French Girls?

[Gamecrasher]

Okay, so I'm in college right now, and there's been a lot of French exchange students coming to my dorm building in the past year. One group of 3 girls came last semester, and I got to know them really well (we exchanged numbers), but nothing led to intimacy with them. I'd say I'm stuck in the friend-zone with them. We'd go to parties together and stuff with my other friends, I'd flirt with them, they're giving me IOI's, but nothing sexual ever comes across. There's one French girl that I really like, and I've asked her if to grab a bite to eat at least 3 times last year, but she declined every time.

Now, there's 2 new French girls that are really attractive this semester. What should I do differently with them? I'm not sure if it's the French culture that makes game different, or I need to do things differently.

Thanks in advance!

 

[PinotNoir]

Open them with a kiss on the check Apparently, French people do this often, so it'll make them feel right at home.

And avoid friend-zone (which I made the mistake of recently in my last post). Take the girl you like the most out one-on-one. Pretend to be her tour guide and show her all of the great sites (one-on-one places like museums/parks/orchestras/restaurants, not clubs/bars) where you live (including your bedroom).

The problem I had with foreign exchange girls is that they have tons of new, exciting options, so you have to connect fast and move fast. I've very, rarely met one that was looking for a relationship as well (since won't be in country permanently... unless wanting to be a citizen), so this can be a pro or con depending on what you want.

 

[Gamecrasher]

Open them with a kiss on the check Apparently, French people do this often, so it'll make them feel right at home.

And avoid friend-zone (which I made the mistake of recently in my last post). Take the girl you like the most out one-on-one. Pretend to be her tour guide and show her all of the great sites (one-on-one places like museums/parks/orchestras/restaurants, not clubs/bars) where you live (including your bedroom).

The problem I had with foreign exchange girls is that they have tons of new, exciting options, so you have to connect fast and move fast. I've very, rarely met one that was looking for a relationship as well (since won't be in country permanently... unless wanting to be a citizen), so this can be a pro or con depending on what you want.

Would the kiss on the cheek work with the girls I already know, too? Because they know I don't do this at all. I'm actually a person that avoids doing this, haha.

 

[Rasta]

Hi there, Gamecrasher.

I'm French so I've hooked up with a couple of French girls in the past, in the US and in France. To answer your question: Yes, you should do the kiss on the cheek even with the girls who already know you. They will probably be very surprised when you do this, and will most likely question you about it. Tell them you know a French guy and he explained some of the cultural differences.

If you are of legal age, take her home for a drink. Legal age in France is 18, and drinking is part of the culture, so there is a high probability that they like good wine/exotic drinks. If you have the time, do a little bit of research on French foods and drinks. Use this research knowledge when talking with them...many French girls that come over to the US and meet American guys are shocked by how ignorant they are to outside culture. As long as you can lose the "America is the greatest country in the world" attitude, you will instantly look more attractive. Just make sure you don't look like you're trying too hard. Treat them like you would treat any other hot girl. Don't act different with them, as if they were outsiders (I see this happen A LOT with foreign exchange students).

Apart from that, just make sure you move fast. Like PinotNoir said, most of them aren't looking for a relationship, since they'll be going back soon. What they do want is to be able to go back to France and tell all their friends that they slept with a sexy American guy, just like they do in the movies...

Hope this helps. I'm at work and tried to type this out quick, but let me know if you have anymore questions...especially about cultural differences.

 

[Gamecrasher]

Hi there, Gamecrasher.

I'm French so I've hooked up with a couple of French girls in the past, in the US and in France. To answer your question: Yes, you should do the kiss on the cheek even with the girls who already know you. They will probably be very surprised when you do this, and will most likely question you about it. Tell them you know a French guy and he explained some of the cultural differences.

If you are of legal age, take her home for a drink. Legal age in France is 18, and drinking is part of the culture, so there is a high probability that they like good wine/exotic drinks. If you have the time, do a little bit of research on French foods and drinks. Use this research knowledge when talking with them...many French girls that come over to the US and meet American guys are shocked by how ignorant they are to outside culture. As long as you can lose the "America is the greatest country in the world" attitude, you will instantly look more attractive. Just make sure you don't look like you're trying too hard. Treat them like you would treat any other hot girl. Don't act different with them, as if they were outsiders (I see this happen A LOT with foreign exchange students).

Apart from that, just make sure you move fast. Like PinotNoir said, most of them aren't looking for a relationship, since they'll be going back soon. What they do want is to be able to go back to France and tell all their friends that they slept with a sexy American guy, just like they do in the movies...

Hope this helps. I'm at work and tried to type this out quick, but let me know if you have anymore questions...especially about cultural differences.

Thanks Rasta. We've done parties with wine and cheese before, so that shouldn't be hard. Also, I have a few questions:

Is it normal for a French girl to not initiate conversations with you? I find that I always have to put in the most work when talking with them, which I don't like since I'm a strong proponent of the Law of Least Effort.

And, if they have a boyfriend back in France, should I still try to get with them, or is that not an option?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Rasta]

Is it normal for a French girl to not initiate conversations with you? I find that I always have to put in the most work when talking with them

No, not really. Are you deep diving them? Get them talking about themselves, find topics that really peak their interest. If they are acting Aloof, this article might help you out Being a challenge to women

And, if they have a boyfriend back in France, should I still try to get with them, or is that not an option?

Well if she's interested in you and going after you, I personally wouldn't let that bother me too much

 

[Gamecrasher]

Is it normal for a French girl to not initiate conversations with you? I find that I always have to put in the most work when talking with them

No, not really. Are you deep diving them? Get them talking about themselves, find topics that really peak their interest. If they are acting Aloof, this article might help you out Being a challenge to women

And, if they have a boyfriend back in France, should I still try to get with them, or is that not an option?

Well if she's interested in you and going after you, I personally wouldn't let that bother me too much

I've only deep-dived with the one I like, which is the one that talks to me the most. I don't know why I haven't started deep-diving with the others yet, haha.

And I'm glad I don't have to worry about the boyfriend situation Thanks Rasta

 

[Gamecrasher]

Also, I'd like to know how I should react when they girls are speaking in French amongst themselves. When I'm in a group with them, they'll have a conversation in French, I'll smile and listen, and one of them will translate what they were saying. Is what I'm doing alright?

 

[Chase]

GC-

Also, I'd like to know how I should react when they girls are speaking in French amongst themselves. When I'm in a group with them, they'll have a conversation in French, I'll smile and listen, and one of them will translate what they were saying. Is what I'm doing alright?

Yeah, that's perfect. Smile politely and look attentive, and if it goes on for a long time, just sort of keep a small smile on your face and stare off into space. Look around, look out a window, admire the decor wherever you are, etc. Be a little exaggerated about it so they notice that you're there, out of the conversation, and explain what's going onto you, and don't forget you're there / ignore you.

Chase

 

[Gamecrasher]

GC-

Also, I'd like to know how I should react when they girls are speaking in French amongst themselves. When I'm in a group with them, they'll have a conversation in French, I'll smile and listen, and one of them will translate what they were saying. Is what I'm doing alright?

Yeah, that's perfect. Smile politely and look attentive, and if it goes on for a long time, just sort of keep a small smile on your face and stare off into space. Look around, look out a window, admire the decor wherever you are, etc. Be a little exaggerated about it so they notice that you're there, out of the conversation, and explain what's going onto you, and don't forget you're there / ignore you.

Chase

Awesome. Thanks Chase. I just wanted to make sure