Lately, I’ve been hearing from women who went cold on me in the past through text But as soon as I turn up the heat and call them out on their bullshit, they start texting me more, and the attraction even increases. I’ve sort of been throwing Hail Marys, saying exactly what I want to say, even being a little derogatory at times. I spent a long time playing it cool, following the usual advice, but I’ve realized a lot of these women take kindness for weakness. Now, all of a sudden, I’m getting faster replies, longer messages, and way more respect. It’s like the moment I stop holding back and start checking them, they actually like it. Maybe I’m just dealing with the wrong ones, but has anyone else noticed this?
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Post some examples of that let's see
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Not surprising. Women:
- Love drama
- Love guys who have self respect and won't put up with bs
- Love guys who can handle them and aren't afraid to put her in her place
The problem is that guys often will err on the side of being too nice and safe while they are trying to get her, and by the time they start expressing how they really feel, it comes out vicious and resentful, and she loses all attraction for him.
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right! brah...
You keep complaining about texting, but you never post sample all anecdotal... is your choice, but this will make your job 50k times harder, and the well meaning advice at times wrong or out of context....
polarization works, i went through a seduction period of my life in nexasf that my game was all about being polirizing, so was my posting style (so i know it works i even wrote about it at the time cause i really believed in it), actually if you think of Donald trump that is his whole game...
But i am here to tell you is not optimal.... Though better than normal type texting, cause you will lose women doing that, in this environment everything has to be on point, you can not be losing leads on the table, back then yes, it was not gen z..... With gen z, not optimal... but again better than status quote normal fag game...
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normie texting horrible...
anyways, brah do a journal, and post your text logs in there and you @ the people you want input from....or anybody can jump in, only problem with that style is that too many cooks in the kitchen... which is why i am now doing coaching, but that is start, people can jump in and help you.... I felt asleep reading that 3 second text...
Socializing - How to flirt mini guide for in person gaming and digital gaming (texting).....
Guys have been requesting for me to do a mini guide on this, so here we go: So what is flirting: "Flirting or coquetry is a social and sexual behavior involving spoken or written communication, as well as body language, by one person to another, either to suggest interest in a deeper...
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@Mikedee,
I mean this in the nicest way, but you have no clue what you are doing with texting at all!
All the frustration you're having is due to this terrible texting.
You are, at present, in the lowest tier of male texters I identified in this article -- the Clueless Boring Questions Guy™ (CBQG).
Main hurdles for you to improve at texting are:
Start to do those things and you will at least begin to move out of CBQG guy land into something else... even if it is just being the Endless Conversations Guy™ (which is still bad, but less bad than CBQG).
GOOD that you are asking about your texting! You have big blindspots here but if you didn't ask, who knows how long it'd take to discover them (if ever).
If you are good in-person but your texting is just atrocious, and you are just having too much trouble understanding texting psychology for whatever reason, you may want to switch to going for instant dates and ONS... or switch to using audio or video messages instead of texts. (but if you're equally bad/boring in regular conversation as you are with texting, this will not help; instead you will need to work on being an interesting conversationalist first)
Chase
I mean this in the nicest way, but you have no clue what you are doing with texting at all!
All the frustration you're having is due to this terrible texting.
You are, at present, in the lowest tier of male texters I identified in this article -- the Clueless Boring Questions Guy™ (CBQG).
Main hurdles for you to improve at texting are:
- Getting better empathy/insight into where women's heads are likely at when you text them (rather than just texting "whatever" and hoping something hits)
- Learning to think about the texts you're sending, before you send them; taking into account where girls' heads likely are; and asking yourself, "What effect do I expect this text to have? How will sending this text help me to move things forward?"
Start to do those things and you will at least begin to move out of CBQG guy land into something else... even if it is just being the Endless Conversations Guy™ (which is still bad, but less bad than CBQG).
GOOD that you are asking about your texting! You have big blindspots here but if you didn't ask, who knows how long it'd take to discover them (if ever).
If you are good in-person but your texting is just atrocious, and you are just having too much trouble understanding texting psychology for whatever reason, you may want to switch to going for instant dates and ONS... or switch to using audio or video messages instead of texts. (but if you're equally bad/boring in regular conversation as you are with texting, this will not help; instead you will need to work on being an interesting conversationalist first)
Chase
Give me an example
@Chase @Skills
Thank you both for your feedback so far. The conversation is still going, and my laid-back approach seems to be working. In the past, I’ve often written more than necessary based on advice from these sites, which sometimes caused me to lose the girl. Maybe it’s a demographic thing—some women might see flirty texts as creepy. I know I need to improve, so I’m asking both of you: What exactly would you have written in this text? Word for word. Thanks in advance!
Thank you both for your feedback so far. The conversation is still going, and my laid-back approach seems to be working. In the past, I’ve often written more than necessary based on advice from these sites, which sometimes caused me to lose the girl. Maybe it’s a demographic thing—some women might see flirty texts as creepy. I know I need to improve, so I’m asking both of you: What exactly would you have written in this text? Word for word. Thanks in advance!
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I’m not gunna lie, I like this style a lot.
I can see it getting girls to invest heavy while you do the minimum (and come off that way too).
Soft close as effortlessly as you carry the conversation and you’re golden!
Another thing that is key (and which you apply) is liking her responses, which in turn encourages her to respond in kind.
With girls that are less responsive I can see halting the conversation and pinging her at a later date with patience AND persistence working very well. Saving you the need to try and ‘entertain’ her to get her invested.
You’re onto something dude, i’ll be stealing a bit of this.
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This one was a bit better but try flirting a bit to gauge and use soft closes before asking her out...
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Texting to me is very straightforward. I think people overcomplicate it. From my perspective, and as someone who has vast experience in it, texting is the least of your concern. Usually, if the approach was solid, and she hooks, she'll be responsive up to the first date. It's the first date she makes a decision if she really want to see you again, so after the first date is when they might typically ghost via text (from my experience with daygame), REGARDLESS of what you text after the first date (good or bad).
Light flirting is cool via text before first date, but not hard sexual stuff (unless you're trying to filter, which I also have lots of experience with). Long getting-to-know-you texts is not good, especially before the first date. Shouldn't be too many texting before the first date.
Now, AFTER the first date, if she is still responsive, then this is high compliance as she has been on the date with you and has decided she wants to see you again. Notice how "text game" is minimal. In fact, trying to "game" a girl via text often makes you look weird, and sometimes it's just better to be normal with, once again, possibly light flirting if you'd like.
If she is not very responsive before the first date then chances she wasn't that into you from the approach. The tricky ones are the ones that act interested but are not. In that case, what they will do is they will flake before the first date, so with these types you need to watch their actions, and not so much their words. Often, these types of girls you might feel the approach was not really hooked and they still seem very excited, etc., via text before first date--this types of girls might be lying, in which you still set up first date and see if she flakes. Most of seeing a girl for the first date is not in the text as it is in the initial meeting.
Everyone's experiences may be different, but this has been my experience mostly from daygame.
Light flirting is cool via text before first date, but not hard sexual stuff (unless you're trying to filter, which I also have lots of experience with). Long getting-to-know-you texts is not good, especially before the first date. Shouldn't be too many texting before the first date.
Now, AFTER the first date, if she is still responsive, then this is high compliance as she has been on the date with you and has decided she wants to see you again. Notice how "text game" is minimal. In fact, trying to "game" a girl via text often makes you look weird, and sometimes it's just better to be normal with, once again, possibly light flirting if you'd like.
If she is not very responsive before the first date then chances she wasn't that into you from the approach. The tricky ones are the ones that act interested but are not. In that case, what they will do is they will flake before the first date, so with these types you need to watch their actions, and not so much their words. Often, these types of girls you might feel the approach was not really hooked and they still seem very excited, etc., via text before first date--this types of girls might be lying, in which you still set up first date and see if she flakes. Most of seeing a girl for the first date is not in the text as it is in the initial meeting.
Everyone's experiences may be different, but this has been my experience mostly from daygame.