Atlas's Journal

[Atlas]

Went to the gym today and saw some girl who I've had flirty eye contact with once. She was a cute blonde and I want to get over my approach anxiety so I approached. I was working out next to her when she looked over at me and I smiled and walked over and said:
Mesaw she was doing burpees) hey you know the Olympics aren't for a few more years right?"
Her: "oh yeah haha"
Me: "that's pretty impressive, how many did ya do?"
Her: "I wasn't really keeping count"
Me: "well that's still good! (Stuck out my hand) my names Atlas"
Her: "nice to meet you"
Me: "what's your name?"
Her: "my names xxx" starts walking away
Me: "nice to meet you, see you around"

She didn't seem very interested and I'm upset that it didn't work out but I'm glad I approached nonetheless. Oh well you win some and lose some.
Keep it Real,
Atlas

 

[Atlas]

Hey, to anyone that's reading this I hope your having as awesome as a day as I am! Alright, I Had a text message convo with some girl who was apparently my neighbor and set up a date. To preface this, I didn't have any previous contact with this girl, or even knew who she was. She goes to my high school (which I just graduated from) so I've heard her name around a few times. I just moved out of the area 30 minutes from my small town where I used to love and where she currently lives to a new one, which may have been some of the reason which prompted her to message me. She messaged me out of the blue and was actually the one who initiated contact, which surprised me. Also, We both used a shit load of emoticons (something I'm usually against, but this girl is a junior in high school, so I thought it was appropriate) Anyways, on to the messages:
Her: hey Atlas (flirty smiley face)
Me: hey (smiley face), do I know you?
Her: you should! (Sarcastic emoji) I was your neighbor (laughing emoji)
Me: and you didn't even come say hi to me.... (Trying to act falsely disappointed, not sure if that translated over text)
Her: I would but I'm NEVER home (laughing)
Me: never? Well that's a shame
Her: I know (sad face)
Me: well hey don't get so down yet. You seem like a cool girl, how about you and me grab some ice cream together and get to know each other a little better (winky face)
Her: I would like that (shy smiley)
Me: awesome are you free any time this weekend?
Her: I don't think I can because I baby sit
Me: ok, when works best for you?
Her: idk I baby sit a lot
(I was prepared to end it here, so I let it go)
She messaged me back a day later (yesterday) and said
Her: if you still want to know when I'm free I only babysit on the weekend (laughing face)

I still didn't respond back.i would like to set up a date and grab some ice cream then go to the park for a "walk" , but as I said I'm a little skeptical since I don't know this girl. She could be a loser and i don't really know what she looks like except from her Facebook posts (in which she looks hot) but I'm willing to give it a shot. Some things I would like to mention is that I have a shit load of good friends in her grade who may have cajoled her into messaging me and I noticed she read my messages but still took a while to reply, as if she was thinking of the right wording or maybe asking her friends what to say. I wish I would've been a little more flirty or built maybe a little rapport. Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated especially on what to do when I'm with her since I don't currently live around where she does. If I went for sex it would have to be in a car or something, which is not exactly an area I'm proficient at.... Yet haha. Thanks for reading.

Keep it Real,
Atlas

 

[Atlas]

Move-In day of College!

Everyone for my college moved in today, and I was so excited today to go out and meet some new people (especially girls). So my college hosted this big event in the main building in the center of the campus. There was music, dancers, magicians, stunt guys, so much cool things. While I did enjoy these, my goal was to go meet as many girls as possible. I went around talking to all sorts of people at first to build up my social momentum and then went to approach.

First Approach:
My first approach were these 2 blonde girls who were very attractive next to the Starbucks stand. I grabbed a free sample and asked them if it was good. They said they didn't know, but to let them know. I said ok cheerfully and asked them about their shirts. We all had our shirts on that said what college we were going to be in for our majors (ex. Liberal Arts, Engineering, DUS, etc.). They had engineering on so I asked them how they did on the placement test because it was super hard. They both said that they did well, and I told them I did too, but I sorta cheated and told them not to tell anyone and they laughed. I deep dove some more asking them about what they wanted to do about the future and told them to tell me about themselves. I also asked them about what clubs and sports they wanted to join. We talked for a few minutes and I powered through the silences letting them ask my questions or filling the silences in as I used pregnant pauses. The one girl Marie, who I accidentally confused with her friend next to her (Megan) was super interested, but I lingered a little too long and the conversation fizzled out. I should've got their numbers early and left but for some reason I hung around and unfortunately just a little too long.

Second Approach:
I went into this long ass line for free custom t-shirts (I didn't know what it was at the time) and saw some cute brunette and blonde girls so I started talking to them. They (like the last approach) were wearing engineering shirts and I pretty much followed the same format as above and the conversation fizzled out. It was like an exact replica of the last approach. I was frustrated at myself for not grabbing their numbers while I had the chance but there are 40,000 people at my school, so my anger faded quickly once I approached some more girls.

Last Approach:
I was walking back to my dorms and I saw these two cute girls (it seems that they always travel in packs of two haha) with booty shorts on a little ways in front of me, so I started walking fast to catch up to them. I caught up to them right as I entered my dorm building and we got to the elevator at the same time. The one girl (Ella) hit the elevator button and the elevator instantly opened up. I said "oh its here already haha" and they smiled and laughed and we got onto the elevator together. Ella hit the button for her floor and asked what mine was. I looked at her friend who had really big boobs and was not so subtely showing them off and smiled and she smiled back. I said floor 10 and her friend Sammy asked if that was the ROTC floor. I said yes it was, and asked her how she knew. She told me that her friend is on the floor and asked me how I liked ROTC. I said that it was difficult but worth it. We talked about that for about 20 seconds and we reached their floor. She introduced her friend (who up to this point I didn't know) and said that it was really nice meeting me. I shook her hand and she told me her name and as the elevator closed she told me her room number and told me to stop by some time. I was really hyped about that, but I smelled like ass because I got a killer workout in before the event earlier so I decided to get a shower. This led to me to here typing this up. I was really debating going to the girls dorm room, but its late and I don't want to wake them up if they are sleeping, I figure I'll stop by some time tomorrow evening.

Although I didn't get any numbers, Im glad i approach some many girls and hopefully I'll get a number tomorrow from those girls I met in the elevator. If anyone reading this has any advice, criticisms or comments I always love to hear them so please feel free to let me know what I did well and what I could've done better.

Keep It Real,
Atlas

 

[fsc]

I see you're starting college well =]

I went around talking to all sorts of people at first to build up my social momentum and then went to approach.

Awesome. I don't do this much, but I should.

They said they didn't know, but to let them know. I said ok cheerfully

I'm nitpicking, but you should've responded with a more-nonchalant "sure" to retain a stronger frame. They requested compliance from you and you cheerfully submitted to them. Very good of you to change topics to their shirts though, instead of continuing like "Oh! It's really yummy!" That would've been bad.

I felt kinda "ehh" when you mentioned cheating. I think you were going for a badboy/"breaking the rules" type of frame and imply discreetness, but academic cheating generally don't have a good feel to it at any angle. Romantic cheating can stir excitement and stuff, but cheating on tests might make you appear incompetent more often than a badboy.

"oh its here already haha"

I have a hard time being witty on the spot, but it's better to play around with it than stating the obvious. So some possible statements you can make if that happens again are "It seems like you have the magic touch" or raise your eyebrows and be like "Well, wouldn't that be nice if that happened all the time?"

Again, I'm nitpicking because I'm an asshole perfectionist. Don't let this get you in your head too much because you're already doing better than most guys. It's college where girls will barely be in their 20s; it's not an upscale lounge with elite-caliber women, so tiny things like this won't even register on the girls' minds. Also, college girls are kinda weird. I've had bad interactions with girls, then the next time I run into them they were hella warm. So be positive, and keep being a beast =]

 

[Atlas]

Hey fsc its been a while bro, thanks for the advice! First off, yes, you were indeed correct when you said that you thought that I was going for the bad boy vibe when I mentioned cheating on the qualifying exam. I say it in such a way, however, that it comes off as funny to most people and I explained to them how I "cheated". I use the words cheating as a misnomer of sorts because I didn't really cheat, I just used a technicality to get a better score, and it didn't matter at all.

Secondly, for some reason I appear to be in a rut as far as pickup is concerned for me lately and I'm not too sure why. It's weird, I'm even having difficulty making friends and most of the time I can make friends with whoever I choose. Before I left for college I was very charismatic and always knew what to say to make people laugh and have a good time and like me. I feel as though with everything going on that I need some time to acclimate and maybe I'll be back to normal. I feel as though thats why I haven't been as witty and I'm trying to get back in my groove. Although I do have to say that my usual sense of humor is a blatant sarcasm and most people have a difficult time figuring out if I'm serious and just a dick or joking.

Thank you for your nitpickiness; its provided much insight to some things I could continue to improve upon and I'm grateful for it. I've noticed that because this is college I'm allotted a certain amount of leeway as far as mistakes are concerned. I don't believe girls honestly pick up on them as you said or maybe they do and just don't care. Also, I just got Tinder and followed Colt's steps to set it up so hopefully that kickstarts my interactions with women here.

Keep It Real,
Atlas

 

[fsc]

Yee, I've been busy trying to not get kicked out of school. Now I'm busy trying to make myself employable since my GPA is crap lols. Put school first and girls second or wherever haha.

I say it in such a way, however, that it comes off as funny to most people and I explained to them how I "cheated". I use the words cheating as a misnomer of sorts because I didn't really cheat, I just used a technicality to get a better score, and it didn't matter at all.

Gotcha

Secondly, for some reason I appear to be in a rut as far as pickup is concerned for me lately and I'm not too sure why. It's weird, I'm even having difficulty making friends and most of the time I can make friends with whoever I choose. Before I left for college I was very charismatic and always knew what to say to make people laugh and have a good time and like me. I feel as though with everything going on that I need some time to acclimate and maybe I'll be back to normal. I feel as though thats why I haven't been as witty and I'm trying to get back in my groove. Although I do have to say that my usual sense of humor is a blatant sarcasm and most people have a difficult time figuring out if I'm serious and just a dick or joking.

I had the same problem and I had NO idea why and it pissed me off quite a bit.
Are you a perfectionist? Are you over-analyzing?
Are you overly-concerned about how you may come across to other people? Worried about reputation?
Are you categorizing away people like "Oh she's not worth my time", "Oh, he prolly has nothing good to offer me", etc?
Have you prioritized seduction so much that when you talk to people, you don't have much to talk about other than girls?

The first two impeded my progress quite a bit, while the latter two prevented me from making friends. I think I had some other issues, but those are what I can recall at the moment.

Maybe you just need a little more time to get comfortable being away from home and family. Like you said, once you start getting acclimated to your new environment, the original you will resurface bit by bit. Try not to accomplish too many things at once and overload yourself. Lie down and relax a bit on a random school bench. Walk around without approaching, and just appreciate the surroundings and sorta assimilate yourself into it as if you lived there your whole life. Pick up a new hobby or a sport. Wander into your local cafes or stores and become acquainted with its clerks.

I actually just got hooked up with an interview earlier today while chilling at a hookah lounge. I know pretty much everyone who works there, and one of the employee's friend owns a startup and is looking for a web developer. So yeah, try to be that charismatic, warm self and definitely put effort into networking. Your dream job or your dream babe may just be one acquaintance away <- kinda stole that from one of the GC articles =p

Also, you can try coupling your sarcasm with warm body language, like a playful smile or an exaggerated "yeah, I know I am being a dick" grin.

I've noticed that because this is college I'm allotted a certain amount of leeway as far as mistakes are concerned. I don't believe girls honestly pick up on them as you said or maybe they do and just don't care.

You will definitely find girls whose social skills are hella elite-caliber and plenty of girls who are quite chill and forgiving. But just like men, not everyone is socially adroit. I've met some freshmen girls 3 years ago who were awkward as fuck then, but now they're a lot more socially graceful and easier to talk to. There is one specific girl I have in mind right now who makes me believe there's a boyschase.com out there because she improved so much in one year.
There were two other girls, M and her sorority little, K, with whom I spent over 15 minutes trying to make a conversation work. Their responses were super short and gave me nothing to work off of, so it felt like a terrible interview and was really difficult for me to do anything. About a week later at a party, I see M giving me the "fuck me" eyes. I think M and K got together for a gossip brunch and they were like "OMG fsc soooo wants to fuck you" or something. So I dunno, maybe things just don't register in their minds at the time due to adrenaline or whatever reason lols

Also, I can't tell you much about reputation (I think Anatman and other board members can best advise you on this on the general threads or something) because I do zero social circle game, and my fear of damaging mine and my frat's reputation prevented me from being as active as I should've been in pickup. Which was a good thing, because at the time I was socially retarded and trying to make scripted direct openers work. LOL. But one thing I can tell you for sure is that girls LOOOOOOOOOVE to talk. A whole sorority currently hates me because I hurt one of their sisters (I stopped talking to her because she got boring and I had projects to do..lulz), and occasionally I run into girls who know a shit ton about me but I haven't met them before. I don't think you have to worry too much in the way that I did though. Your approaches are situational, and you seem much more socially advanced than I was.

Anyway, hopefully you'll find whatever is bothering you.

 

[Atlas]

Approach at the gym

I haven't posted in a while, but have been steadily approaching girls while at college and gaining some (much needed) experience. I'm happy to say that I'm finally in a place where I am comfortable around women, and don't feel too much anxiety about approaching and usually can talk to girls unhindered by the nervousness that used to plague me in the past.

Background
I hit the gym almost everyday, taking one day off every week or two. I'm home from school, in a place where I just moved to, so I don't know too many people at the gym or really anywhere for that matter. I quickly made friends with the employees as recommended from the "hitting on girls at the gym article". I ran a 6:00 and then hit up a hard leg day. As I was finishing, I saw this hot blonde with spandex shorts on, running pretty fast. She looked pretty attractive so I snagged the treadmill 2 away from her, so that it was her, an empty treadmill and then me. I snuck a furtive look at her treadmill and saw she was about 2.5 miles in when I started and was going. I put my treadmill on 9 miles per hour and ran 2 miles. I was sure she would've been done at this point, but she was still going strong at almost the same pace I was. I was wore out from the running I did earlier and the leg day, but I kept going at a slightly slower pace. Eventually around mile 4 I said fuck it because I didn't have anything left in me and felt like I was about to puke. I cleaned off the machine and went over to the stretching area not too far away. While stretching, I had a vantage point so I could see the treadmills (and her). I saw her finish up and start to walk on the treadmill. I went back to my stretching and looked back up and saw she was gone. I was definitely intrigued by this girl and wanted to know how she had as much speed and endurance as she did so I was a little afraid that I might not get the chance to talk to her. I got up, cleaned off the mat I was stretching on, and went to go fill up my water container which was right next to the girls locker room (where I thought she went). So just as I was reaching the water fountain, she came out of the locker room.

The Approach
So I approached her from behind, which was NOT the way I had planned it out in my mind. I saw her walk out of the locker room and it was the only chance I had. I was directly behind her (almost close enough to tap on the shoulder, but not quite) and I said "hey, wait up!" She didn't look back at first, figuring I was talking to someone else I guess, but she turned around and smiled her bright white teeth at me and said "Hey!" I asked her if she was the one running my 5k pace for like 10 miles. I was a bit of stretch of a compliment because I saw her look over at me when we were both running on the treadmill and I'm confident that she could see I was running faster than she was for longer than 3 miles. She laughed and said "yeah, i go to XXX college and run Cross Country" I told her that was super cool and asked her what her name was. She told me and we shook hands. She then asked if I was a runner as well. I told her that I run and lift hoping to compete in triathlons soon and she stated that she knew a bunch of people at the team at her school. I asked her about the tracks in the area because I haven't been able to find any and have been scouring the area. We talked for a few more minutes about running and stuff and we parted ways saying that we would both be back around the same time the next day.

Summary
I think I did ok, wish I couldve got a little more banter in, but overall I'm satisfied. I'm confident that we will both catch up tomorrow for a run and hopefully learn more about her. I didn't go for the number because I figured I will definitely see her around sometime as she runs about an hour every day at the same time, so maybe that was a bit of risk but it was one I was willing to take. If anyone has any constructive criticism feel free to put it in, I'm always looking to improve.

Keep It Real,
Atlas

 

[Atlas]

Improving Texting Game
So as this title suggests, here are my recent text messages. I think I'm getting better at this, if anyone other than myself finds any constructive criticisms please feel free to help a brother out.

Tinder Girl E
Me: Hey 300 miles isn't too far away right? (we matched on Tinder but somehow she was 300 miles away)
Her: Nah not really (laughing emoji)
Me: Fantastic, I like you already haha
Her: Well thats good lol
Me: Yeah so are you actually 300 miles away or are you on vacation?
Her: I'm actually 300 miles away
Me: Well shit
Her: Yeah lol
Me: If you ever want to hit the gym, I'm only a short 300 miles away lol
Her: Ehh thats not too bad (laughing emoji)
Me: It would be worth it I have a killer six pack haha
Her: So you could whip me into shape lol
Me: Oh I'd do more than that (winky face)
Her: Laughing emojis
Then I asked for her Snapchat and we snap chat a little bit. I knew it wasn't going anywhere because we were so far apart, I was just trying to have fun with the convo.

Tinder Girl H
Me: oh hey 400 miles isn't too far apart right? (Idk if you guys could tell but this is my favorite opener haha)
Her: Im on vacation we actually aren't that far apart
Me:Oh good, where are you on vacation at?
Her: XYZ Beach
Me: Cool, have fun. There aren't enough in XYZ town (actually there aren't any, this was a joke)
Her: Thats for sure
Her: I would be great if there were (sent at 1250 at night)
Me: Hey isn't it past your bedtime
Her: Probably lmao
Her: isn't it past yours
Me: Yeah it totally is please don't tell my mom
Her: Ill let it slide this once
Her: But next time.... I'm going to need her number
Me: You can have my number instead. As long as you promise not to send me any naughty pics.(saw my opening and went for it lol)
Her: Oh I promise
Me: (gave her my number) Here ya go.
I felt pretty suave with the last couple messages on this one, we texted for a little bit but nothing happened. I've actually been meaning to hit this girl up.

Sliding into those DMs
This actually happened recently. I followed some random girl I had 1 mutual friend with who was cute. Then I liked one of her pics, she liked one of mine so I decided to message her.

Me: Hey do we know each other (suck ass opening message in my opinion but I literally couldn't think of anything else.)
Her: I don't think we do (laughing emoji)
Me: Oh well we totally should, I'm a ton of fun. You'll love me
Her: haha maybe (laughing emoji)
Me: Maybe? You'll come around eventually (winky face). So are you friends with [MutualFriendGirl]
Her: Yes she said your a freak (this mutual friend is sorta a bitch but I thought she liked me so I can't tell if this girl was lying or not.)
Me: What?? MutualFriendGirl said that about me? She's such a handful, if anyone's the freak its her haha
Her: Umm definitely not her (rolling eyes emoji)
Me: Lol, I bet your fun to snapchat. Add me (listed name)
Still waiting for this girl to add me and its been about an hour. She liked another one of my pics so I can't tell if she didn't see the message or whatever. Oh well, sometimes you just gotta roll with the punches.

This next one isn't too great but I feel like its a good example of trying to make the best out of a conversation where you don't have anything in common

Me: Hey you look like a lot of fun and I wanted to say hi (another great Tinder opener)
Her: Haha hello
Me: So what kind of hobbies do you have (her name)
Her: Most of my hobbies revolve around music since I'm clumsy. (probably should've related to being clumsy since I'm not a music dude but I didn't...)
Me: Haha nice. So do you play an instrument
Me: You strike me as a flute kinda girl lol
Her: Haha not exactly. Primarily I play piano but I dabble in trumpet and ukulele.
Me: Thats really cool. So when we get married in Hawaii you'll be playing the ukulele right (also really like this tactic of "when we get married" or "when we go on our first date...")
Her: thats the most fitting place to play a use, i couldn't just not play it.
Me: Great. So in your bio it says you like to read, what are you favorite books?
Her: Thats such a hard question, (lists some books)
Her: what about you?
Me: Fifty shades of Grey (I was totally joking but she didnt get it lol)
Her: Wowwwww I've never actually read it
Me: Haha I'm kidding you doofus, I haven't either.
And thats where that ended lol.

If anyone has input as always tell me that shit bluntly, I'm not going to get my feelings hurt. Thanks for reading

-Atlas

 

[Atlas]

Sad Feelings
I feel like shit. The girl from my most recent FR still hasn't gotten back to me after 2 days, and I'm starting to believe she never will. I keep trying to tell myself that it doesn't matter, that it's her loss (I know that for sure, because I'm a higher value individual than she is) but it isn't helping. I honestly feel like I'm bordering on depression, but slowly getting over this. Trying to combat the negative feelings I've been having lately, I went to the gym.

Gym Time and Approaching
I love the gym, the gym is my happy place. I just blast music and fuck shit up. I went to the gym today expressly to get rid of negative feelings but ended up approaching a girl. I walk into the gym and hit the treadmill for a light warmup run. I look to my left and see some decently attractive girl and her friend on the treadmills a few down from me. I've seen the dark haired one around before and definitely had a ton of approach invitations from her, but I haven't capitalized. Her other friend is about equally attractive, but I decided that before I left the gym today that I would try to get the black haired one (since I like black haired women so much). So I did my thing at the gym and went over to the ab area, which is in a separate little area of the gym thats good for approaching because of its relative seclusion. I started doing some abs and looked to my side to find the black haired girl and her friend from earlier. I didn't even realize it at first. I did notice that when I first arrived she stopped doing whatever exercise she was doing and started stretching. I saw her look at me a few times, and then move forward and then start doing butt stretches and the hamstring stretch where you spread your legs and reach down the middle. I'm confident she was doing this to try to signal for an approach because she's done it more than once and she was giving me a butt load (pun intended) of approach invitation signals like always. So, finally deciding to take action, I walked forward next to her and said:
"Hi, I'm Atlas. You're really cute and I wanted to come say hi. What's your name?"

Confusion
She looked stunned. At first when I said "hi", she kept looking forward and I stared semi-awkwardly smiling at her for a second before she realized I was talking to her. She looked at me, still stunned and said "oh hi". I asked her why she was training and she said to get fit, she didn't really have a goal. We talked for like 30 seconds more max and the entire time she was gathering her stuff trying to walk away. Her friend, who was behind us seemed as equally as confused as I felt because she seemed nervous like I was a serial killer or something lol. So she walked up to her friend and they had a quiet conversation while I kept stretching and they left. Seriously, it was super weird. She was ridiculously intent on getting away from me, maybe I smelled like BO and didn't realize it haha. Even though I got this super weird rejection, I laughed it off, finished my workout then left. I've never had such a weird reaction to a compliment before. She didn't say thanks, she just wanted to leave that interaction like ASAP. I'm not confused of the concept, I get that it could've been a ton of things. Maybe she had a boyfriend, maybe she was having a bad day, maybe I had a booger in my nose. I'm more confused as to what specifically I did wrong. I don't expect that I, or anyone else will figure it out, but it was still kinda shocking. Somehow it actually managed to put me in a better mood though, at least I tried.

 

[Atlas]

I hit another approach today. In light of a date I had a few days ago, which didn't go great nor horrible, I decided that I needed to approach some more girls..

The Set Up
So I was doing some heavy deadlifts when this girl comes and picks a bench just in front of me. She was doing some weird ab exercise that I haven't seen before, but she kept standing in front of me and periodically bending over in her tight yoga pants. I thought that was a pretty good approach invitation, so I decided to wait. She left the area and then went off to the side. After glancing in the mirror, I saw her look at me a few times.

The Approach
After seeing her look at me a few times, I picked a machine close to her. I did a few sets of curls and waited for her to take a break. As she took a break, I walked over and smiled, saying hi. She was sitting on the ground, and it would've been awkward if I was standing so I sat too. I told her that I thought she was cute and I wanted to come say hi. She was elated and said thanks. I asked if she was trying to become a bikini model and she laughed and said no. I deep dived a little bit, asking where she went to school, what she wanted to do with her life etc, but it felt off to do it at the gym. I felt things heading downhill after a few mins so I told her that I'd let her get back to her workout and said that we should catch up some time. She agree but was already shaking my hand to leave as I was saying it so I couldn't get her number. After that I did a few sets of pull-ups and left.

The Results
Well I didn't get her number or anything, but I think that if I ping her a few times at the gym that I could get her number and progress. Honestly, I'm not 100% what I could've done better. I felt like I should've tried deep diving another time, but I needed her number to set up a date and it felt weird doing that if we didn't really know each other. I think I should've tried coming off a little "sexier" if that makes sense. Oh well, there's always next time

-Atlas