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Yesterday I met up with a Belgian friend of mine at the waterfront of Ipanema, two hunters on the prowl. This guy is a natural who I met at a bar last Friday. That night, we opened a group of girls together, and ended up each pulling one from the group. It was interesting to see how a natural handles seduction, simply using the power of strong fundamentals and teasing, with very few words, to command the attention of an entire group of girls. After a while, they were eagerly hanging on to his every reaction. I was super impressed.
It really inspired me to work on my fundamentals, and also made me realise that I’m a very analytical person who probably tends to overthink seduction, when relaxing into the set and treating it as if you’re playing with silly children is actually very effective (at least in night game). We do each have strengths and weaknesses though, as I later found out, and I’m definitely a bit more calibrated than him when it comes to day game.
Anyway, it was mid afternoon, and we got some caipirinhas and walked up to a rocky outcrop where people go to watch the sunset. I indirect opened a couple of girls who flashed a warm smile. One of them hooked and seemed quite interested, but it turned out she was too young, so we carried on.
We opened another group of hot girls at the lookout who gave us the total cold shoulder. It’s funny, Brazilian girls are so used to being approached by guys that they have developed a herd mentality. If they’re not interested, they’ll just huddle together and pretend you don’t exist. Some favela boys saw our failed approach and laughed, then asked us if we wanted some favela whores. We politely declined their kind offer, though my buddy bought some “wares” off them.
Heading back along the beach, we walked past a couple of decent-enough-looking girls who I decided to open. Cupped the elbow of one and asked if they were sisters (which they obviously weren’t because one was white and the other was Latina), and said that although they look completely different, they have the same energy. I then went into some Tom Torero style assumption stacking about vibe and style, which was probably a little overkill. But they seemed to enjoy my judging qualification, and they quickly hooked.
Turned out they were med students from Colombia, 22 years old, visiting Rio for a day as part of a Brazil trip. It was pretty clear which of us was targeting which - both were decent 7s and I got the white redhead who had an average face and tits, but an amazing ass. Figured I could just take her from behind and imagine I was fucking a 10 lol. After some banter, I suggested we grab drinks nearby.
It was honestly a pretty straightforward seduction that required very little actual game. They were clearly in holiday mode with no plan for the day and super compliant, so we knew it would be an easy pull. I used a lot of sexual eye contact and incidental touching with mine, and she spoke good English which made it easier for me. My buddy seemed to be in lower energy and disengaged, so I took the reins of the conversation. I asked how they met and talked about how great it is when you meet someone and you just have instant chemistry with them (a little SMMA gambit), and I teased them about their silly medicine pill earrings. By this point it felt like I was getting sexual eye contact from both of them, so I pulled my buddy aside and told him we should make a move quick.
Talking in private at the bar, my buddy told me about a great party going on later. I jokingly said it would be great if we could fuck these girls before dinner, then ditch them and head to the party to find some more. I thought such a feat would be impossible, but again… just my limiting beliefs.
So we went back to the table and told the girls about the party. They were hesitant to go because of the steep entrance fee, but eventually decided it was okay. I was pretty sure that they, like us, just wanted to fuck, so we would use the party as a pretence to get them back to ours. I told mine she could get changed at my place which wasn’t far, and she readily agreed. There was some miscommunication between my buddy and his girl tho, and the other girl thought that they were both coming to mine (did I miss a potential threesome?) Eventually we straightened things out, and we both called our Ubers (though his girl seemed a little more reluctant to go with him than mine - probably because I had handled all the comfort-building in the conversation).
For a 7, the redhead was actually fantastic in bed. Really sensual and affectionate. We also just generally seemed to share the same somewhat introverted personality type, so we connected good. The giant mirror above my bed prevented me from carrying out my imagination fantasy though lol. Also, this was one of the quickest pulls in my life - from meet to lay in under two hours.
We cuddled after the sex, then after a while I made up some shit about having to call my parents later that evening to get her out. Felt kinda bad about lying, but… meh. I texted my buddy, he gave his girl the same excuse (lol) and we met up at the party later that night.
The party was at a place called Bosque, which is probably the most popular club in Rio de Janeiro. For Brazil, it’s considered fairly upscale - expensive enough that only the “high society” of Rio goes there, and so there are a lot of classy girls - think white-skinned blonde Brazilians with big fake tits who come from the old money families. It’s a decent mix though. The greatest concentration of hot girls I’ve seen in Brazil for sure. However, for that reason it’s an ultra competitive marketplace.
So for this club I decided to adapt to a slightly more aggressive style, much as I see Brazilian guys doing. However I would focus more on comfort-building than touch, as touching is so common in Brazil that I think the sexualising effect is dampened.
I’ve noticed some interesting things about how dating works in Brazil. In most countries, a typical seduction involves several steps that usually follow a sequence - meet, talk, emotionally connect, touch, sexual arousal, kiss, sex. Well in Brazil, some of these steps are brought forward. For example, it’s totally normal to kiss before any sort of emotional connection (sometimes in as little as 2 minutes or less). However, this doesn’t mean the entire process can be expedited. In my experience, it still takes the same amount of time and effort to get a girl into bed as it does in other cultures where the kiss comes later. A kiss doesn’t mean you’ve sealed the deal with her and she’s coming home with you. A Brazilian girl might kiss multiple guys in one night and not fuck any of them. Making out is so common and so easy here, I don’t think girls even get sexually aroused by it. It’s just a very standard thing you do to get to know somebody of the opposite sex. That’s why I think comfort-building, qualification, and pre-selection are extra important here if you want to actually pull.
So we split up and worked the club. My friend opened a smoking hot Venezuelan HB9 right in front of her date (actually a guy she just met who had been making out with her), which I thought was one of the ballsiest and most hilarious things I've ever seen. The petrified, horror-striken look on the guy's face was priceless. He got her Instagram and left them to it. Probably going to fuck her later in the week. She gave me seductive smiles as well, so I think she was just super horny. God damn... Venezuela awaits me one day.
Meanwhile, I was in the 60 Years of Challenge mindset of weeding out the time wasters to find my Green Light girl. I did probably 8 sets over a couple of hours. The ice-cold rejections were nothing short of hilarious to me. Girls dressed up super slutty and acting like frumpy ice queens when a guy actually comes to talk to her. After years of getting my ego brutalised in every possibly way with day game, club game feels like a total joke to me. Like how do guys even take it seriously? It’s just an animal house of guys trying to fuck and girls in skimpy outfits pretending like they don’t want to get fucked.
After a while, it was getting super packed and I could hardly stand the shitty music anymore, so I stepped outside to take a breather. Out by the entrance, I noticed a very cute petite blonde sitting by herself scrolling her phone, so I sat down next to her and opened indirect, commenting about how exhausting the music is. She agreed - she was outside for the same reason. Strong eye contact, smile, instant hook. Hell yes, I had found my Green Light girl!
She didn’t speak English, so I spoke to her in broken Portuguese. She’s a nursing student, 20 years old, very feminine energy and great sense of humor. Totally my type. She laughed a lot at my stupid jokes even though I only understood 50% of what she said. After some time, I moved her to another spot away from the music so that I could hear her better. I put one arm behind her back and one in her hand, and she complied. Very soon (even sooner than I expected) she turned to me and looked into my eyes and leaned in for the kiss. It was nice, soft but passionate - the redeeming experience of the night for me in that nauseating club.
She rested in my arms and we chatted a little longer. It was about 1am by now, and pretty soon her friends came out too. She asked where abouts I was staying. I took that as an invitation to pull, so I asked if she wanted to come with me. To my surprise, she gave a rather firm no, saying she had class at 7am. Perhaps I should have persisted, but I figured if that was true then it would have been a shitty night of sex anyway. So we exchanged contacts and I told her we should hang out again. After some texting back and forth the next day, I’ve set up a date with her for the day after Valentines. Should be smooth sailing.
Conclusion
Overall, it was a day of lots of new reference points. Day game cold approach leading to SDL, followed by night game cold approach leading to a number and kiss close. That's one for the memories!
Also I learned that there’s plenty to learn from hanging out with naturals. They may lack the calibration we have (and GAMBITS which IMO are the true secret spells of seduction), but they show how much one can achieve simply with strong fundamentals and a really laid-back vibe. It's never a bad idea to return to the basics.
It really inspired me to work on my fundamentals, and also made me realise that I’m a very analytical person who probably tends to overthink seduction, when relaxing into the set and treating it as if you’re playing with silly children is actually very effective (at least in night game). We do each have strengths and weaknesses though, as I later found out, and I’m definitely a bit more calibrated than him when it comes to day game.
Anyway, it was mid afternoon, and we got some caipirinhas and walked up to a rocky outcrop where people go to watch the sunset. I indirect opened a couple of girls who flashed a warm smile. One of them hooked and seemed quite interested, but it turned out she was too young, so we carried on.
We opened another group of hot girls at the lookout who gave us the total cold shoulder. It’s funny, Brazilian girls are so used to being approached by guys that they have developed a herd mentality. If they’re not interested, they’ll just huddle together and pretend you don’t exist. Some favela boys saw our failed approach and laughed, then asked us if we wanted some favela whores. We politely declined their kind offer, though my buddy bought some “wares” off them.
Heading back along the beach, we walked past a couple of decent-enough-looking girls who I decided to open. Cupped the elbow of one and asked if they were sisters (which they obviously weren’t because one was white and the other was Latina), and said that although they look completely different, they have the same energy. I then went into some Tom Torero style assumption stacking about vibe and style, which was probably a little overkill. But they seemed to enjoy my judging qualification, and they quickly hooked.
Turned out they were med students from Colombia, 22 years old, visiting Rio for a day as part of a Brazil trip. It was pretty clear which of us was targeting which - both were decent 7s and I got the white redhead who had an average face and tits, but an amazing ass. Figured I could just take her from behind and imagine I was fucking a 10 lol. After some banter, I suggested we grab drinks nearby.
It was honestly a pretty straightforward seduction that required very little actual game. They were clearly in holiday mode with no plan for the day and super compliant, so we knew it would be an easy pull. I used a lot of sexual eye contact and incidental touching with mine, and she spoke good English which made it easier for me. My buddy seemed to be in lower energy and disengaged, so I took the reins of the conversation. I asked how they met and talked about how great it is when you meet someone and you just have instant chemistry with them (a little SMMA gambit), and I teased them about their silly medicine pill earrings. By this point it felt like I was getting sexual eye contact from both of them, so I pulled my buddy aside and told him we should make a move quick.
Talking in private at the bar, my buddy told me about a great party going on later. I jokingly said it would be great if we could fuck these girls before dinner, then ditch them and head to the party to find some more. I thought such a feat would be impossible, but again… just my limiting beliefs.
So we went back to the table and told the girls about the party. They were hesitant to go because of the steep entrance fee, but eventually decided it was okay. I was pretty sure that they, like us, just wanted to fuck, so we would use the party as a pretence to get them back to ours. I told mine she could get changed at my place which wasn’t far, and she readily agreed. There was some miscommunication between my buddy and his girl tho, and the other girl thought that they were both coming to mine (did I miss a potential threesome?) Eventually we straightened things out, and we both called our Ubers (though his girl seemed a little more reluctant to go with him than mine - probably because I had handled all the comfort-building in the conversation).
For a 7, the redhead was actually fantastic in bed. Really sensual and affectionate. We also just generally seemed to share the same somewhat introverted personality type, so we connected good. The giant mirror above my bed prevented me from carrying out my imagination fantasy though lol. Also, this was one of the quickest pulls in my life - from meet to lay in under two hours.
We cuddled after the sex, then after a while I made up some shit about having to call my parents later that evening to get her out. Felt kinda bad about lying, but… meh. I texted my buddy, he gave his girl the same excuse (lol) and we met up at the party later that night.
The party was at a place called Bosque, which is probably the most popular club in Rio de Janeiro. For Brazil, it’s considered fairly upscale - expensive enough that only the “high society” of Rio goes there, and so there are a lot of classy girls - think white-skinned blonde Brazilians with big fake tits who come from the old money families. It’s a decent mix though. The greatest concentration of hot girls I’ve seen in Brazil for sure. However, for that reason it’s an ultra competitive marketplace.
So for this club I decided to adapt to a slightly more aggressive style, much as I see Brazilian guys doing. However I would focus more on comfort-building than touch, as touching is so common in Brazil that I think the sexualising effect is dampened.
I’ve noticed some interesting things about how dating works in Brazil. In most countries, a typical seduction involves several steps that usually follow a sequence - meet, talk, emotionally connect, touch, sexual arousal, kiss, sex. Well in Brazil, some of these steps are brought forward. For example, it’s totally normal to kiss before any sort of emotional connection (sometimes in as little as 2 minutes or less). However, this doesn’t mean the entire process can be expedited. In my experience, it still takes the same amount of time and effort to get a girl into bed as it does in other cultures where the kiss comes later. A kiss doesn’t mean you’ve sealed the deal with her and she’s coming home with you. A Brazilian girl might kiss multiple guys in one night and not fuck any of them. Making out is so common and so easy here, I don’t think girls even get sexually aroused by it. It’s just a very standard thing you do to get to know somebody of the opposite sex. That’s why I think comfort-building, qualification, and pre-selection are extra important here if you want to actually pull.
So we split up and worked the club. My friend opened a smoking hot Venezuelan HB9 right in front of her date (actually a guy she just met who had been making out with her), which I thought was one of the ballsiest and most hilarious things I've ever seen. The petrified, horror-striken look on the guy's face was priceless. He got her Instagram and left them to it. Probably going to fuck her later in the week. She gave me seductive smiles as well, so I think she was just super horny. God damn... Venezuela awaits me one day.
Meanwhile, I was in the 60 Years of Challenge mindset of weeding out the time wasters to find my Green Light girl. I did probably 8 sets over a couple of hours. The ice-cold rejections were nothing short of hilarious to me. Girls dressed up super slutty and acting like frumpy ice queens when a guy actually comes to talk to her. After years of getting my ego brutalised in every possibly way with day game, club game feels like a total joke to me. Like how do guys even take it seriously? It’s just an animal house of guys trying to fuck and girls in skimpy outfits pretending like they don’t want to get fucked.
After a while, it was getting super packed and I could hardly stand the shitty music anymore, so I stepped outside to take a breather. Out by the entrance, I noticed a very cute petite blonde sitting by herself scrolling her phone, so I sat down next to her and opened indirect, commenting about how exhausting the music is. She agreed - she was outside for the same reason. Strong eye contact, smile, instant hook. Hell yes, I had found my Green Light girl!
She didn’t speak English, so I spoke to her in broken Portuguese. She’s a nursing student, 20 years old, very feminine energy and great sense of humor. Totally my type. She laughed a lot at my stupid jokes even though I only understood 50% of what she said. After some time, I moved her to another spot away from the music so that I could hear her better. I put one arm behind her back and one in her hand, and she complied. Very soon (even sooner than I expected) she turned to me and looked into my eyes and leaned in for the kiss. It was nice, soft but passionate - the redeeming experience of the night for me in that nauseating club.
She rested in my arms and we chatted a little longer. It was about 1am by now, and pretty soon her friends came out too. She asked where abouts I was staying. I took that as an invitation to pull, so I asked if she wanted to come with me. To my surprise, she gave a rather firm no, saying she had class at 7am. Perhaps I should have persisted, but I figured if that was true then it would have been a shitty night of sex anyway. So we exchanged contacts and I told her we should hang out again. After some texting back and forth the next day, I’ve set up a date with her for the day after Valentines. Should be smooth sailing.
Conclusion
Overall, it was a day of lots of new reference points. Day game cold approach leading to SDL, followed by night game cold approach leading to a number and kiss close. That's one for the memories!
Also I learned that there’s plenty to learn from hanging out with naturals. They may lack the calibration we have (and GAMBITS which IMO are the true secret spells of seduction), but they show how much one can achieve simply with strong fundamentals and a really laid-back vibe. It's never a bad idea to return to the basics.
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