Can never last over 4 minutes first round

[Kaida]

Idk if its just me, but lasting a long time (45+ minutes) on my very first round of sex seems almost impossible. I blow in under 5 minutes almost every time first round. And even if I do the stop and start method I can never keep plowing for over a minute before I have to stop myself from busting.

In rounds after the first I can go crazy and do 40 minutes sometimes, but its just the first that gets me.

I’m starting to realize this may be a very important problem to fix since it takes a lot of my passion out of the sex. I just start to get bored.

If I blow fast first round, its like every round after that I’m just going through the motions and the sex isn’t as enjoyable. I sometimes even stop after around 35 minutes because I just get bored and tired of plowing, even if I know I could get the girl off more if I do.

But I know if I can learn to drag that first round out for a long time, my sex would be so much better since I got that first nut as my carrot on the stick keeping me going. And I’m sure my subsequent rounds would benefit immensely as well.

I’ve tried:

- Stop and start method

- Masturbation training with porn (might need more training to see results, but so far its not working at all lol)

Any tips guys?


(Hey @DoWhatWorks I think I remember you posting something exactly like this a while ago… you ever fix it man?)

 

[Kvothe]

how long are your intervals between ejaculation (masturbatory or sex)

 

[Kaida]

how long are your intervals between ejaculation (masturbatory or sex)

If I wanted to be as quick as possible I could likely cum nearly 2x in a row (1-3 minute interval) but I like letting myself calm down and letting the sexual energy build back up

And typically its longer than that since I dont want the second round to be short

 

[Skills]

Atmosphere - Dick hardness and cum control

cum control and hardness are important... specially during the 3 sex times sex rule, again: - one time sex means nothing now a days - two times you hook - 3 times you lock.... In theory that is how it works if things are done right(the better seducers can shorten time in theory), if not it may...

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[Kvothe]

If I wanted to be as quick as possible I could likely cum nearly 2x in a row (1-3 minute interval) but I like letting myself calm down and letting the sexual energy build back up

And typically its longer than that since I dont want the second round to be short

I more meant how frequently are you ejaculating. I know you were doing some of the semen retention stuff

 

[Kaida]

I more meant how frequently are you ejaculating. I know you were doing some of the semen retention stuff

I dont really masturbate anymore (other than those 2 times I was trying to train before I made this post)

Having sex maybe once every 7-12 days

 

[Kvothe]

I dont really masturbate anymore (other than those 2 times I was trying to train before I made this post)

Having sex maybe once every 7-12 days

maybe try jacking off a little more frequently-i found that doing that solved the first round too short lasting for me

 

[KJ Francis]

I dont really masturbate anymore (other than those 2 times I was trying to train before I made this post)

Having sex maybe once every 7-12 days

Yeah that may not be enough. Your body is going to want to cum fast after that. Other than simple buildup of gas in the tank, my theory is gene spreading, just like you cum fast with a new girl.

I would recommend getting a fuck buddy (or more) who is extra into you and has a high sex drive, even if you are less into her than other girls. Like someone who is thirsting for your cock at all times and you can booty call at will. Someone who sees you as way better than her other options.

I will literally go bang one out in the backseat a couple days before seeing other girls to time this. If you can get a little rotation going seeing 2-4 girls a week, you may desentitize your dick physical sensitivity and psyche. Again total unfounded theory, but maybe if you're seeing the same girls for a while your body is not going to waste its cum on a rock solid locked in partner.

I used to cum fast and then it went to where I was having long sex sessions with two girls in a week without cumming at all, and then would cum with the third one that week, for example. No techniques, just more sex. One girl I fucked a solid five separate days before I ever came with her. But I did with another girl the day before where I had no worries about busting too quick with her.

 

[Teevster]

Idk if its just me, but lasting a long time (45+ minutes) on my very first round of sex seems almost impossible. I blow in under 5 minutes almost every time first round. And even if I do the stop and start method I can never keep plowing for over a minute before I have to stop myself from busting.

Hey Kaida.

Have you tried this? This is how I do it. I think the whole idea of holding your cum back is retarded. If you feel it cumming, just STOP and take a break and use the time to do something else - going down on her, finger her, yeah whatever. It not only leaves her wanting more - which increases her chances of orgasms, but you drag it out and the more often you do it within that same sex session, the longer it will take before you "feel it cumming" again as you have primed your dick not to cum (yet). That trick has worked for me since 2010 and resolved the problem of premature ejaculation. I learned the trick from a gay prostitute who told me about it.

He used this trick to be able to have insanely long sessions, as he was having group sex in Saunas and did not want to "stop" early.

-Teevster

 

[Kaida]

Hey Kaida.

Have you tried this? This is how I do it. I think the whole idea of holding your cum back is retarded. If you feel it cumming, just STOP and take a break and use the time to do something else - going down on her, finger her, yeah whatever. It not only leaves her wanting more - which increases her chances of orgasms, but you drag it out and the more often you do it within that same sex session, the longer it will take before you "feel it cumming" again as you have primed your dick not to cum (yet). That trick has worked for me since 2010 and resolved the problem of premature ejaculation. I learned the trick from a gay prostitute who told me about it.

He used this trick to be able to have insanely long sessions, as he was having group sex in Saunas and did not want to "stop" early.

-Teevster

I’m gonna try this next time.

I think I did before but Id always still blow. Its weird, I’ll pull out when I’m 8/10 towards the edge but it’s like my muscles lose control and I’ll reach 10/10 even while pulled out. Might be psychological.

I’ll be more careful next time to keep farther from the edge next time

 

[Chase]

I think I did before but Id always still blow. Its weird, I’ll pull out when I’m 8/10 towards the edge but it’s like my muscles lose control and I’ll reach 10/10 even while pulled out. Might be psychological.

It's psychological.

The brain is fully in control of ejaculation. It's how you can splooge in your sleep in a wet dream without anything even touching your dick.

Try paying attention to what thoughts/feelings are running through your head in the run-up to and during ejaculation.

You'll start to notice patterns (e.g., "OMG, this feels so good... OMG no I can't cum! I have to control it! Aaaaarggghhh!!!" ). Once you know what the patterns are, you can then compare that to what's going through your head when you are NOT cumming (e.g., "Haha, this girl is taking this dick like a champ. I could plow her like this all day!").

The goal is to learn to control the mind enough that you can at least not go full "Oh no I'm going to cum" most of the time. Or at least to be able to calm down when you want to.

(my recommendation -- and I think this might be @Teevster's as well in that article of his -- is that you do NOT pull out, but rather just stop entirely inside her and calm down. If she keeps moving/writhing you need to just tell her "Stop moving" so she doesn't push you over the edge. If you bust at 8/10 then you need to stop at 7/10, etc. After enough stop-and-starts you'll usually stop needing to cum so bad and can go for a long time)

Chase

 

[Chase]

I dont really masturbate anymore (other than those 2 times I was trying to train before I made this post)

Having sex maybe once every 7-12 days

Cumming quick after no ejaculation for a week+ is normal, btw.

Rather than beat yourself up over Round 1 you can just tell girls, "It's been a little while for me so I might not last as long the first round. I'll be ready to go in Round 2 though." Then you're pacing them for what's to come and it's fine.

 

[KJ Francis]

Lol in the sex god method book, he recommends forcing breaks on her as a dominance technique. There's a story of how he stopped during sex because he remembered a restaurant was closing soon, then pulled out and forced her to go to dinner. Once I did this and went to the kitchen and cooked a small meal lol she wasn't hungry and didn't eat (just watched) and it did actually make her go wild when we were back to it.

So I guess you can stay still inside her, eat her out, or eat some dinner.

Saw this recently too:

It has been observed that in certain species, males allocate sperm differently due to the Coolidge effect.[17] The allocation is usually according to level of sperm competition, female novelty, and female reproductive quality.[17]

However, the takeaway from the experiment performed was that in male-male competition of the Rhodeus amarus, the dominant male will allocate more sperm when a novel mussel is present, while the subordinate male conserved its sperm until a proper opportunity came where it had a better chance of fertilization.[17]

The experiment found that male fowls reduce sperm investment in particular females they've encountered already, but increase sperm investment instantaneously if they encountered a new female.[18]

Wedell et al. suggest a theory that when a male allocates sperm so that he can save sperm for novel partners, he limits himself and the mate by possibly investing too little sperm to their partners which in return can inseminate only a few eggs therefore making reproduction less successful.[19] This could even possibly force females to seek more copulation to ensure successful reproduction.[20]

Overall, it is typically seen that allocation changes due to male-male competition and whether a novel partner is encountered or not.[22][23][24]

Seems more so about volume than speed, but I wonder how much is "new high-competition hottie... Must inseminate asap!"