Could the Tates know what they're talking about when it comes to women?

[Kaida]

I'm glad someone has the patience to listen to them and call out the BS they are spitting. Then I know to skip them next time their videos pop up randomly and not trust these "know it all 'alpha-male'" scammers

lol I agree that they shouldn’t be listened to when it comes to women.

When it comes to things like money and mindset, they give very sound advice I’d say. Tate was raised in a council estate in the poorest city in London. Came from basically nothing. Now he has 500M+ net worth.

Theres value in listening to Tate imo. Even if its just to analyze their excellent persuasive skills and not their money / mindset advice

 

[Lover]

lol I agree that they shouldn’t be listened to when it comes to women.

When it comes to things like money and mindset, they give very sound advice I’d say. Tate was raised in a council estate in the poorest city in London. Came from basically nothing. Now he has 500M+ net worth.

Theres value in listening to Tate imo. Even if its just to analyze their excellent persuasive skills and not their money / mindset advice

Good point. I admit that I could become better at listening more to the points people bring up and how they bring them up rather than look at the person who is bringing it up.

But man, people like the Tates lose credibility when they talk BS about topics I know something about. Because then I get a feeling they talk BS about other things as well, and question their intentions. And once you get the feeling they are in it for the money, likes and attention... it becomes hard to take them seriously and respect their advice

Counter-example: the only reason I still read GirlsChase after ten years is because I knew from experience that Chase and co were onto something when I found this site + they still deliver sound advice about women, relationships and life. But I had to sort through a lot of other pickup sites that gave me a weird feeling. E.g. do a triangle gaze and girls will be ALL OVER YOU lol

So yeah... credibility and similarity mean a lot to me

 

[POB]

Theres value in listening to Tate imo. Even if its just to analyze their excellent persuasive skills and not their money / mindset advice

Never forget: red pill is a trillion dollar industry

Guys like the Tates have mastered the art of conning people through expert marketing tactics!

What they do has been done thousands upon thousands of times in the past: pick an audience, tell them what they want to hear, pretend to care about helping them and suck they dry of their hard earned money. To me they represent the modern con man, nothing else.

 

[Train]

Never forget: red pill is a trillion dollar industry

Guys like the Tates have mastered the art of conning people through expert marketing tactics!

What they do has been done thousands upon thousands of times in the past: pick an audience, tell them what they want to hear, pretend to care about helping them and suck they dry of their hard earned money. To me they represent the modern con man, nothing else.

Agreed, Tate is a conman. In this video (2:00 time stamp), Tate brags about scamming guys by pretending to be a camgirl. Super scummy:

 

[Lover]

Agreed, Tate is a conman. In this video (2:00 time stamp), Tate brags about scamming guys by pretending to be a camgirl. Super scummy:

And he was supposed to help men become better versions of themselves? This seems like exploiting those very men he wants to "help" without being sorry for it

 

[DoWhatWorks]

Chiming in - these guys are phenomenal marketers with a mediocre message.

RP/Tate can be summarised to:

1. Go to the gym -> okay captain obvious
2. Make more money -> not a nuanced enough point but cool I'll accept it [time & logistics money buys is more useful for girls than the money itself]
3. Girls will come to you -> unhelpful male fantasy

Butttttttttttt I'd be lying if I didn't say I think they know what they're talking about with biz & influencing people.

They understand their target audience better than their target audience knows themselves...

It's how they've sold them on cam girls, then upsold them on their courses to stop paying cam girls, before the up-up-sell on getting your own cam girls

You can't make it up

Game recognises game. I can't knock the hustle *shrugs* but there's much better sources of information out there.