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I went out last night with a couple of my friends to a Halloween themed event. The venue was packed with different girls in their Halloween costumes so it looked like it was going to be a good night. This is the usual venue I go to when I’m in college but I’m considering dropping it for the following reasons:
- there are minimal “talking” areas, even the bar part of the venue has loud music playing so it’s hard to make conversation
- on the dance floor, most people are with their friends, dancing in a circle which makes it really hard to open, isolate/mini-isolate and obviously escalate
- I’ve been going there for a while now with minimal results. In all my time going here, I’ve only managed to pull once (and I think i got lucky)
I think these reasons were part of why I couldn’t pull my target tonight.
Anyway, back to the night, my friends and I got there pretty early and I know a bunch of regulars so I say hey to the bouncers, bartenders and a couple of girls I know to build some social proof and establish some momentum.
Afterwards, I head to the dancefloor and alternate between the dancefloor and the talking area in the back (the talking area is usually full so it’s terrible for isolation and escalation). I talk to a couple of girls, practice my hooking (I used the 3 animals game a lot which most girls responded well to) and got a couple of numbers.
At this point, it was past midnight and I still hadn’t committed to a set for the night so I decided to focus on that. On the dancefloor, I see a girl that I’ve run into multiple times at this venue before. I already had her number but it never went anywhere but here she was, and she was super open to me. I say hey and ask how she’s been. While we were talking, I put my arm around her to create a bubble. She was with just one friend so I was a bit worried that would affect my pulling later on but then I notice my friend talking to the friend. Apparently he had known her friend for a while now and had been trying to get with her as well. It was a perfect scenario!
Shortly after, my friend isolates his girl to the bar which had become much quieter and I used that as an excuse to my move my girl there as well so we could talk. We get shots at the bar and start talking about life, our personalities, the past, the future etc I’m going hard on the deep-diving. It was in the back of my mind to start escalating but I didn’t know how to besides going in for a kiss. However, we were by her friend and I didn’t want unnecessary negative momentum so I kept the deep diving going.
(Looking back, I could have moved us to a sitting area where I could properly run an escalation ladder to balance the similarity with arousal)
Now, she goes up to her friend who was still talking to mine and they talk for a bit. It turns out they have some other friends at a different bar so they decide to move there. I decide that it’s time to commit to a set so my friend and I agree to accompany the girls to this new bar. On the way to the new venue, I couldn’t get as much interaction in because of the break in momentum.
While at the new venue, the girls spent most of the time talking to their friends. My friend was super confident that they would come back to us. I’ve been experimenting with giving girls space to chase so I decided to trust in the set and see how it plays out. After a while, my friend’s girl leaves her friends to come back to him while my girls doesn’t.
At this point, I’m getting a bit anxious and my confidence took a massive hit. I thought I had run decent game but she’s not showing any desire to come find me even when she clearly knows where I am. I’m not really sure what else to do so I just walk over to her, introduce myself to her friends and try to revive the set. It doesn’t work as she’s totally engrossed in conversation with her friends.
The bar closes, and my friend and I decide to go for the pull. He already isolated his girl so he was able to smoothly pull her without friends interfering. I ask my girl’s friends if I could steal her for a second and attempt the pull but she just gives a bold no and says we’ll hang out some other time (which, in my experience, is just a way of letting you down easy).
It felt pretty embarrassing and frustrating especially since I could have possibly had better results by committing to a different .
Any ideas on where I messed up? Also, how do I make girls invest/chase in the seduction? I feel like the seduction goes good as long as I’m able to isolate but girls rarely care enough to want to isolate. The best I’ve been able to get at night is a mini-isolation. If I’m not present, they usually don’t want to do the work to return to me which just ends up putting me in the chaser position.
- there are minimal “talking” areas, even the bar part of the venue has loud music playing so it’s hard to make conversation
- on the dance floor, most people are with their friends, dancing in a circle which makes it really hard to open, isolate/mini-isolate and obviously escalate
- I’ve been going there for a while now with minimal results. In all my time going here, I’ve only managed to pull once (and I think i got lucky)
I think these reasons were part of why I couldn’t pull my target tonight.
Anyway, back to the night, my friends and I got there pretty early and I know a bunch of regulars so I say hey to the bouncers, bartenders and a couple of girls I know to build some social proof and establish some momentum.
Afterwards, I head to the dancefloor and alternate between the dancefloor and the talking area in the back (the talking area is usually full so it’s terrible for isolation and escalation). I talk to a couple of girls, practice my hooking (I used the 3 animals game a lot which most girls responded well to) and got a couple of numbers.
At this point, it was past midnight and I still hadn’t committed to a set for the night so I decided to focus on that. On the dancefloor, I see a girl that I’ve run into multiple times at this venue before. I already had her number but it never went anywhere but here she was, and she was super open to me. I say hey and ask how she’s been. While we were talking, I put my arm around her to create a bubble. She was with just one friend so I was a bit worried that would affect my pulling later on but then I notice my friend talking to the friend. Apparently he had known her friend for a while now and had been trying to get with her as well. It was a perfect scenario!
Shortly after, my friend isolates his girl to the bar which had become much quieter and I used that as an excuse to my move my girl there as well so we could talk. We get shots at the bar and start talking about life, our personalities, the past, the future etc I’m going hard on the deep-diving. It was in the back of my mind to start escalating but I didn’t know how to besides going in for a kiss. However, we were by her friend and I didn’t want unnecessary negative momentum so I kept the deep diving going.
(Looking back, I could have moved us to a sitting area where I could properly run an escalation ladder to balance the similarity with arousal)
Now, she goes up to her friend who was still talking to mine and they talk for a bit. It turns out they have some other friends at a different bar so they decide to move there. I decide that it’s time to commit to a set so my friend and I agree to accompany the girls to this new bar. On the way to the new venue, I couldn’t get as much interaction in because of the break in momentum.
While at the new venue, the girls spent most of the time talking to their friends. My friend was super confident that they would come back to us. I’ve been experimenting with giving girls space to chase so I decided to trust in the set and see how it plays out. After a while, my friend’s girl leaves her friends to come back to him while my girls doesn’t.
At this point, I’m getting a bit anxious and my confidence took a massive hit. I thought I had run decent game but she’s not showing any desire to come find me even when she clearly knows where I am. I’m not really sure what else to do so I just walk over to her, introduce myself to her friends and try to revive the set. It doesn’t work as she’s totally engrossed in conversation with her friends.
The bar closes, and my friend and I decide to go for the pull. He already isolated his girl so he was able to smoothly pull her without friends interfering. I ask my girl’s friends if I could steal her for a second and attempt the pull but she just gives a bold no and says we’ll hang out some other time (which, in my experience, is just a way of letting you down easy).
It felt pretty embarrassing and frustrating especially since I could have possibly had better results by committing to a different .
Any ideas on where I messed up? Also, how do I make girls invest/chase in the seduction? I feel like the seduction goes good as long as I’m able to isolate but girls rarely care enough to want to isolate. The best I’ve been able to get at night is a mini-isolation. If I’m not present, they usually don’t want to do the work to return to me which just ends up putting me in the chaser position.
