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Found an old school fling on tinder - first online lay on the same evening

Lantern

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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I wouldn't call myself intermediate. I think I got some smooth skills, but I haven't put in enough reps yet.

Not sure why it bothers you that girls might want a night of passion, I mean, it feels really good for her as well? I don't think that was the case with me this time, I think it's just that considering the circumstances it would take elite level managment of her emotions post sex to get this one right. If she didn't fall sick, I think I could have done it, but that screwed me up a bit.

Anyway, I wouldn't feel bothered by it. Am I a little sad that things developed like they did? Sure. But I'm also super greatful that I had the night with her. And maybe it will happen again if I keep my cool, who knows. It's all in the game, man.
 

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Tribal Elder
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Are you early intermediate level? Given that girls long term goals are typically commitment/containment, I am still finding it hard to process when a girl just wants to use your cock for a night of passion and leave it at that (Madonna/whore complex?). Vin DiCarlo's personality types separate deniers (inexperienced, need plausible deniability) and justifiers. Maybe the situation (social proof) of knowing you let her justify acting on her one night stand horniness she needed as a rebound without feeling too much like a slut.

I had a situation where a girl didn't come back after a good night and didn't know if it was an insult or a compliment. I matched a girl who got married really young and was separating. I think she was like 28 or something. She came by for a 10min walk in my neighborhood then came inside. It was one of my best fucks ever... The girl came really hard and squirted all over my bed to the point I slept on my couch the next two nights. She had one of those big plastic hair clips and gripped it so hard that it shattered into pieces.

And then she would not come back. I remember "don't get me wrong I really enjoyed what we did" but she said she knows herself and gets really attached to her man when she gets physical with anyone and knew I was 100% not looking for something serious. I was thinking to myself there is no way she's telling the truth that it's emotional self protection. But we got along awesome, good chemistry, amazing sex, I didn't show neediness... I was like wtf... girls can be honest???
again, i address this: https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/beta-maxing-strategic-position-of-weakness-part-2.29678/
 

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Tribal Elder
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I wouldn't call myself intermediate. I think I got some smooth skills, but I haven't put in enough reps yet.

Not sure why it bothers you that girls might want a night of passion, I mean, it feels really good for her as well? I don't think that was the case with me this time, I think it's just that considering the circumstances it would take elite level managment of her emotions post sex to get this one right. If she didn't fall sick, I think I could have done it, but that screwed me up a bit.

Anyway, I wouldn't feel bothered by it. Am I a little sad that things developed like they did? Sure. But I'm also super greatful that I had the night with her. And maybe it will happen again if I keep my cool, who knows. It's all in the game, man.
No you don't need elite level management, just address her concerns, and not put pressure on her, and even friendzone yourself, they will come around... Also you can only control what you can control... biggest mistake i see is guys worried that they will come across boyfriend too much, and they fuck it up..
 

KJ Francis

Cro-Magnon Man
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I wouldn't call myself intermediate. I think I got some smooth skills, but I haven't put in enough reps yet.

Not sure why it bothers you that girls might want a night of passion, I mean, it feels really good for her as well? I don't think that was the case with me this time, I think it's just that considering the circumstances it would take elite level managment of her emotions post sex to get this one right. If she didn't fall sick, I think I could have done it, but that screwed me up a bit.

Anyway, I wouldn't feel bothered by it. Am I a little sad that things developed like they did? Sure. But I'm also super greatful that I had the night with her. And maybe it will happen again if I keep my cool, who knows. It's all in the game, man.
I mean like her wanting it to be one and done. I figured if they liked it they'd want to be fuck buddies. But i guess you are so low attainability for commitment in her eyes. @Skills so betamaxing is to increase attainabity by eliminating player vibes? Can you still set expectations from the start that you will never commit to her, or you are saying save that for after she's fully locked in 3-5 times?
 

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I mean like her wanting it to be one and done. I figured if they liked it they'd want to be fuck buddies. But i guess you are so low attainability for commitment in her eyes. @Skills so betamaxing is to increase attainabity by eliminating player vibes? Can you still set expectations from the start that you will never commit to her, or you are saying save that for after she's fully locked in 3-5 times?
beta maxing is just me trolling in the title read the post for context... Also most seduction material is gen x and milleneals, gen z is a very conservative/boyfriendnish crowd tbh, not all but in general, they are slutty looking but more conservative in my opinion in general, you still have the sluts of course...talking in general....And a lot inexperience afc women again my take based ON MY EXPERIENCE...
 

KJ Francis

Cro-Magnon Man
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beta maxing is just me trolling in the title read the post for context... Also most seduction material is gen x and milleneals, gen z is a very conservative/boyfriendnish crowd tbh, not all but in general, they are slutty looking but more conservative in my opinion in general, you still have the sluts of course...talking in general....And a lot inexperience afc women again my take based ON MY EXPERIENCE...

Love bombing and romance maxing? On second thought we didn't cuddle.

Should have taped it.

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Lantern

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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No you don't need elite level management, just address her concerns, and not put pressure on her, and even friendzone yourself, they will come around... Also you can only control what you can control... biggest mistake i see is guys worried that they will come across boyfriend too much, and they fuck it up..
This is a good point, actually, thanks.

The reason I said "elite level" is it feels a bit to me when a girl get sick like this immidately after the first hook up like you're walking a tightrope between, on one side, not being affectionate enough and triggering buyer's remorse, or on the other side, being too affectionate, telling her you'll bring her soup etc, and triggering "I fuck this guy once and now he wants to marry me???" on the other.

I understand you're saying it's better to err on the side of too warm untill lock-in, yes?
 
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