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PinotNoir

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Well, this is my first LR, so I made it super long -- my apologies. I've been too embarrassed to post my other lays because took tons of dates until finally had sex haha.

EDIT: The days below relate to this week. So Monday is Oct 6th. It was a quick 2 date lay (well, 3 if you count day+night) :)

Monday - Met
Met on WeChat app, which is a Chinese messaging app that lets you find people nearby. I try to play all of the fields now. I used to stay away from internet-related stuff, but because I mainly like Asian girls and they are scarce where I live, I've been doing day game, apps, and traveling to my friends' city where there are tons (I had a first date this past weekend there that went really well, but no sex). To put this in perspective, I've used WeChat for almost a year, and I've only gotten 5 dates from it, while I've gotten about triple that amount by just traveling to my friends' city and doing day game. The main benefit for the app is that they're local. When I do day game locally, I see about 1 Asian girl per week, and because they're novel and scarce, they usually have boyfriends/husbands. Luckily, I'll be moving in January in with my friend and his city and out of my parent's place.

Tuesday - First Date
She works odd hours, so I get some resistance to meeting up. She throws me a bunch of excuses like "but it will be too late at night" and stuff like that. However, I notice that she is never directly saying "no," but just keeps throwing up excuses. I've dealt with this before and is pretty easy to circumvent now. After several messages, she finally agrees to meet up tonight. Other guys might see this as chasing, but if she's not directly saying "no," then I just see it as persisting and being a man of opportunity.

Decided to keep it simple. Invited her to meet at Starbucks. She's not that familiar with the area and couldn't find the place, so I tell her to just name a place close to her. She tells me a Walmart near her. I show up and walk around inside. I don't see her anywhere (but, I've never seen her in person before, only pics). I message her, but she never responds. I buy a couple of things I needed anyway and so that I don't look like a weirdo. I'm pretty frustrated at this point, so I drive to Starbucks anyway to unwind.

She texts me and tells me that she couldn't get service in the Walmart. I'm pretty heated at this point because I'm not sure if she's flaking on me or what, so I grab a coffee and walk around outside for a bit and enjoy the bright moon. I just cool down and let myself relax. You never want to do something regretful like send heated text messages.

I go back to messaging her, and she says that she is back home now. She puts up some more resistance because she doesn't know the area. So, I just suggest that I come by and pick her up, and if she's worried because I'm a stranger, I can just meet her at the end of some street. She agrees. I drive to the end of a street (that she tells me) and meets me there.

I get out and hug her. We drive to the movies because I couldn't think of anything else good, but it's too late on a Tuesday night -- nothing is playing. So then I drive to a local bar. I bought her a glass of red wine, and I ended up having 2 beers. The date is super easy because she's extremely talkative. I basically just sit back and relax, while listening to her and probing. I keep staring at her lips, and I stare at her breasts a bit too since her shirt is pushing them out. When you're strangers, looking at a girl's breasts is creepy. But, when you're on a date and/or you know the girl is interested, looking at her breasts and checking out her body just turns her on.

Based on her and the conversation, I think she's very sweet-conservative-shy girl. I still talk sexual, but not as much as I usually do. She talks about how she was always first in her class in high school and college, so I kind of up-play the "jock image" (even though I'm not) by saying I run races a lot (thanks to Chase for his FR that did a similar thing where you up-play the jock image for girls that were once nerdy, since they probably have a fantasy about jock-like guys that they never had).

I drive her back to her place. I ask if I can come up. She says, "To do what?" I say to watch TV, but she says that she doesn't have a TV. Then I say to just play a card game or something, but she says she doesn't have a card game. Again, she's not saying "no" -- key point, but I run out of ideas, and she just says "some other night then."

I get out of my car and hug her and kiss her on the cheek. In my mind, she's still this shy girl, so I just say while still hugging her, "I'd like to kiss you." I do this for shy girls sometimes, but I never ask, just put it in the form of a statement. She says "ok." I kiss her on the lips, and she forces her tongue in. We kiss a bit longer. I pull away and then slide my hand down her cheek and through her hair and wish her goodnight. She does the same, and we part.

I get home at 3am. Damn. The beers disrupt my sleep, and I can't fall asleep until 5am. I have to wake up at 8am for work. This sucks haha.

Wednesday - Day
She agrees to lunch. I pick her up and then drive to Whole Foods. We grab some food from the hot bar and then head to a park. (I already planned this out; I told her to wear jeans or shorts in my messages to her because of grass; she wears some booty shorts.)

We find a nice big tree in the park and sit under it in the grass. She's entranced by the big blue sky and clouds and wonderful weather, so I just see her looking off at everything while sitting. I ask if she just wants to sit a minute before eating, and she says yes, so I take our food and put it to the side. Then I sit next to her and put my arm around her. She leans into me.

Again, conversation is easy because she loves talking haha. I then play the typical game of looking at clouds and trying to say what you think they look like. At some point, I kiss her on the cheek. Then we keep looking at clouds. Then I turn her head softly with my hand and kiss her some more. I'm getting quite the ab workout here holding her up, since we're not propped up against a tree, so we slide down and lie on our backs while cuddling.

She asks me, "Do you think I am a sweet girl?" I say, "Sure, but maybe not. Are you?" She says, "Maybe I'm not such a sweet girl." Things get heated....

She starts making out with me hard. She forces my head down to kiss up and down her neck. This girl loves her neckline and collar kissed. I kiss with and without tongue. After I kiss with tongue on her neck and cheek, I blow on it to her arouse her more. I kiss her ears and pull on them. She's kissing me back, and she bites my cheek and chin....

Not so sweet anymore haha.

She squeezes my butt, so I do the same, but instead I reach under her pants and panties and squeeze her ass. She's moaning against me and breathing heavily, and I can feel her nice tits up against my chest. I'm super hard.

She reaches into my pants and starts stroking my cock.

I look around and see like high school kids running around, so this isn't a good idea haha. I tell her that we probably can't do this here, but I have to be back for work and bad logistics. We can't go to her place because landlord is there, and we can't go to my place (parents). We make out some more, while she's stroking my cock and I'm squeezing her ass and pull her panties up. Finally, I pull her hand out. I don't want kids to catch us and/or get arrested/fined haha. I think she would have had sex right there in front of everyone.

We get back in the car -- food hasn't even been touched. I try to think of somewhere to go so that we can have sex in my car, but at lunch time, it's just too fucking crowded everywhere. While I'm driving her back to her neighborhood, I rub my fingers between her legs on the outside of her shorts. When we get to her neighborhood, I still don't see a place, except for a small section of the street with trees. I stop there for a bit and unbutton her pants. She pulls down her pants and panties. I then finger her for a bit; she's super wet. I then stop and lick the juice off of my finger. We're in the middle of the street, so nothing else can really happen. She pulls her pants and panties back on, and then I drop her off. I get out of my car, and we make out. I grab her ass and breasts a bit while we kiss. Then we say goodbye.

This is like a fucking 3 hour lunch. Luckily, I didn't get fired. I stayed at work until 7pm to finish up.

Wednesday - Night
Well, now it's just a matter of fucking logistics now. Curse you damn logistics!

We're messaging each other trying to figure out a place to have sex. Finally, I decide either in my office or at my brother's place (since he works at night, but I hate to do that to my brother).

After work, I pick her up again. First, we head to my office, but there are 3 cars still in the parking lot, so I decide not to chance it. We drive to my brother's place, luckily he's not home, but his dog is. I bring my sleeping bag in (always have it in my car with some condoms). We go into my brother's room on the floor with the sleeping bag. I close the door so that the dog doesn't come in.

I kiss her hard and take her clothes off. Then I take my clothes off. She's so fucking wet, like dripping all over her panties. I lick her out a bit. Then I put the condom on and give it to her missionary -- as suggested by Chase with arms under her and hands on shoulders. I just slam as hard as I can while focusing on rhythm. I also massage up and down her body and suck on her tits, all of the typical stuff.

Guys, I am fucking tired. This is hard work and quite the exercise when I've had little sleep and worked all day.

Anyway, I pound her for a good while, but I'm sweating everywhere and tired, and she is sweating also. She says I can rest for a bit. She just wants me bad. Even while resting, she's just kissing me all over, putting her nipples in my mouth, etc. She turns her body sideways and puts her tits on my cock. She has her ass propped up, so I just start spanking her ass haha. It's pretty hot.

I put on a new condom. I try to do doggie style, but I just can't get it in properly. This was really sad. I think it's because she has a tight Asian vagina, and I'm just too tired. I ask her to help, but she can't really get it in either.

Instead, we go back to missionary, but this time I pull her right leg up to her body. I pound her some more, and you can hear our bodies slapping up against each other.

I just can't fucking cum. I'm too tired.

I remove the condom and throw it away. We go back to cuddling naked. She still wants it and starts riding me with her vagina smooshed up against my hard cock. I'm squeezing her ass and up and down her body and sucking her tits and kissing her everywhere, etc. You guys get the picture. She's of course moaning, but not a screamer haha. She bites me sometimes on the cheek.

We cuddle some. I ask her to kiss my cock. She goes down and starts sucking it. I'm still too tired to cum, so I ask her to stop and come back up. We do this cuddle-makeout-thing for a long time. Finally, we put clothes back on because I'm worried my brother might show, so we go to the couch and watch TV while cuddling.

The end.
 

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There was something that I wanted to mention that I forgot to write.

While we were cuddling, she kept asking me, "So how many girls do you have sex with per week?" I just laughed. Then she said, "3? 5? 7?" I just kept ignoring the question. Then she said, "I think that's why you were so tired; you just have sex with too many women." Haha, I really don't, but I guess she thinks this; I don't know why. I just never answered.

Also, during sex, she liked tell me to fuck her and asked me if I liked fucking her (girls just love that "fuck" word during sex, makes them feel like a sexual deviant or something).

She also wanted me to not use a condom. She said that she had her period recently and wouldn't get pregnant. I had never heard of this. A couple of days after a girl has her period she cannot get pregnant? That doesn't sound right to me. I think I'll keep using a condom haha.
 

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PN,

First of all, congrats on the lay, bud! It seems like you're really starting to sharpen your skills now and moving more quickly. I'm sure you'll be getting lots of first-date lays in the near future. =)

She said that she had her period recently and wouldn't get pregnant. I had never heard of this. A couple of days after a girl has her period she cannot get pregnant? That doesn't sound right to me. I think I'll keep using a condom haha.

That sounds very misinformed. You're almost better off going condomless while she's ON her period simply because it means she isn't in the part of her cycle where she's quite as likely to get pregnant (which is actually right AFTER her period -- about a week or so from when it first starts). So she actually might have been in her fertile cycle when you two had sex, which is exactly the opposite of what you would have wanted. However, even when a girl is on her period, she can still get pregnant. There's no guarantees or anything.

Poor girl; I hope someone educates her properly!

As far as the condoms... yeah, trust your own instinct. ;)

- Franco
 

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Sounded like a good time! Congrats on the lay.

~Nick
 

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Yes, good on you, she sounds really into it, magic :) It sounds like you have really been putting the hard yards in and consistently developing yourself and that it is paying off. This is really encouraging to new guys like myself. And I agree that there is nothing quite like a sweet bit of Asian totty. Not to denigrate other races of course, its a smorgasbord out there :)
cheers, Ray
PS. If u are ever coming to Aussie then u have a treat in store for u, in my city I'll show u where to go :)
 

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PinotNoir said:
I've been too embarrassed to post my other lays because took tons of dates until finally had sex haha.
I honestly think that it takes more skill to do that at times lol. I very very rarely will see a girl again after a first date and not having sex.

I like the report dude, nothing really to critique to my feeble eye.

It's always cool to get those lays where it's just on like Donkey Kong and you don't really have to find a way into the rabbit hole (or out?.. don't know if that's an expression lol).

Enjoy the easy low hanging fruit my man! (not meaning the girls a slut but the ease of the lay in general.

Oh and be sure to book a one way flight to the east, pimp that Asian pussy ;)

-Rob
 

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Hey guys, thanks everyone for the congrats and replies!

Franco, thanks for confirming this. I'll make sure to keep using condoms haha, and I'll tell her about it. Hopefully, I can convince her.

ray_zorse, wish I could come to Aussie! If it's got sweet Asians that can speak English (or not), I'm always in ;) I'm sure I can go in the future when I have a good job again, currently pursuing my dreams and sitting on my savings, just put my two weeks notice in this month (but my company is awesome, so they are okay that I do part-time for a bit).

Mr. Rob, yes, true man haha. I have been working out for a year and upping my fundamentals, but at the same time, sometimes you just find girls that are horny and/or find you irresistible. She messages me a lot, so I think it was both. I guess sometimes it's just a numbers game.

You guys have any suggestions for good foreplay and/or sexual stuff? Also, any suggestions for doggie style?

She was messaging me that she misses me a lot, so I made sure to go ahead and tell her that I don't think we will ever be in a relationship and/or get married (for various reasons; she wants to live in China again permanently, and we're not very compatible). I didn't want to hurt her feelings and keep leading her on. Thankfully she understands and is okay if we keep having sex and being friends, etc. :)
 

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Mr.Rob said:
I honestly think that it takes more skill to do that at times lol. I very very rarely will see a girl again after a first date and not having sex.

It's very much high risk, low reward. It's not a good strategy or thing to do at all haha, but I have been forced to because of distance for some girls (or they're always busy).

The only way to do it is that you MUST have at least 3 girls (or more) you're dating and talking with. Then you also need to be constantly approaching and meeting new girls (at a moderate amount, don't have to be as hardcore), in case one of the girls falls off so that you can put a new girl in to fill that slot. Most guys (myself in the past) can't do it because usually get stuck on 1 girl, but if you're trying it on with at least 3 while continuously filling up the empty slots, then you become less anxious.

It's still high risk, low reward, like I said, and you have to accept that some guys will most likely slip in there and have sex with her. It's just useful for non-local girls or extremely busy-conservative girls (like works 60+ hours/week) really.

If you don't have to wait or prolong it, then don't.
 
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-PinotNoir

Great work on the lay! I want to bang an ASIAN haha, I have yet to do that ;) A few things i noticed was:

- Good Job on persisting and overcoming her resistance. You noticed she was a little indecisive and you persisted and it payed off!
- Keeping it Simple (Always the way to go ;))
- She seemed really horny during that lunch date haha ;)

Solid work buddy! Keep the lay's coming ;)

- Rdawg
 

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Nice lay, Pinot. Some thoughts:

PinotNoir said:
When I do day game locally, I see about 1 Asian girl per week, and because they're novel and scarce, they usually have boyfriends/husbands. Luckily, I'll be moving in January in with my friend and his city and out of my parent's place.

Not sure what line of work you're in or what your financial situation looks like, but if you like Asian girls, why not try taking the odd trip out to Asia here and there?

When I was still working a 9-to-5, I'd use my vacation time to take 2 or 3 international trips each year - Asia, Europe, South America, the Caribbean. You can do it without racking up huge expenses, either: roundtrip tickets to a bunch of places in Asia or Europe from most U.S. cities can be had for under $1,000, and there are plenty of ways to do things on the cheap once there: find people to crash with (might be able to find some on the boards here; or you can try Couch Surfing or a similar site), or stay at a hostel; eat street food to keep food expenses low; stick to day game if you don't want to pay entrance fees and drink prices at the bars; pick a place with good public transport or low prices so you're not burning through money on cabs.

A little travel can really open your eyes. Girls that seem scarce in one place are downright abundant in others - it's all location.

PinotNoir said:
She texts me and tells me that she couldn't get service in the Walmart. I'm pretty heated at this point because I'm not sure if she's flaking on me or what, so I grab a coffee and walk around outside for a bit and enjoy the bright moon. I just cool down and let myself relax. You never want to do something regretful like send heated text messages.

I go back to messaging her, and she says that she is back home now. She puts up some more resistance because she doesn't know the area. So, I just suggest that I come by and pick her up, and if she's worried because I'm a stranger, I can just meet her at the end of some street. She agrees. I drive to the end of a street (that she tells me) and meets me there.

Great job handling this.

You'll sometimes have girls completely flake on a date, but it's because they were genuinely confused or made some kind of bizarre flip-flop decision - especially inexperienced girls. The only thing to do here is to keep calm and text when you have a cool head, not heated.

This was a big fork in the road in this report; had you sent something snippy the lay may never have happened.

PinotNoir said:
I drive her back to her place. I ask if I can come up. She says, "To do what?" I say to watch TV, but she says that she doesn't have a TV. Then I say to just play a card game or something, but she says she doesn't have a card game. Again, she's not saying "no" -- key point, but I run out of ideas, and she just says "some other night then."

Funny!

Next time, use this: "I just need to use the bathroom" or "Can I have a glass of water?"

PinotNoir said:
I get out of my car and hug her and kiss her on the cheek. In my mind, she's still this shy girl, so I just say while still hugging her, "I'd like to kiss you." I do this for shy girls sometimes, but I never ask, just put it in the form of a statement. She says "ok." I kiss her on the lips, and she forces her tongue in. We kiss a bit longer. I pull away and then slide my hand down her cheek and through her hair and wish her goodnight. She does the same, and we part.

Sounds like you unleashed a tiger.

PinotNoir said:
She asks me, "Do you think I am a sweet girl?" I say, "Sure, but maybe not. Are you?" She says, "Maybe I'm not such a sweet girl." Things get heated....

Great response from you here. Way to combine a yes and a no in a vague non-answer and then turn it right back on her.

PinotNoir said:
We make out some more, while she's stroking my cock and I'm squeezing her ass and pull her panties up. Finally, I pull her hand out. I don't want kids to catch us and/or get arrested/fined haha. I think she would have had sex right there in front of everyone.

It's the "stranger in a strange land" phenomenon - when a girl's in a foreign city with few or no social ties and no family ties, and she meets a man she finds sexy and has completely ruled out as a boyfriend candidate, she can lose basically all fear of social repercussions and will pursue sex with reckless, hedonistic abandon.

It's basically just her casting off the usual mantle of fear of social repercussion and reputation destruction most women carry about themselves at all times and saying, "You know what? No one knows me here; I'm not staying here; no word of this can ever get back to anyone else; and this guy is sexy but not someone who is long-term for me. Why don't I just BE FREE?"

Some of the most passionate, hedonistic sex you'll have will be with women having this "stranger in a strange land" effect going on - girls on vacation, women who are working in some big city at a job they don't really like and without a social circle or family ties, new girls who've just moved to a new city or country and feel like they are completely unknown and anonymous there. Loads of fun - it's just raw, unfiltered, and pure.

PinotNoir said:
Anyway, I pound her for a good while, but I'm sweating everywhere and tired, and she is sweating also. She says I can rest for a bit. She just wants me bad. Even while resting, she's just kissing me all over, putting her nipples in my mouth, etc. She turns her body sideways and puts her tits on my cock. She has her ass propped up, so I just start spanking her ass haha. It's pretty hot.

I put on a new condom. I try to do doggie style, but I just can't get it in properly. This was really sad. I think it's because she has a tight Asian vagina, and I'm just too tired. I ask her to help, but she can't really get it in either.

Tons of fun. I'm guessing she was a lot shorter than you?

The height difference can make rear entry a lot harder (assuming it's that) - it can be impossible standing up and quite difficult even with her on all fours and you on your knees behind her if she's short enough.

If you can prop her up with pillows under her knees that can make it easier to gain entry (and not as hard on your member once you're in), since that positions her rear higher up.

An alternate strategy is getting on all fours yourself over her... essentially, you start out on your knees behind her, and then lean forward until your stomach is hovering over her back with your arms on either side of her. This shifts the angle of your cock and lines it up more with her pussy at a height closer to the height her pussy is at.

Other things to try: make sure her back is arched (push down on the small of her back and tell it to arch it if not - her back should be in a "u" shape, with her shoulders and her rump higher and the small of her back arching down lower), and also try splaying your knees out a little farther from each other to lower the height of your pelvis.

PinotNoir said:
She was messaging me that she misses me a lot, so I made sure to go ahead and tell her that I don't think we will ever be in a relationship and/or get married (for various reasons; she wants to live in China again permanently, and we're not very compatible). I didn't want to hurt her feelings and keep leading her on. Thankfully she understands and is okay if we keep having sex and being friends, etc. :)

Yeah - she doesn't see you as a boyfriend at all... just as her really sexy foreign adventure.

Sounds like you'll have a lot of fun with her. Enjoy, Pinot - you've earned it!

Chase
 

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Congrats on the lay PN! Very smooth and calm in the way u handled her texts in the beginning. Handled it like a seasoned pro! Glad u sorted out the logistic in the end ;)

- Smith
 

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RDawg said:
Great work on the lay! I want to bang an ASIAN haha, I have yet to do that ;)

Haha, yeah, it's all about numbers really. How many Asian women did you ask out last month? That's how I started, and I just improved that number every month, while improving everything else.

I have a mixed friend (half-white/half-black) that was complaining to me just last week, "Man, it's so hard for me to date white women as a mixed guy." I did tell him that it is probably a bit harder because of stereotypes, but then I asked him, "How many white women did you ask out last month?" The answer was 0. 0 women asked out = 0 chances. It's simple.


Chase,

Thanks again for the awesome, detailed, and long response!

Yes, I definitely need to travel Asia more. I've only been to Japan once, and I think what was holding me back was that I didn't want to be perceived as the typical "American/foreign pig" that's disrespectful. I did dance and kiss a woman and got a few emails, but nothing beyond that (limited time each day).

Right now, I'm pursuing more of my "dream job" and other things in my life besides my current profession, so money will be tight once I'm completely done with my current job at the end of December (already talked to boss about last day). If all fails, I do plan on trying to teach in Japan as my backup. Also, in January, I will be moving to a city with more Asian women :)

I know some people on the boards disagree with moving to a new location for women, but if you're unhappy with your love life, then I don't see it as a big deal, as long as there are enough other factors about the place that also make you interested. If you're crying yourself to sleep every night, maybe you should move.

Chase said:
Next time, use this: "I just need to use the bathroom" or "Can I have a glass of water?"

I'll remember this!

Chase said:
It's the "stranger in a strange land" phenomenon...

Yeah, I definitely get this now. It's almost like all of her conservative background and culture boiled to the surface and all over me haha. She says that she feels so restricted in her home country and that she can feel free to express her true self in the USA (i.e., sexual interest in me).

I've definitely experienced this by going to new cities, as it makes approaching and asking out women SUPER easy. I suggest all new guys to give it a try, especially if they're having Approach Anxiety. It just mentally unclogs you.

Chase said:
I'm guessing she was a lot shorter than you?

The height difference can make rear entry a lot harder (assuming it's that) - it can be impossible standing up and quite difficult even with her on all fours and you on your knees behind her if she's short enough.

If you can prop her up with pillows under her knees that can make it easier to gain entry (and not as hard on your member once you're in), since that positions her rear higher up.

An alternate strategy is getting on all fours yourself over her... essentially, you start out on your knees behind her, and then lean forward until your stomach is hovering over her back with your arms on either side of her. This shifts the angle of your cock and lines it up more with her pussy at a height closer to the height her pussy is at.

Other things to try: make sure her back is arched (push down on the small of her back and tell it to arch it if not - her back should be in a "u" shape, with her shoulders and her rump higher and the small of her back arching down lower), and also try splaying your knees out a little farther from each other to lower the height of your pelvis.

Yep, hit the nail on the head. She's like 5'3-ish (not sure), and I'm 6'.

I tried your suggestion with the pillow (during sex, she'll do anything I say/ask), and I was able to get it in the next time we had sex. Also, I first fingered her a bit from behind before inserting, and this helped I think. It was still pretty difficult, and I ended up just going back to missionary after a while.


Well, it's been fun having her as a sexual partner for a while. I booked a hotel at a lake and pretty much involved us having sex the entire time, and then she booked the next hotel near the airport before she left.

She's back in China now and will be coming back in January. I'm still a bit worried, as she keeps saying "I miss you" and stuff to me a lot, so it's probably good that she's back in China for a bit. I think it should be fine though, since I've explicitly told her that I don't want a relationship with her. It was also getting me a bit lazy with women, as I haven't asked out any new girls in the past 3 weeks since I've known her. I've still got a couple of girls lined up in my friend's city that I need to go on a date with soon.

Thanks again guys for the replies. I think this quick sex has helped myself mentally to know that I can do it now. Hopefully, I get some more quick ones in the future.
 
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