Forum News Generative AI Is Not a Seducer: Let’s Keep It That Way (The Forum’s Official Position)

[Skills]

Again i am going to be a contrarian, cause we are doing total strawmaning, though i get the point.... You can use again ai, as an urban dictionary to make points.... I am going to give you an example, i will make an ai post right now in this sample, this is a post I will write.... I will give this sample post myself using ai..... This is a post here (so is not violating guidelines since is in the post to make sample, and my last post using ai), This is a sample on how i do my own post in my blog and here and other forums:


author skills "PROPER WAY TO USE AI for seduction":

First, lets find out what is ai from chatgpt:

Artificial Intelligence (AI) is the field of computer science focused on creating machines or software that can perform tasks that typically require human intelligence. These tasks include things like:

• Learning from experience (like recognizing patterns in data)
• Reasoning and problem-solving
• Understanding language (natural language processing)
• Perceiving the environment (like recognizing images, faces, or voices)
• Making decisions or taking actions based on data

There are different types of AI:

1. Narrow AI (Weak AI) – AI that's designed for a specific task, like voice assistants (Siri, Alexa), chatbots, or recommendation systems (like Netflix).
2. General AI (Strong AI) – A theoretical form of AI that can understand, learn, and apply knowledge across a wide range of tasks, much like a human.
3. Superintelligent AI – An even more advanced concept where AI surpasses human intelligence in all aspects (still purely hypothetical for now).

^ Ai can help you in seduction in different ways for example:

- if you are doing online dating which is a pretty structure linear concept if the author doing ai training is a really successful seducer in this niche.... For example based on my online experience, and i have COACHED successfully incel doing online, and other close to incel lovable losers how to improve on texting, i can see how being guided till the dudes get it the use of ai::

- For example if a guy i am feeding text lines, get to see that i am using the same response in certain texting, online responses, eventually after trial and error he will get the point and formulate his own twist...

For example i can train an ai to answer to "What are you up to or what are you doing right now" i can program the ai to say high value activity follow by a testing water soft close":

at the gym trying to look fit and sexy for our upcoming date
or
closing a deal with a client so i can have enough money to pamper you at our upcoming date in startbucks"
or
"I am at the dujo training mma so i can in the future protect you from creepers once we are dating"

The downside of using ai:

- you can get a program from a person that is not skilled enough in the niche delalying or fucking up your progress

- When the girl meets you she will be turn off since your vive does not match the vibe in the text....

^ But you know i am skills, i got you i will show you how to get around those 2:

once you get the hint, you will use your own vibe using the same structure of idea....

Done....


^ see how i just used ai, in an actual practical context.....


Anyways, i am done, is just i hate when we as a community sometimes get sooooo weird, and tunnel focus, that we fail to see how stuff can be used and we get stuck in the same old same old....

like again online dating was the devil, once in the seduction community now the community is all online lol, barely if any anybody doing cold approach....

look maxing was frown upon, now good luck if your fundamentals not there...



anyways, we can not have tunnel vision guys, i am not saying ai, is the answer, what i am saying it has its application just like this post i just made in 5 minutes using ai.....

Edited. programmed to train based on gameboy nitpick

 

[gameboy]

You don't "program" an AI, you train it. AI is good at creative writing that sounds convincing. It is not good at problem solving.

I just tried to use an AI to solve a technical problem (a description of an electrical circuit). I got a flawed answer. When I asked for clarification, the same AI gave me a different answer, admitting that it's first answer contained an error. So I basically got two answers that contradicted each other. If I didn't have any knowledge of the field, I would probably have taken the first answer at face value.

This has happened again and again whenever I used AI. Sometimes it gives impressive answers, and I learn a lot. But it's necessary to always be vigilant because it can also generate complete bullshit, while sounding just as convincing as if it was giving a correct answer.

 

[Skills]

You don't "program" an AI, you train it. AI is good at creative writing that sounds convincing. It is not good at problem solving.

I just tried to use an AI to solve a technical problem (a description of an electrical circuit). I got a flawed answer. When I asked for clarification, the same AI gave me a different answer, admitting that it's first answer contained an error. So I basically got two answers that contradicted each other. If I didn't have any knowledge of the field, I would probably have taken the first answer at face value.

This has happened again and again whenever I used AI. Sometimes it gives impressive answers, and I learn a lot. But it's necessary to always be vigilant because it can also generate complete bullshit, while sounding just as convincing as if it was giving a correct answer.

Semantics i will edit later to train, pwf gas an ai app that he trained...i just quoted in my sample the definition of ai, is that definition from chatgpa incorrect

 

[gameboy]

Semantics i will edit later to train,

OK I admit I was nitpicking a bit there

pwf gas an ai app that he trained...i just quoted in my sample the definition of ai, is that definition from chatgpa incorrect

I would say it is partially correct.

To quote ChatGPT's answer:

• Learning from experience (like recognizing patterns in data)

AI definitely good at recognizing patterns, but would I call that "experience"? Not unless we have the first AI-powered robots running around, I guess. Until then, it is just analyzing what others wrote about their experience, and generating plausible-seeming output based on that.

• Reasoning and problem-solving

It seems to be good at reasoning. As for problem solving, it gets some right, some wrong.

• Understanding language (natural language processing)

Agreed, AI is very good at that.

• Perceiving the environment (like recognizing images, faces, or voices)

Haven't tried that yet, so I don't know. I believe image and face recognition was already a thing before AI. Maybe this is getting better with AI but I have no experience with this.

• Making decisions or taking actions based on data

Making decisions - OK. But taking action? An LLM on the internet can't take any action since it doesn't have a physical body. So we'll have to wait for AI powered robots. (They'll probably show up sooner rather than later, but as of today I haven't seen or heard of any).

So to summarize, this definition seems to be about 50% correct, like most things AI currently.

 

[Skills]

OK I admit I was nitpicking a bit there

I would say it is partially correct.

To quote ChatGPT's answer:

AI definitely good at recognizing patterns, but would I call that "experience"? Not unless we have the first AI-powered robots running around, I guess. Until then, it is just analyzing what others wrote about their experience, and generating plausible-seeming output based on that.

It seems to be good at reasoning. As for problem solving, it gets some right, some wrong.

Agreed, AI is very good at that.

Haven't tried that yet, so I don't know. I believe image and face recognition was already a thing before AI. Maybe this is getting better with AI but I have no experience with this.

Making decisions - OK. But taking action? An LLM on the internet can't take any action since it doesn't have a physical body. So we'll have to wait for AI powered robots. (They'll probably show up sooner rather than later, but as of today I haven't seen or heard of any).

So to summarize, this definition seems to be about 50% correct, like most things AI currently.

Autism now you being ridiculous how does that affect the messaging of my fake post??

 

[gameboy]

Autism now you being ridiculous how does that affect the messaging of my fake post??

Wasn't referring to that, just saying I don't agree with ChatGPT's definition of itself since you asked me.

I'm sure AI can help with text game, but what's the guy gonna do once he has the chick on a date...

 

[Teevster]

This here is the exact reasons for why I want to limit the usage of gen-ai on the forum.

Guess my point has been proven.

-Teevster

 

[Skills]

Wasn't referring to that, just saying I don't agree with ChatGPT's definition of itself since you asked me.

I'm sure AI can help with text game, but what's the guy gonna do once he has the chick on a date...

Now you are moving the goal post or whatever the saying is please re read my fake post..

 

[Skills]

This is some answers i saw from the ai texting app video and the rebottles, just for context....


objection: the problem I have with this app is it seems designed for Alex’s personality, not every guy is like that so they’ll end up filtering for girls who are expecting something they aren’t.

rebottle: that is a potential concern, but you can directly communicate to the AI what style you want and it will tailor your responses around what you tell it. The AI has my comprehensive understanding of texting and even parts of my humor but the rest is within the users control.

objection: I feel like using an app that basicaly texts for you will lead to these people not learning shit, just relaying on the app. Getting the dates and then being awkard and weird during them

Rebottle: that is something that will happen for some. One of the things tho that was surprising to us during the beta stages of testing the process that lot of guys said that after a few weeks of testing the app, they started to internalize the advice and didn't really need it anymore. That happened quite often. But yeah there will always be some that don't learn but I think that's their proactive

objection: Something tells me that the barrier these types of men face is not a bad text game, it's that they're not physically attractive enough. Upgrading their texting isn't going to help them.

rebottle: well that's weird, because dozens upon dozens told me that text game was the issue and once they got that fixed their results significantly improved. There's a lot of good looking men that also struggle with dating,,,,

So more context, when you do sales such as stocks and mortgages (both things i sold), you get what is called a rebottle book, that rebottle book is field tested line for particular objections that are common:

- i am not interested
- call me back i am busy right now
- i don't have money
- is too expensive
- i am working with someone already
- your rate is too high
- i don't give my social security

etc....

you would have a field tested rebottle that works...

i am making the point that with online you get the same shit over and over and over:

- i don't feel comfortable going to your house
- what are looking for here
- i got a let you know i will not be sleeping with you if that is what you are looking for
- i am going to give you my ig
- what do you do for living
- what are you hobbies

etc....

is the same exact boring question and the same exact responses over and over and over and over.... boring as fuck sometimes you get bored and depress of how predictable it is and you give the same stupid answers and you lay the girl so easy (which is why i am not impress with online game guys at all)


my point is, someone like topcat, thomino, pob, me etc... can train an ai to have the same stupid responses and it will work.....

now i am saying i can see how ai can help in A BIT, part of the seduction.... That is all i am saying....

 

[Atlas IV]

i am making the point that with online you get the same shit over and over and over:

- i don't feel comfortable going to your house
- what are looking for here
- i got a let you know i will not be sleeping with you if that is what you are looking for
- i am going to give you my ig
- what do you do for living
- what are you hobbies

etc....

is the same exact boring question and the same exact responses over and over and over and over.... boring as fuck sometimes you get bored and depress of how predictable it is and you give the same stupid answers and you lay the girl so easy (which is why i am not impress with online game guys at all)

This is actually a sensible use of AI.

To most of us here, we do not consider online to be a real category of seduction at all (hence nobody posts LRs from online dating), and in fact it is a completely different process from real life seduction.

In the stickied thread for texting and online, there were a couple of great perspectives on OLD which have always stuck with me:

From @topcat:

I think i see where you guys are going wrong.

Online dating needs to be dealt with like marketing..

You need to think in “cohorts” and game cohorts not individuals. Create “funnels” and run your leads through these funnels.

The heart-on-sleeve, empathetic, inner game shit doesn’t start till face to face and i’m honestly starting to think cohort/marketing thinking can be applied to all game in some sense.

There’s no need for inner game online, you’re just pressing buttons.

Text goes in, pussy cums out.

Adjust the inputs until you receive favourable outputs.

and @TomInHo:

All this talk about apps and inner game is just lolz

Guys she’s not REAL

She’s just some pixels on a screen. It doesn’t really matter and online will always be a numbers game

OLD is just marketing. Even if you’re not a model you can create a profile that is a certain “TYPE”

Girls are not only banging Chads and Tyrones online ya know

They bang… bikers, surfers, fit guys, metro guys, androgynous guys, adventurer guys, artsy guys

You get the point

If your profile demonstrates you’re a certain type you’ll get more matches and can then run them through a funnel to meet up for a date

Save all the game stuff for the date

TBH the way you guys are talking on here, I actually feel doing some online will improve your overall game

Because if you’re struggling to create some images of your archetype that can get girls to swipe on you, then your fundamentals and presentation could use some work

Just think about all the AI’s and improved hooks you’re gonna get once you upgrade your image

When you think about OLD in terms of pushing buttons, pixels on a screen, and using input and to get a desired output (which is what it really is), isn't that exactly the sort of thing AI is designed for?

This, of course, has nothing to do with real seduction, because it is not real. AI cannot help you when you're out in the field or on a date, or even texting girls whom you met in real life (since it lacks to personal context you shared with each other).

But online dating is more like a mathematical algorithm or a game of chess - there are certain "moves" that will get certain "responses". It's predictable and mappable.

So thinking of it in terms of a pipelining process, it's logical then to assume that there are ways in which AI could streamline that.

It doesn't mean AI is relevant at all with what we talk about here (seduction in the real world). But I think it makes sense to consider that it may have a use case in its own field of application.