LR Did she pump and dump me?

[KJ Francis]

+1 what skills said btw, the vibe is wrong... from these texts it's obvious your headspace isn't that of a ladies man, and hence the vibe will be off in person also: too happy to be with her, too playful and nice, too much trying to be liked.

Get a little edge a la Al Pacino and Robert DeNiro in "Heat" into your vibe... watch that movie.

Also, David D... underrated for inner game and vibe. He taught about this masculinity and solidity you need to add. His vibe 20 years ago was that dominant leader alpha guy who couldn't give a shit about some dumb ditz.

Soak up some of that, but go first edition with any of his products you can still find. You'll have to download them across the web as they're not for sale anymore.

Perfect timing for me right now, thanks.

I've been interested in classic seduction books and have a thread with some lists.

If you recommend Swinggcat, would you read 2.0 or also go for first edition?

 

[KJ Francis]

@TomInHo

Next day post lay:
ME: "Hey gorgeous, how you feeling tonight?
HER: "Good. I went swimming. And now I'm about to finish my dinner."
ME: "I'm going swimming tomorrow "
HER: [she just thumps up the message, no other reply]

Few days post lay:
ME: "Evening. The memories of our Sunday night came back to me and they were pleasant [some smily face or sth]"
HER: [she just thumps up the message, no other reply]

Note the I/you/we(our) ratio, both individually and with each other. Her swimming text has three.

 

[KJ Francis]

Making rookie mistakes in retention and LT courtship I guess.

This sounds like the mistake. Forget LT courtship as a concept.

I hope you're good and out approaching! Good luck. Get some good skin contact from someone else.

 

[Karea Ricardus D.]

If you recommend Swinggcat, would you read 2.0 or also go for first edition?

Not sure which is better with Swingcat. is already bonus literature in my eyes... I wouldn't worry too much about it. Worth reading, sure, but not core material. He was one of the first to really do sexual framing right, but it was still kinda clunky and gamey compared to what Dallas Crew was doing later.

 

[Jan]

@Francis @Skills @Karea Ricardus D. @TomInHo @Dreamer

Lads, firstly I would like to thank you all for your contribution to this thread. You've all brought some positive light to the situation and to drawbacks of my game.

@Francis - You're right about the onitis.
@Skills - Also correct about mild onitis. And yes, my texting sucks. I've already read your materials and took action.
@Karea Ricardus D. You are right about not qualifying her properly.
@TominHo You are correct about jelously plot. I'm pretty sure it would help (but only if the other girl came from her social circle or similar.

Having said that, unfortunately I think most of you missed the main source of my issue.

Having been in touch with this girl in the last few days and having an intensive considerations about the situation, I now think the main issue is what Alek describes as Female State Control, also known as Social Frame or Social leg by Gunwitch.

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Let's reconsider the most important fact:
1) She slept with me, so clearly there is no issues with attraction, sexyiness but also comfort. Otherwise, it wouldn't have happened. This lay wasn't some random lay from a night club. It was a deliberate, two-dates situation when she was sober all along.

There are many issues with my game (texting, chase frame, onitis, etc), but bear in mind that having all these issues I slept with her. If if she went to bed with me, how come she didn't want to follow through?

The problem is that SHE DOESN'T CONSIDER ME EQUAL (OR BETTER) ON A SOCIAL LEVEL. That's the MAIN issue. Of course, it wouldn't be a problem if I went full lover path (without projecting any boyfriend vibe). If I did this, and I kept that frame (throught texting) and general vibe, she would have gladly met me for the second time. The problem is that I projected that relationship (boyfriend) expectations.

Think about this. Imagine this rich, sexy, MILF with a mansion who is fucking a sexy, young pool boy. As long as it's ONLY about sex, she will gladly continue fucking him. However, when he ever starts to project any kind of expectations of potential relationship, it's a completely different story for her. Now, she will have to consider if he is someone she would be willing to be socially be seen with. Maybe with some of her very liberal friends, but with everyone else? I think this is what happened in my case. As long as our relationship was about friendship and sex, it wasn't a problem for her. But because I started to project the boyfriend vibe through my cheesy texts, she started considering this, and she became more and more concerned about the social frame.

As I said before, I consider myself close to her social value, but probably a notch below. And this is obviously a problem for her. Not an immediate deal breaker (she actually still keeps texting me, even thought the vibe kinda went down).

I would like to raise @Teevster to hear his opinion if my interpretation about Female State Control interpretation of this issue could be correct.