Field-Tested Online Process

[Adventurer]

I’ve been travelling for a year and got a lot of success from online, so I’m making this post to share the results of my experiments, have everything written in one place to share it on other platforms, and also to discuss it with the forum so I can improve.

Results

In total, I got 22 lays from this process in 2024. I have abundance from online game in every country, including in the West. In some extreme cases like in Thailand, where local girls go crazy for foreigners, I even reached absolute abundance, and I could bang 3 new hot girls a week if I wanted to.

Which apps to use

I have Tinder, Bumble and Hinge with the highest possible subscription tier. On top of that, I look up the most popular local dating app in the country I’m visiting, and if it’s something different from Tinder/Bumble, I download it and take a monthly subscription. In particular, Tantan (the Chinese Tinder), is great in Asia.

Never spent anything on boosts, superlikes or other extra functions other than the subscription.

The pictures

I have 4 pictures: 3 of them are AI-generated and 1 is a real picture where I’m with a friend in a cool location.

How to use AI to generate pictures: Go to PhotoAI and upload 20 or so good pictures of you. The AI will learn your features to generate attractive pics that look perfectly like you, to the point you can verify your account on Tinder even with AI pics. The effect is similar to pro pictures with filters. In 1 year, only 2 girls have noticed the pics were AI.

https://photoai.com/

You need a bit of AI prompting skills to get the best results. This blog has everything you need to learn about Stable Diffusion, the picture-generating AI used by PhotoAI

https://stable-diffusion-art.com/

AI is bad at generating group pictures or complex poses, so you still need regular pictures in your profile.
After you have generated your AI pictures, you need to test all your pics, AI and non-AI, on Photofeeler.

https://www.photofeeler.com/

Only upload the 4-6 pictures with the highest ATTRACTIVENESS score on apps (you don’t care about the other 2 metrics). Mine go from 8.8 to 9.2 attractiveness. The cutoff to get matches at all in the West is 8 in my experience. With 9 attractiveness I can get quality matches in any country. The frequency and number of those quality girls depends on the local dating market.

For the record, a regular picture of me gets about 4 to 5 attractiveness on Photofeeler. You don’t need to be extremely attractive to follow this process.

The Profile

I only fill “education” at Master’s degree because it’s true and is a fitness indicator. In apps that ask for what you’re looking for, I have “short term, ok for long”

My bio has my nationality as someone from Western Europe to play the exotic foreigner card, and a minimalist hookup-friendly sentence: “Looking for someone adventurous and open-minded”

I leave the rest blank as much as possible.

The texting process on the app chat

This is heavily influences by Chase’s online guide, Skills’ structure and Hector’s book about texting, with a only a few tweaks.

First message:
“Hey (name)”
“How are you doing today?”

This does 3 things:
-The law of least effort is respected, it’s low investment, no crazy funny pick up line, just a regular normal greeting
-The “today” is a call to action, she has to respond in the same day and not ignore it
-The use of a complex tense and perfect spelling is a weirdly effective fitness indicator, because a lot of girls are so drowned in matches they start to disqualify guys based for bad spelling and grammar

(girl will respond something like “hi, good how are you”)

Second message:
“Doing great thanks”
“How are guys treating you on this app?”

Saying you’re doing “great” instead of just “ok” or “good” frames you as someone who’s positive and enjoying life

The question is the standard message from Skills, not much to add to what has already been said about this great line, it’s the best way to start the convo by far, it’s generic but feels personnalized, it gets an emotional response almost all the time for free, it’s amazing

Third message:
Whatever the girl answers here, I relate with a message that calibrates to her investment and then ask
“Have you gone out with anyone yet?”

This is the line from Chase’s product, just a normal continuation to the convo you’re having about your experience with apps.

A few exemples of calibration, if she asks how are apps are treating ME, I say “Me I can’t complain to be honest” (credit Skills). If she sends a wall of text about how other guys are weird, I relate by saying “I had good experiences but yeah there are a lot of weirdos (laughing emoji)”

The number close:
Whatever she says, I qualify her with a short message then ask for her number at this point.

If she says “I just installed the app” -> “Good for you to try new things ”
If she says she had a few dates already -> “That’s good ”
If she says she had dates but they were not great -> “Too bad to hear that“

Then I send this exact message (it’s a variation of Chase’s online product):
“You seem normal and cool. Do you have whatsapp? I’m not often on (name of the app)”

What it does:
-Qualify her on something a bit unusual, being normal in opposition to the “weirdos” you or her already mentioned in the convo. This often makes her laugh
-Get the number asap. Even regular girls get 10k matches a week or more on apps. You don’t want to compete with this sausage fest for longer than necessary
-Create scarcity by saying you don’t check the app often. It’s completely fake and they probably know it, but most of the time, girls are also not that often on apps because it’s mentally draining, so they will relate

Troubleshooting:

If the girl opens you, skip the first message. Instead say:
“Hey (name), thanks for matching”
“How are guys treating you there?”

You don’t need to play it cool with the law of least effort in that case, the girl is already investing by sending the first message

If the girls reacts badly or asks “why this question” after the second message, just say
“It’s just to start the conversation”
“Have you gone out with anyone yet?”

Law of least effort, you play it cool and continue the convo. When I do this, I don’t ask the number immediately, I do 1 or 2 more messages of unscripted banter before closing. Otherwise it’s too tryhard

If the girl doesn’t want to give whatsapp and instead proposes Instagram:

“That works, you can add me”
“(my insta handle)”

Insta is only marginally worse than whatsapp. Sure, it’s mentally associated with simps and it might make some girls more testy but it’s functionnally identical. And the fact she has to manually add you is investment

Girls mostly want to see your insta for safety reasons. As long as you have a non-AI, normal looking profile picture, a few friends on there and some posts, they don’t care about your follower count

If the girl refuses to give any contact, it’s a bad sign but not a death sentence. I just do banter for 2-3 unscripted messages and then ask for the date directly from the app chat (see below).

If the girl stops responding at any point, I wait 2 days and then send:
“Hey (name), are you still there ?”
“How’s your week/weekend been”

This is a hail mary low effort attempt to start the convo again. It works maybe 10% of the time, which is better than losing a match altogether

The texting process on Whatsapp/Insta

I treat the number I just got as any number I would have got from day game or social circle. Which means this great texting template from Chase applies

https://www.girlschase.com/ways-to-text-a-girl

Ice breaker text:
I use the icebreaker text from the article word for word, it works great

Banter, Soft close/hard close:
For beginners, I recommend just following the script from the article above, I’ve done it for a while and it works just fine, I got plenty of dates and lays from it. But now that I’ve read Hector’s book and became better at text game, I generally prefer to use Skills’ structure of open -> banter -> soft close -> hard close. This is higher odds, but the downside is that you have to actually go off-script and banter until a high point.

I generally start the banter by asking:
“Are you living in (city) or just visiting?”

That way you get info about their logistics right away and it’s a good convo starter

The soft close line I use is:
“How about we go grab a coffee/drink in the next days?”
Then ask for when she’s free (very important), then set up the logistics until you agree on a date, time and location.

Then I send
“Perfect! See you on (day of the date) (winking emoji)”

Very similar to Chase’s text template.

If they refuse the soft close for safety reasons, I organize a video call instead and ask them out during the call instead.

If at any point, they ignore a soft or hard close attempt, I wait for a day then send (credit POB):
"Don't forget to let me know what you think of the idea (winking emoji)"

It just restarts the convo in a low-effort, non-needy way

The date

The date location is extremely important. Ideally, I want an outdoor public place, but not all girls will agree to meet in a park or on the beach for safety reasons. The next best thing is a chill bar or café with romantic music and a couch. If there is none of this close to your place, a regular café, bar or restaurant will do but you may have to bounce.

The day of the date, I send the “check-in” text from Chase’s template, as an anti-flake prevention.

I generally escalate touch and set sexual frames as soon as I can, to try to go for the lay on the first date. This is because dating apps are competitive, you don’t know how many guys she might meet before you plan the second date. There are tons of resources on how to run a date here so it’s a bit outside of the scope of this post.

Adjustments based on cultural differences

If Whatsapp is not the most popular texting app in the country, I download the most popular app and use that instead. For instance, WeChat in China or Line in Thailand.

Setting up the date via text and then go radio silent until the day of the date works great and saves you a lot of trouble when you have dozens of convos, but for some reason it doesn't work in Latin America. In my experience, you need to text regularly with Latinas, otherwise they just lose interest and flake. Even Regular Boring Question Guy TM texts work fine, ask how their day is going, things like that. You can also video call them before the date as an extra anti-flake prevention measure.

If the girl doesn’t speak your language at all, there is a magic message that will make them go out with you anyway:
“Google translate (winking emoji)”
In fact, Google translate dates are some of the easiest lays ever because you have an extremely easy excuse to escalate right away.

In more dangerous countries where dating app scams are a threat, I obeyed those 3 rules and never had any problem:
-Don’t meet a girl in a place you didn’t choose yourself
-Don’t follow a girl anywhere you don’t know
-Don’t send money to a girl you just met, even if she comes up with a sob story

Let me know what you think and if there are things you think I can improve with this process, or what you do differently in your own process

 

[Lantern]

“How are guys treating you there?”

While this is a great post, I want to jump in here with my experience with this line, which I picked up on this forum. About one third of the time, this line got me the response to the tune of "Are you interested in me or other guys here lol?" from girls and generally didn't help. The other times it mostly got me meek responses that didn't feel like they were moving the conversation forward.

I really found it best after the first few lines to do a sort of cold read from her photos (based on her style, locations, etc), and then tease her about it a bit.

So anyway, maybe that line works for others, but just a note that mileage may vary.

 

[Bismarck]

Thanks for this Adventurer. I installed Tinder for 1 or 2 weeks during the pandemic back in 2020 and even paid to see the ogres who were matching with me or liking me or whatever but quickly dropped it due to getting "offended" by the low caliber of the twat that was being thrown my way.

However, I may go back to this to supplement my other sources since I know Devilicious slays mad toosh from it and so does Pelusita and some other dudes. Now that, as Skills and Teevs reported, the nightlife is dead and everyone's online, gotta adapt or die.

 

[Adventurer]

While this is a great post, I want to jump in here with my experience with this line, which I picked up on this forum. About one third of the time, this line got me the response to the tune of "Are you interested in me or other guys here lol?" from girls and generally didn't help. The other times it mostly got me meek responses that didn't feel like they were moving the conversation forward.

I really found it best after the first few lines to do a sort of cold read from her photos (based on her style, locations, etc), and then tease her about it a bit.

So anyway, maybe that line works for others, but just a note that mileage may vary.

Thanks Lantern, for me this line worked better than anything else I tried. I did have some bad reactions but it's rare. Ane most of the time you can recover from it, and it starts the conversation anyway

How do you formulate your cold read, or do you invent something new each time?

 

[Adventurer]

Thanks for this Adventurer. I installed Tinder for 1 or 2 weeks during the pandemic back in 2020 and even paid to see the ogres who were matching with me or liking me or whatever but quickly dropped it due to getting "offended" by the low caliber of the twat that was being thrown my way.

However, I may go back to this to supplement my other sources since I know Devilicious slays mad toosh from it and so does Pelusita and some other dudes. Now that, as Skills and Teevs reported, the nightlife is dead and everyone's online, gotta adapt or die.

The quality can definitely an issue, you have to go through a lot of fatties and scammers. After a while I developed a sixth sense to detect fat-concealing pictures

But I also fucked some top level girls like a national pageant winner and strippers from online so it was definitely worth it. It's just really random

 

[Lantern]

How do you formulate your cold read, or do you invent something new each time?

The one thing that worked very good for me was commenting on her style with a tease. I don't think many men comment on women's style, it's a subject dear to any girl and it opens up the conversation to ask about her. The template as it were is to say you like whatever seems to be her style, while teasing her that she's secretly the opposite, so:

"I like your style, very elegant. Are you like that all the time, or usually it's a band shirt and doc martens?"
or
"I like your style, very rock and roll. Are you like that all the time, or you secretly sneak to the opera in a cocktail dress on the weekend?"

I would normally get a laugh, and then the girl talking about herself, I'd then relate and talk about myself a bit, and very quickly after that go for a soft close (suggest we meet live). Like, if she confirms she dresses elegantly all the time, I'd suggest a drink at a swanky bar (I once got a "my favorite spot!" response, thanks to this approach). If she says she normally likes to be in sweats, I figure she's a sporty chick and might suggest coffee and a walk in the park, etc.

 

[Skills]

While this is a great post, I want to jump in here with my experience with this line, which I picked up on this forum. About one third of the time, this line got me the response to the tune of "Are you interested in me or other guys here lol?" from girls and generally didn't help. The other times it mostly got me meek responses that didn't feel like they were moving the conversation forward.

I really found it best after the first few lines to do a sort of cold read from her photos (based on her style, locations, etc), and then tease her about it a bit.

So anyway, maybe that line works for others, but just a note that mileage may vary.

Brah the goal is for her to respond... So it worked... Facepalm

 

[Skills]

You little spin, i saw some things that could be done better... But if is working for you all that matters.... Curious, don't you get banned by using ai... Have women been able to tell ai?

 

[Adventurer]

You little spin, i saw some things that could be done better... But if is working for you all that matters.... Curious, don't you get banned by using ai... Have women been able to tell ai?

Hey Skills, thanks for reading

I never got banned from any app, my AI pictures are very high quality and even on photofeeler, I don't get any "picture is too artificial" comments, which even real pics with filters sometimes get. I also always put at least 1 real picture in the profile

In thousands of matches I lost 2 to girls who teased me about using AI and then unmatched, no big deal. Maybe some more who recognize AI and swipe left but I have no way to check

I'm curious about what you would improve, one of the goals of this post was to get feedback from more experienced guys

 

[Skills]

I never got banned from any app, my AI pictures are very high quality and even on photofeeler, I don't get any "picture is too artificial" comments, which even real pics with filters sometimes get. I also always put at least 1 real picture in the profile

really, then is good

In thousands of matches I lost 2 to girls who teased me about using AI and then unmatched, no big deal. Maybe some more who recognize AI and swipe left but I have no way to check

yea if out of thousands 1 or 2 girls, is nothing...

I'm curious about what you would improve, one of the goals of this post was to get feedback from more experienced guys

Well, most of the success if you have good pics, which the ai is helping you, then is just not fucking it up, and moving things forward which you are achieving, but because of this, you are good... but in my experience...

the opener
“Hey (name)”
“How are you doing today?”



^ these are very normie and generic for most women to even respond to, but if you are getting a response is all that matters, but i can tell you this will not get a respond for most people..

for example "how are you doing today" is too nice guy, customer service trigger imho... again if you are getting a response all it matters..

when she ask you how are you?

you can expand with a flirt, or with you doing a high value activity vs the "great thanks" so that way no such a generic normie convo.

p.s. i never been disqualified for bad spelling or grammar lol... I heard this for ever, do you see guys in the forum disqualify me for bad spelling and grammar, same with women, no my experience..(but probably i agree with most population just cause everybody says that, but again no my experience, i think they don't like bubonics, wassup and the likes)

Then you are kind of redondant with:

how guys are treating you here? and have you gone out with anyone yet? is kind of the same question (may come across autistic, cause is the same kind of thing)... Even if is not you are contradicting the law of least effort with same kind of question twice... i bought ditch the "have gone out with anyone here yet?"

you skipped what was the qualifying message used in the op... for example i use "just curious/or ready for you test, what are your 2 best qualities that have nothing to do with your appearance" credit style but incorporated online by bd or how happy are you in your life from 1 to 10 credit bd"

f she says “I just installed the app” -> “Good for you to try new things ” i personally would do a future projection, "awesome after you get to know me you will delete the app i will ruin it for every guy here"
If she says she had a few dates already -> “That’s good ” "and yet you are still here, don't worry after you get to know me know me you will delete the app i will ruin it for every guy here"
If she says she had dates but they were not great -> “Too bad to hear that“ "of course cause they were not with me after you get to know me me you will delete the app i will ruin it for every guy here"

^ more future projections flirting vs generic normie...
You seem normal and cool. Do you have whatsapp? I’m not often on (name of the app)” i would say you seem safe and someoene worth getting to know i am barely here, and give my contact info. or if you are more comfortable i can text you in wassap? give her an alternative choice soft close... i personally just have them text me.. has worked well with me and my student that way i gain some investment and compliance...

troubleshooting:

if she messages first: "hey ___ name i hoped we matched" credit cocporn. you are rewarding her and helping her safe face... thanks for matching too normie..

soft close: her name we should have a quick meet and greet to see if the vibe is there when we meet. something low pressure like coffee or a drink?

after she agrees then logistics...


I am not saying your stuff is really good, i just think can be a bit more optimal..... But again if you are getting laid all it matters...

 

[Adventurer]

Thanks a lot Skills, this is exactly what I'm looking for, actionable improvements I can try to implement and field test, all great suggestions. The future projection examples are awesome

The normie vibe is actually a problem I'm dealing with sometimes, the girls meet me for the date and then I use touch, do sex talk etc and they think "wow in fact he's sexual" and sometimes they like it, but other times it's not congruent. So that might help to be more flirty via text

 

[Skills]

While this is a great post, I want to jump in here with my experience with this line, which I picked up on this forum. About one third of the time, this line got me the response to the tune of "Are you interested in me or other guys here lol?" from girls and generally didn't help. The other times it mostly got me meek responses that didn't feel like they were moving the conversation forward.

I really found it best after the first few lines to do a sort of cold read from her photos (based on her style, locations, etc), and then tease her about it a bit.

So anyway, maybe that line works for others, but just a note that mileage may vary.

the cold read on photos is the best type of opener there is....

the how guys are treating you here? is just transitioning to get a feel of the girl, to go into qualifying...

"Are you interested in me or other guys here lol?"

^ definitely in you, just heard some nightmares stories and want to get a feel for you, no that deep... Anyways her name, just curios...

^ then cont. with the script... I have never gotten bad responses like you though (it is just transitioning)... but a response is a response my point...

I would use these 2 as openers:

"I like your style, very elegant. Are you like that all the time, or usually it's a band shirt and doc martens?"
or
"I like your style, very rock and roll. Are you like that all the time, or you secretly sneak to the opera in a cocktail dress on the weekend?

 

[Skills]

Thanks a lot Skills, this is exactly what I'm looking for, actionable improvements I can try to implement and field test, all great suggestions. The future projection examples are awesome

The normie vibe is actually a problem I'm dealing with sometimes, the girls meet me for the date and then I use touch, do sex talk etc and they think "wow in fact he's sexual" and sometimes they like it, but other times it's not congruent. So that might help to be more flirty via text

I definitely can see this .... Read my how to flirt post., i will add your ai picture system to my online post or link you...