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saxman92

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I've read Girls Chase and the forums for a while, but since I'm in a time of particular tumult, I feel the need for some advice and straight-talk.

I am a sophomore at a mid-size college in the Midwest. I was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome at age 7, but as I've grown out of some of my symptoms, I realize I have more of a mix of OCD and Social Anxiety. I tend to be a bit of a narcissist, only because I have the need to butter myself up because of my lack of ability with the fairer sex; this also leads to low self esteem. My college experience so far has been underwhelming. My social life is lacking, and people don't seem to get back to me when I try to hang out or want to party with them. I'm a virgin, and I've kissed exactly one girl (who was not my type). I want to lose 20 pounds (though I can fit into slim jeans and pants) and gain more muscle. I am a music major and play the tenor saxophone. Even though it's my passion, it seems to be a nerdy detractor to women rather than something intriguing.

Because of my scenario, I have some questions:

1. My psychologist told to stop focusing on sex and start focusing on myself, and to just be myself. At times, I've realized I really like who I am, but still feel girls don't like me for who I am. I also think of sex constantly. Does this pattern of thinking hurt rather than help me? How can I turn it into something positive and constructive?

2. I've had trouble letting go of the "Bad Boy" image I so desire to cultivate. I've realized that it doesn't fit who I am, but I'm also not a "nice guy", except when I become anxious around women. The problem is, I feel girls only will fuck "Bad Boys". I feel I'm much closer to the Byronic Hero mentioned in recent posts, someone who may have some "Bad Boy" elements, but also has a heart. How can I tap into and cultivate my Byronic traits? Would this work in a college setting? Would it be changing who I truly am too much?

3. How do I use my passion for playing the saxophone as a positive rather than feel that women think it's nerdy and square?

4. How do I build my social circle? I know joining clubs is important, but I have a hard time finding groups I want to join, and become paralyzed when thinking about walking in randomly as a new member. I want deeper friendships with people in my classes (fellow music majors I see daily), but I feel they don't want them or don't like me.

5. How do I lose my virginity? I know it's unhealthy to pursue sex in this way, but I'm 20 and feel it's a huge stigma and that girls can sense it. How do I not let my virginity impact my confidence, ability, or chances of getting laid?

6. I am admittedly very smart, and I feel this puts me at a disadvantage with females. What are some tips to use my intelligence to my advantage, and how do I turn it off when needed (i.e. intellectualizing and over-analyzing every interaction with everyone)?

7. My classes are pussy goldmines. How do I capitalize on this?

8. I don't know jack shit about how to talk to girls who glance and smile at me in the halls, class, or coffee shop. I want to talk, hang out, and sleep with these girls. Ideally I would create a harem of pretty girls at my beck and call, but I'd also be satisfied with several fuck buddies, a few one night stands, and an open relationship with a girl who's truly cool, and I know I will never come close to achieving any of these goals and desires if I can't muster a simple "hello" to the hottie sitting behind me in Philosophy. How do I capitalize on these opportunities? What are good things to talk about with girls, that make them interested in me and that make them wetter than Niagara Falls?

9. Who are some role models I should look up to on how to live my life? Hank Moody is my current hero (I'm a massive Californication fan), but is trying to live like him trying to be too much of a "Bad Boy"? I want to live a live of adventure, crazy stories; I want to embrace and celebrate myself and go against the status quo. Many people exist, few live. People I look up to in that regard include Hunter S. Thompson, Jack Kerouac, Nick Tosches, Steve McQueen, and Glenn O'Brien. Are these good role models, and do they embody the lifestyle I want to have? Who are other good role models who live an adventurous, full life on their terms?

I look forward to what you have to say.
 

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Hi saxman92, welcome to the boards.

Here's my two cents...

saxman92 said:
I tend to be a bit of a narcissist, only because I have the need to butter myself up because of my lack of ability with the fairer sex; this also leads to low self esteem. My college experience so far has been underwhelming. My social life is lacking, and people don't seem to get back to me when I try to hang out or want to party with them.

https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-make-friends-master-key-new-friendships
https://www.girlschase.com/content/guy-talk-heres-how-kick-butt-talking-other-men
https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-not-be-creepy-guy

As far as friends, I don't think I'll be much help. For some reason, I've just always been really lucky in my life in this regard. I changed high schools and formed great friendships; I went to a different college than any of my high school friends and formed great friendships; and then I got a career away from all of my high school and college friends and formed great friendships. You'd think I'd be an expert, but because it's always been so natural, I really don't even know what it's like not being able to get friends.

The only insight I can give is with people that I know struggling to get friends that I always push away a bit.

  • Too much arrogance. I've actually had some great arrogant friends, but they were never *too* arrogant. They still gave people compliments, realized their weaknesses, and didn't try to pretend to know everything. Even if a regular arrogant guy saw you playing sax (and they sucked at it), they would say, "Man, you kill it on the sax. I wish I could play music that well." An extreme arrogant person that has never played the sax would say, "Eh, that's so simple. If I took classes, I could be that good in a week. (Saying this with a serious tone, not joking.)". Confidence is good, but don't be too arrogant. I know you mentioned the narcissism, just try to tone it down if you can. This is pretty crucial when first meeting someone. However, the longer you know someone the more arrogance you can get away with I've learned.
  • Laughing too much or something "weird" about your social behavior. This can be a hard one to figure out and is mainly learned from socializing (but how can you learn if people don't even give you the chance to socialize? classic chicken/egg problem). Try not to laugh too loudly or weirdly, especially if the joke isn't that funny. Try to mirror the people and the energy around you. If everyone is chill and you're screaming your head off, you'll be the weird one. Guys don't want to be around guys that will make them also appear poorly -- judged by association -- especially when around women.
  • Not listening or talking too much. Yeah, I talk too much on the forums (like this post) :p, but I keep it pretty short in real life. Actually listen to the person, i.e., remember what they said. With girls, it may be good to act aloof, but don't do that when talking with guys. However, you can act aloof if you actually listen to what they say -- but I don't recommend it starting out. Continue on a topic they said or repeat something they said later in the conversation. Example: (Beginning of conversation) Guy: "Man, I hate roaches." (Go on long conversation talking about something else and then start talking about science fiction.) You: "Yeah, I love SciFi. I imagine you avoid the ones dealing with killer mutant roaches?" Just something simple like that. Keep a balance of sharing information and asking questions. If a guy asks me like 20 questions without saying anything about himself, it's just odd -- Is this a fucking interview?
  • Racism or something the individual/group strongly disagree with. It's 100% fine to disagree, but if it's something that others strongly disagree with, try to avoid it. There's this one guy that I know that says racist jokes every now and then. My friends and I just go silent or say the typical, "That's not cool, man." Yet, he still says a racist joke every now and then. Guess what? We avoid him like the plague and never invite him to anything. If there's a group of mostly vegans, avoid talking about butchering cows and how much you love meat. However, if it's a mix of vegans and meat-eaters, then you can joke with the meat-eaters about the vegans or with the vegans about the meat-eaters. It all depends on the group or individual on what's acceptable. And if you strongly disagree with something that a group partakes in, then I suggest looking for other friends. There's tons of people out there. Edit: religion (or lack of) is another great one to add here.

Surely, there are some friends in band that you can be-friend (already have common interests)? There's always someone sitting around alone at college wanting to do something. I hung around a pretty eclectic mix in college just because of this. Even if a guy/girl has 100 friends, there's going to be a night when he/she wants to do something and none of his/her friends do. So instead, they walk around campus, go to the library, etc.

saxman92 said:
1. My psychologist told to stop focusing on sex and start focusing on myself, and to just be myself. At times, I've realized I really like who I am, but still feel girls don't like me for who I am. I also think of sex constantly. Does this pattern of thinking hurt rather than help me? How can I turn it into something positive and constructive?

From experience, once you start actually pursuing a girl that is interested in you, all of that "sex energy" gets transferred to "pursuing energy." Guys will masturbate and think about sex the most when the most alone: no friends, no lovers, and depressed. Once you actually go out there realizing that you can change this and actually get some real action, you stop. It's like a switch in your brain, "Hey, I can actually get laid. I need to put all of this sexual energy into trying to better improve myself and approaching women." I highly suggest doing the Newbie Assignment; I think that could help.

saxman92 said:
2. I've had trouble letting go of the "Bad Boy" image I so desire to cultivate. I've realized that it doesn't fit who I am, but I'm also not a "nice guy", except when I become anxious around women. The problem is, I feel girls only will fuck "Bad Boys". I feel I'm much closer to the Byronic Hero mentioned in recent posts, someone who may have some "Bad Boy" elements, but also has a heart. How can I tap into and cultivate my Byronic traits? Would this work in a college setting? Would it be changing who I truly am too much?

I've been trying to work on this as well. First step, stop saying "sorry" or "excuse me" as much. Just for a week, never say "sorry" or "excuse me." I find saying "no problem" or "don't worry about it" or "don't mention it" good replacements. In this way, you can still be sorry but without saying it. You can even just say "sure" or smile or nod. In this sense, it won't be changing who you are too much, since you'll still be "nice" but just not in a "nice guy" way.

"Nice Guy":
*girl bumps into guy*
Guy: "Oh god, so sorry. Are you okay?"...blah blah blah, makes me sick and the girl sick

"Bad Guy":
*girl bumps into guy*
*guy thinks, "hey, she bumped into me. why would I be sorry? why *should* I be sorry? just because I'm a guy and society says I should be?*
*guy doesn't say a damn thing and locks eyes with girl*
Girl: "Gosh, I'm sorry!"
*guy just gives a half-smile*
Guy: "Like you could hurt me."

saxman92 said:
3. How do I use my passion for playing the saxophone as a positive rather than feel that women think it's nerdy and square?

This can be tough, unless you can play at clubs. I'd suggest mirroring all of the guys that sit outside playing guitar. They dress edgy and look edgy and may have a group of friends around them. You may want to wait until you got a group of friends. In conversation, don't apologize for this though or say that it's nerdy. Just talk about it casually like everyone knows it's cool and that it's your passion.

"You play any instruments?"
"Yeah, a tenor sax. I love the low rumble compared to altos -- makes it grainier and richer -- but not too low like a baritone. You play anything?"

(I'm reminded of Jay on the boards here.) It's just a fucking sax; they can get over it. It doesn't make you who you are. You make yourself who you are.



That took me a while to write; I'll get back to you on the rest of the points as I have other stuff to do today/tomorrow. I hope this helped in some way.
 
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