Mr. Moose -
mrmoose said:
I could use some input whatever it is on this issue. It seems that dating culture in the US has changed completely from when I was in my 20s (I am 41 btw). It used to be pretty normal to "hook up" with someone and just be exclusive until it burned out on it's own then you go find another girl. That is what I grew up with and how my brain is wired to think of "dating". I honestly can't ever remember having the talk where you ask if the girl is your girlfriend, she just was and you both knew it lol. It seems like now not only is all of the advice out there (for both men and women) to date multiple people at the same time, but that it is normal to have sex with those people too and be pretty up front about it. I have to be honest, that is fucking creepy to me.
I'm really not a prude lol, I love sex and girls like most healthy men and have no hangups or shame there. If you felt the same way how did you address it? Whatever your opinion on this I am curious to hear it.
A large part of the culture in the U.S. is now "hookup culture," yes. However, there are limitations.
Many of the most beautiful / high class girls do not partake. There's a lot of dating advice going around for women saying, "You can have sex with lots of men at once. It's okay! It's accepted," and a lot of the lower / middle status girls dive into this wholeheartedly, buying into the hype. I'm not even convinced they
want to, so much as they think they
should. Most beautiful / classy girls seem to refrain. The exception are the high sex drive beauties... these girls partake enthusiastically, simply because it's what they want. Think of high status women as "girls who will go get what they want," while low and middle status girls as "girls who don't know what they want so do whatever society tells them to."
Basically, I'd say, look at a girl's social value as a big indicator of how likely she is to participate in hookup culture or not. If she's "hot" - as in, cute / sort-of plain, but she does her hair up nice and puts on makeup and throws on flashy clothes - she's a likely candidate. If she's naturally beautiful, but not "hot," she's a less likely one.
My personal way of dealing with hookup culture has always been to use girls who engage in it as hookups, and to save girlfriend status for higher social status women who don't engage in it / have too much to lose, value- and reputation-wise. I like higher social status women anyway - they tend to be more sociable, have happier / more optimistic personalities, be more beautiful, be more intelligent, and often have better jobs. Our conversations are better, and relationships less work.
I'm a big believer in not having to push yourself to like or date women living lifestyles you don't want to like or date women living. It's very easy to save hookup girls for hooking up, and girls who refrain for more traditional relationship roles.
Chase