Blowouts to approach ratio?

[ChrisXKiss]

I want to add something here. I don’t believe you can count it as a blowout unless the girl is clearly available to talk and clearly rejects you on the spot without even having a polite chat.

For the first part I have personally approached in a wide variety of scenarios, girls walking down the street fast, girls talking on their phones, girls almost ready to jump in some public transport. If I expected all of them to just stop and give up whatever they are doing to talk to me I would be crazy.

And this not because I don’t believe in myself, but because I know that when the girl is in a hurry because she is late for work, or is having an important call, or her train just arrived, she may not even be in the headspace to sit and talk to someone. I can’t think of this as a blowout.

And for the second part, if she at least recognises you and gives a polite comment I don’t consider this a blowout either. I mean what if the girl is really in a relationship and appreciated the attention but just doesn’t want to talk to another guy, should she be polite and stay to have a 5 minute conversation in order to not be considered a blowout?

So in the end for me a blowout is a negative reaction of: “I’d give my time of day to someone right now, but oh my god never to you, stay away!”

Even if you are totally not her type, this should rarely happen.

 

[domran321]

I gave you an explanation as to why it was a silly question- because it depends on a tonne of different variables

If you’re a male 9 in the same city as a male 6 with all other variables equal then the male 9 will get less blowouts than the male 6 - it’s like comparing a pro poker player’s stats to an amateur .

You don’t know where people rate in relation to you nor do you know the city they’re in, nor their conversations- also people tend to exaggerate their successes on pua forums so already you’re putting yourself under pressure comparing yourself to people who may be lying with their stats or may have higher smv/ experience than you and therefore will inevitability get blown out less

LEAVE THE TOPIC STOP ANSWERING SOMETHING I DIDNT ASK. GO MAKE YOUR OWN BLOG AND STOP POSTING YOUR BLOG POSTS HERE RUINING MY TOPIC

 

[domran321]

I want to add something here. I don’t believe you can count it as a blowout unless the girl is clearly available to talk and clearly rejects you on the spot without even having a polite chat.

For the first part I have personally approached in a wide variety of scenarios, girls walking down the street fast, girls talking on their phones, girls almost ready to jump in some public transport. If I expected all of them to just stop and give up whatever they are doing to talk to me I would be crazy.

And this not because I don’t believe in myself, but because I know that when the girl is in a hurry because she is late for work, or is having an important call, or her train just arrived, she may not even be in the headspace to sit and talk to someone. I can’t think of this as a blowout.

And for the second part, if she at least recognises you and gives a polite comment I don’t consider this a blowout either. I mean what if the girl is really in a relationship and appreciated the attention but just doesn’t want to talk to another guy, should she be polite and stay to have a 5 minute conversation in order to not be considered a blowout?

So in the end for me a blowout is a negative reaction of: “I’d give my time of day to someone right now, but oh my god never to you, stay away!”

Even if you are totally not her type, this should rarely happen.

Tldr
Care answering the topic's question???

 

[KJ Francis]

yeah most of mine were like outdoor summer strolling, or other slow environments.

I got literally 0 reply before KJ Francis you dumb monkey you can't even manage basic reading comprehension, fuck off get out of my thread you're a parasite ruining the topic
It's my topic I am the one choosing the topic not you, absolute retarded monkey you are

also if you have a lot of general underlying anger or frustration brewing, it's going to trigger fight or flight response. smile!

try imagining the energy you would feel hugging someone and think of something funny so you enter with a genuine smile and eye contact. If you notice any sense of discomfort on her part quickly say a statement of empathy or false time constraint. And speak louder, slower, and with a down-tone.

 

[ChrisXKiss]

Tldr
Care answering the topic's question???

I am trying to, but I cannot answer your question if you don’t read my post, so we can agree on what a blowout is.

 

[Chase]

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Asked him to make sure he has read this thread:

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[ulrich]

Seems like @domran321 is out of the conversation for the time being but I’ll leave this here for him to ponder.

My blowout ratio in daygame is zero. I never get blowouts.
This is because I have mastered the way to do approaches feel relevant and discreet and I always add value.
This is not coincidence, its skill.

On the other side of the same coin, my blowout ratio in nightgame is probably 60%.
Nightgame is much more hit and miss and I have never mastered it either.

TLDR, it greatly depends on the circumstances and your skill level.
Comparing numbers without giving context might lead to useless conclusions.

 

[Will_V]

To perhaps add some clarification to what the thread is about, I believe 'blowout' here was meant to be defined as anything that doesn't turn into a conversation (bold is mine):

What's your blowout to approach ratio?
I feel like mine is way too bad, I have 1 real conversation with about only 10% the girls I approach

If this is correct, it could simply mean 'anything that doesn't go beyond a few seconds', like a street stop where she slows down for a moment and then decides to keep going. I didn't see anything specifying that @domran321 meant really negative reactions, or girls running away swinging their handbags and screaming like she just got approached by Gollum.

Girls who don't engage for whatever reason, I don't see as a big deal. Sometimes she's simply not ready for what you have to offer. Although if it happens a lot, it indicates a problem with a guy's fundamentals.

 

[average_daygamer]

The blowout ratio depends on what you define as a "set". If it is a hot girl steaming down the high street on the phone carrying a load of shopping bags, I am at the point in my day time approach career where I don't even consider that as a set. Whereas if you want to go for the approach, the likelihood of it being a blowout is a log higher than a girl relaxedly walking along wearing a flowery summer's dress on a sunny day.

 

[Atlas IV]

Since OP clearly has some serious anger management issues, it's not surprising he's getting 90% blowouts with girls.

If this is how he reacts to strangers on a forum, I can only imagine what kind of person he's like in real life.

 

[Will_V]

The blowout ratio depends on what you define as a "set". If it is a hot girl steaming down the high street on the phone carrying a load of shopping bags, I am at the point in my day time approach career where I don't even consider that as a set. Whereas if you want to go for the approach, the likelihood of it being a blowout is a log higher than a girl relaxedly walking along wearing a flowery summer's dress on a sunny day.

And there are also times when you want to stretch yourself, learn something new, try to create something in a more difficult situation out of your comfort zone. And it's harder to do successfully. But that's ok.

The choice of what opportunity to take and how to approach it is a personal thing, what matters is that at the end of the day you are happy with yourself and learning something, and improving over time.

 

[bkw]

Since OP clearly has some serious anger management issues, it's not surprising he's getting 90% blowouts with girls.

If this is how he reacts to strangers on a forum, I can only imagine what kind of person he's like in real life.

My thoughts exactly. However, I get it. He’s frustrated, and then more frustrated people are t giving him the exact answer he wants, even if a lot of the answers not giving exact stats are trying to tell him that it changes depending on so many things. It can change day-to-day even depending on various factors.

I could tell him I get blow out 5/10 times, but then tomorrow every girl hooks, etc. What is more important os WHY you might be getting blown out.

Personally, I count blowouts as harsh rejections, and not the typical “friendly” rejections. I don’t count blowouts as I count them as typical rejections overall. So if I get 2 friendly rejections and 2 blowouts I will count it as 4 rejections.

 

[Chase]

Personally, I count blowouts as harsh rejections, and not the typical “friendly” rejections. I don’t count blowouts as I count them as typical rejections overall. So if I get 2 friendly rejections and 2 blowouts I will count it as 4 rejections.

Right, that is what a blow out is. This is a well-defined term in the seduction community.

OP doesn't help his thread's case by attempting to redefine the term here.

Just leads to an even more muddled thread where different people are answering differently, some understanding what he's driving at (i.e., failure to reach the hook point), some thinking he actually MEANS "blow out" (e.g., "Get lost creep!").

Far clearer thread would have been "What percent of approaches do you hook?"

Chase

 

[iceberg slim]

If by blowout you mean the kind of nastiness you showed in your comment, very close to zero percent. If you mean a brisk "not interested" then it's well under 10%.

it's usually when I make the mistake of approaching a girl not because I find her really attractive but just because she's there. These girls seem to know exactly what's up.

Facts.

Fix your attitude first before worrying about blowouts.