It makes it that much likely that the girl I'm going for wants to meet me even more.

Glad to hear it worked out! Sorry if my comments seemed out of place, I have had my range of successes and failures that shape my opinions, and I don't guarantee that they are going to be useful to everyone. That's why it's good to get a variety of feedback so you can build up your own set of principles that work for you.

 

[Skills]

A final status update: We ended up meeting near my place at a coffee shop. We talked and eventually brought her home. She seemed a lot less reserved this time and more happy to be there.

There was a bit of LMR and all that good stuff, but I took my time and ended up going at it a few rounds. Thanks to everyone that put up great replies for me. This was a great experience. If I were to be put in this situation again, I would 100% have a friend come and treat it as an opportunity to win her friend over. It makes it that much likely that the girl I'm going for wants to meet me even more.

^ again pick up is a game of ODDS, what actions create higher % of winning based on FIELD TESTING AND PATTERNS, it is way lower odds to get a girl when they bring the friend over cause it creates additional wild card, and it easier to win over 1 girl vs 2 girls or groups (a reason why a lot of dudes don't do for example night game).... Also even if the dude is looking for a wife the reason we favor sleeping with a girl fast is not due to fuck and dump move to the next girl, it is cause it makes things way easier, sex=highest investment and now a days you need in my opinion 3 fucks for the women to even invest.... No offense, i personally seen posters ask for advise, refute advise given, when they refute, they realize they were actually wrong, and create some bogus lay report, "met girl, took her home, asd, but we gang a lot".. I am not totally saying that this happened here... But i have seen this over and over and over... Hopefully with you this is not the case....

 

[DaVinciMatrixStyle]

^ again pick up is a game of ODDS, what actions create higher % of winning based on FIELD TESTING AND PATTERNS, it is way lower odds to get a girl when they bring the friend over cause it creates additional wild card, and it easier to win over 1 girl vs 2 girls or groups (a reason why a lot of dudes don't do for example night game).... Also even if the dude is looking for a wife the reason we favor sleeping with a girl fast is not due to fuck and dump move to the next girl, it is cause it makes things way easier, sex=highest investment and now a days you need in my opinion 3 fucks for the women to even invest.... No offense, i personally seen posters ask for advise, refute advise given, when they refute, they realize they were actually wrong, and create some bogus lay report, "met girl, took her home, asd, but we gang a lot".. I am not totally saying that this happened here... But i have seen this over and over and over... Hopefully with you this is not the case....

Fair enough