I'm a daygamer in SF. Probably approached 150 girsl. 6 or 7 dates. 0 logistics because I live in East Bay and that cost me a pretty good shot at 2 first date lays.
My dates last too long (like 3+ hours with me verbally and physically escalating), I need to probe for logistics/time constraints earlier and then make adjustments. Also I feel like the date is too gamey...like I'm trying to shoehorn game bits and pieces into every other minute. This leads me to talking way too much. I was even asked by one chick, on the street, if I know what RSD is? I lied and said I didn't. She sniffed it out on the first date because of the gamey nature of the interactions.
I also feel like I'm using way too much explicit value...talking about my prom queen ex (buried into an embarassing story), a Thank You note from a lover (under the pretext of women having un-fulfilled sexual desires bc men ruin their reputation if she asks for something 'whorish' and the girls wanting to be seen as the 'virgin'. These are true stories.
Here are a couple re-occurring themes:
1. I can get girls talking about sex, ie positions, sensual vs dominant.. etc, I even had one Korean girl tell me she loves to lick ass...after hanging out for two hours. They are clearly into it and opening up. Here's the catch...I've had 3 girls (a trend) say that this was "one of the most interesting dates I've ever been on". One bought me a steak dinner. Another offered to buy sushi she didn't even eat. She only had miso soup. One chick spent $70 on apps/drinks and I just took care of the tip. No repeat dates though. I made my intentions clear (I'm moving fast as in first date lays) and they seem to be 'scared' to come out again, but do stick around for a few hours while I verbally/physically escalate. I realize it depends, but how explicit are you guys with sex talk? Do you do it on a coffee date during the afternoon and if so, do you change the content? I really like the idea of sexual prizing because my whole reason into getting into this game is to watch and listen to as many women have orgasms as possible and be transparent about this. Interesting dates != lays though.
2. The end of the date, because I'm going for kiss closes and, basically, inviting myself over to her place on the first date, are ending awkward AF. I feel like this awkwardness is leading to no second dates. I realize it's because I'm not building enough of the right kind/calibrated sexual tension to force the action, and I'm working on addressing that, but how do you guys recover from the botched kiss/pull close?
My dates last too long (like 3+ hours with me verbally and physically escalating), I need to probe for logistics/time constraints earlier and then make adjustments. Also I feel like the date is too gamey...like I'm trying to shoehorn game bits and pieces into every other minute. This leads me to talking way too much. I was even asked by one chick, on the street, if I know what RSD is? I lied and said I didn't. She sniffed it out on the first date because of the gamey nature of the interactions.
I also feel like I'm using way too much explicit value...talking about my prom queen ex (buried into an embarassing story), a Thank You note from a lover (under the pretext of women having un-fulfilled sexual desires bc men ruin their reputation if she asks for something 'whorish' and the girls wanting to be seen as the 'virgin'. These are true stories.
Here are a couple re-occurring themes:
1. I can get girls talking about sex, ie positions, sensual vs dominant.. etc, I even had one Korean girl tell me she loves to lick ass...after hanging out for two hours. They are clearly into it and opening up. Here's the catch...I've had 3 girls (a trend) say that this was "one of the most interesting dates I've ever been on". One bought me a steak dinner. Another offered to buy sushi she didn't even eat. She only had miso soup. One chick spent $70 on apps/drinks and I just took care of the tip. No repeat dates though. I made my intentions clear (I'm moving fast as in first date lays) and they seem to be 'scared' to come out again, but do stick around for a few hours while I verbally/physically escalate. I realize it depends, but how explicit are you guys with sex talk? Do you do it on a coffee date during the afternoon and if so, do you change the content? I really like the idea of sexual prizing because my whole reason into getting into this game is to watch and listen to as many women have orgasms as possible and be transparent about this. Interesting dates != lays though.
2. The end of the date, because I'm going for kiss closes and, basically, inviting myself over to her place on the first date, are ending awkward AF. I feel like this awkwardness is leading to no second dates. I realize it's because I'm not building enough of the right kind/calibrated sexual tension to force the action, and I'm working on addressing that, but how do you guys recover from the botched kiss/pull close?
