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Stranger said:
Start with learning deep diving and how to past small talk
. That's it really. Follow a process. My Process is Starting from small talk when we have nothing to talk about then deep diving and from there subjects to different topics just start popping up crazy. Your goal is to learn what her deep emotions are. What are her dreams about her life, her dream job, vacation, etc
What are her goals etc . Try to use the last sentence when your convo goes dry to generate new topics. Other technique is trying to think ouside of the box and changing the topic.
Make your fundamentals such as eye contact right. Keep calm and maintain a good vibe.
Here you go. Read these articles and you should be getting better at this .
https://www.girlschase.com/content/getti ... small-talk
https://www.girlschase.com/content/get-to-know-a-girl
https://www.girlschase.com/content/conversationalist
https://www.girlschase.com/content/secre ... -deep-dive
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Stranger-
There's a certain number of questions you can ask women before it starts feeling like an interview if she isn't jumping into the conversation, offering a lot, and asking you questions back.
Two tools to learn and use here:
If you're running up against already having asked too many questions and you feel like you're in danger of interrogating her, start making statements.
Take a look at this article:
Conversation Example
... and notice how the fourth line the man has is a statement, not a question.
Basically, she doesn't ask him anything - she doesn't hook. To prevent her feeling like it's an interrogation, he then makes a statement out of what COULD have been a question, but instead is framed a declaration instead.
This forces her to either go, "Yep," and let the conversation die (if she's REALLY uninterested and just hoping he'll go away), or ask him something to get the ball rolling again (if she's either interested, or polite enough to not let things end having been too one-sided).
The other technique you can use is pausing after she answers something, and staying there, but kind of spacing out / zoning out / looking slightly away, as if distracted / waiting for her to say something, similar to how a slow opening works. If she's interested, she'll usually jump in. However, if she isn't, or she's playing games with you, she'll just as happily let things die down here, so don't use it unless you're willing to have things end if she isn't feeling you.
Chase
Stranger said:
There's a certain number of questions you can ask women before it starts feeling like an interview if she isn't jumping into the conversation, offering a lot, and asking you questions back.
Two tools to learn and use here:
- Turning questions into statements
- Letting things die down to see if she'll contribute
If you're running up against already having asked too many questions and you feel like you're in danger of interrogating her, start making statements.
Take a look at this article:
Conversation Example
... and notice how the fourth line the man has is a statement, not a question.
Basically, she doesn't ask him anything - she doesn't hook. To prevent her feeling like it's an interrogation, he then makes a statement out of what COULD have been a question, but instead is framed a declaration instead.
This forces her to either go, "Yep," and let the conversation die (if she's REALLY uninterested and just hoping he'll go away), or ask him something to get the ball rolling again (if she's either interested, or polite enough to not let things end having been too one-sided).
The other technique you can use is pausing after she answers something, and staying there, but kind of spacing out / zoning out / looking slightly away, as if distracted / waiting for her to say something, similar to how a slow opening works. If she's interested, she'll usually jump in. However, if she isn't, or she's playing games with you, she'll just as happily let things die down here, so don't use it unless you're willing to have things end if she isn't feeling you.
Chase
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Actually tried, tested proven
You need to give her space, so you don't overwhelm her. That is deep diving while letting her breathe.
So lets say you ask about her hobbies, after making a statement
She'll respond
You'll ask why she likes it or what she likes about it
or ask for 3 things that makes someone good at that hobby (leading to lowering her mask)
and then you stop
you can approve, make a comment about it, joke, whatever. Just let her breathe really.
However early on in the interaction I wouldn't advise being negative about it, but if you can pull it off, by all means...
And then it goes on 2-3(At max) questions, let her breathe and so on
After making an assumption don't say YES! I was correct about her.
It's stupid, just don't.
Off you go, walk tall.
You need to give her space, so you don't overwhelm her. That is deep diving while letting her breathe.
So lets say you ask about her hobbies, after making a statement
She'll respond
You'll ask why she likes it or what she likes about it
or ask for 3 things that makes someone good at that hobby (leading to lowering her mask)
and then you stop
you can approve, make a comment about it, joke, whatever. Just let her breathe really.
However early on in the interaction I wouldn't advise being negative about it, but if you can pull it off, by all means...
And then it goes on 2-3(At max) questions, let her breathe and so on
After making an assumption don't say YES! I was correct about her.
It's stupid, just don't.
Off you go, walk tall.
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When someone asks myself a question what is the correct look to give them? Bored?
I constantly find myself jumping to fast to answer, and then forget to properly deflect the question - this is mainly due to me trying to stay aware of everything which can be overwhelming until you have the process down.
Should I wait a minimum of a certain amount before responding and only using verbal before then? I'm very interested in this stuff and will spend tomorrow observing other high status men socialising. That should help as well.
Edit; reading the conversation example for the first time. My best new interactions lately have come off exactly like that, great to know I'm getting deep diving pretty good even when it might be somewhat hard to initially get them to open. Today I started the book 'Influence'. A popular tactic explained in the book goes along the line of asking someone to complete a large request that they will most certainly decline and then saying something along the lines of "Okay, well at least do/buy..." and therefore instantly putting them into social pressure to comply. I know this works even when the other person doesn't exactly want to comply because the pressure is to high and fast. Is this method ever useful in seduction or should I just use it when I really need a favor from a male friend or in the future when I hopefully start in retail. Obviously, I want to be able to get women to comply by being myself and learning social methods but I'm intrigued whether this might save me with a women who is showing interest but won't comply with something because something is stopping her. From what I've learnt I would also want to build her up via rewarding her someway socially for complying and therefore removing any bad feelings that could of come via byproduct.
- Knight
I constantly find myself jumping to fast to answer, and then forget to properly deflect the question - this is mainly due to me trying to stay aware of everything which can be overwhelming until you have the process down.
Should I wait a minimum of a certain amount before responding and only using verbal before then? I'm very interested in this stuff and will spend tomorrow observing other high status men socialising. That should help as well.
Edit; reading the conversation example for the first time. My best new interactions lately have come off exactly like that, great to know I'm getting deep diving pretty good even when it might be somewhat hard to initially get them to open. Today I started the book 'Influence'. A popular tactic explained in the book goes along the line of asking someone to complete a large request that they will most certainly decline and then saying something along the lines of "Okay, well at least do/buy..." and therefore instantly putting them into social pressure to comply. I know this works even when the other person doesn't exactly want to comply because the pressure is to high and fast. Is this method ever useful in seduction or should I just use it when I really need a favor from a male friend or in the future when I hopefully start in retail. Obviously, I want to be able to get women to comply by being myself and learning social methods but I'm intrigued whether this might save me with a women who is showing interest but won't comply with something because something is stopping her. From what I've learnt I would also want to build her up via rewarding her someway socially for complying and therefore removing any bad feelings that could of come via byproduct.
- Knight