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Lucky

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Okay guys another thing the thing is I like this girl i can flirt over text and in class (I'm in high School) but besides that I'm not sure that i'm chasing the thing is I've known her for about 2 terms to now in term 3 now i know that your probably going to say move on or something similar but the thing is prior to Neil Strass (Style) who says in his book The game of penetrating the secret society of pick up artists is that once she gives 3 IOI (indicators of interest) move she gave them on this Monday. Now I am trying to make a move but rational thoughts keep on getting in my head and possible outcomes that would effect my reputation but at the same time i also know about what will happen to her attraction if i don't move so i am forced to take a chance but i also have competition about 3 other people have a crush on her now 2 of them aren't really that social and aren't good at their game so basically those two are out unless they manage to improve quickly but the other one has real experience. Having been in a long term relationship which might have made his game rusty but he's also quite popular and the thing is while the girls flirts with me the other dude also flirts with the girl (Be aware the dude broke up last term). So I'm at odds with opponents that could become a problem so any ideas.
 

Frost

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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First of all, forget the stuff you learned from Style. They might work well in certain situations, but I believe that the information Chase and the others present on this website are far more valuable and work on making you a better man who understands women instead of trying to play games and tricks on them.

About your specific problem:

-If guys have a crush on the girl it means they are not your competition, because usually crush = obsessing over a girl and never making a move.
-I don't think you should mind the competition too much because there is nothing special you can do, other than what you should usually do, move fast and so on.
-If you think she's still interested, next time you have a conversation with her, ask her out. I believe there is an article about that. I'm actually going to do that soon with a girl I met recently at my new university.
-Just follow standard GC advice, move fast, get investment and stop second-guessing yourself.

And good luck :)
 

Lucky

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Thanks Frost I'll see if I can find that article
 
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Bboy100

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You're in high school, not in a bar or club. The rules are totally different. Forget everything you've learned from the PUA community. As for Neil Strauss/Mystery and all the old-school guys. I highly recommend scrapping that in the first place. It works, but only in bars and only with a specific type of girl...a kind you probably want nothing to do with. It's completely toxic.

Other than that, I'd say you suffer from the same type of problem I do: you overthink the shit out of everything. You need to find ways to become more present minded. That is...you need to turn off or at least turn down all that chatter in your head about how you should behave in a given situation or what to do etc. It's creating anxiety which is doomed to absolutely paralyze you. Believe it or not, pretty much everything you wrote about in your OP is some sort of unrealistic fear, or is just completely inconsequential.

For example, who the fuck cares who you're competing with and how much experience they have. That's not going to change what YOU are going to do. Plus to be completely blunt, you're all in high school. Almost no one in high school has even the slightest clue of what they're doing with women...even the guys who look like they do, they don't. Most guys who get laid in high school only do it because they got lucky one time, which resulted in a shit ton of preselection and social proof. Then it just snowballed from there. It has nothing to do with their actual social skills

Anyway...one good way of becoming more present minded is through meditation and other forms of mindfulness. I'd start with 5 minutes a day, then slowly ramp it up as it gets easier. Also, I highly recommend checking this podcast out: http://thematinggrounds.com/the-mating- ... ges-14-18/
 

Lucky

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Thanks Bboy100 I just read the article that you sent it helped
 
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