Girl genuinely too busy to meet, keeps texting me (TEXTS SHOWN)

[Lobo]

What I meant was that I'm bad at giving mixed signals / push pulling lol. I hear so much about push-pull and stuff but it always comes out strange when I do it.






Does your head positioning have a kind of "blast" too? I always read that you should be looking at women out the corner of your eye. Is the blast for your eyes at an angle?






Hmmm good note good note






You may have just pointed out a major flaw in my game. Now I gotta be more careful of when I'm reacting to girls rewarding me for what they want me to do.






Damn now that I'm thinking about it, the bored look has many practical applications i havent thought of. I think I ignored it before because I found that article lacking in detail on how to actually pull off the facial expression.

What I meant was that I'm bad at giving mixed signals / push pulling lol. I hear so much about push-pull and stuff but it always comes out strange when I do it.

Ah i see. I've never really thought about push pulling. And tbh I think that the concept as its widely used is a trap.

When you pull away, you're actively creating disinterest, a barrier in between the two of you.

The reason most people do it I believe is to get the girl to qualify, which brings more power to the person doing it(this is useful for direct gamers).

The problem with the concept is that people make the mistake of doing it just for the sake of doing it.

Instead I think Reward/Punish is a better framework.

Because when you look at it like that, you're not stabbing yourself in the foot when she complies with you. If you do this you condition her to not want to comply with you because you'll make her feel bad.

So I believe you should toss push/pull and focus more on rewarding and punishing behavior.

However you mentioned mixed signals so let me tie it to that. When you reward/punish by showing more interest or less, you don't need mixed signals. You push for compliance and as long as shes moving forward with you, your signals should be positive.

Why go cold on a girl whos actively working to get with you. It's dumb. Its like putting your dog on timeout when he's being a good boy.

It's only when the compliance stops that you flip it and go cold a bit. You dont want to start at 100 either because then its TOO obvious what you're doing. You want to scale it from 0 to 100 the less she complies.

And yes, the head does carry some of that force with it, although not much as the chest or your eyes.

The eyes can be ridiculously powerful. I can activate a girl's submissiveness by looking at her in a certain way, but ofc its congruent with who I am and my vibe.

The way you do it is by letting go of the muscles around your eyes. This is overcomplicated as the bedroom look, but if you can hold a conversation like this while looking her like this, she will gradually become horny.

Idk about the corner of the eyes or head on, but I do believe there are applications with reward/punish that I haven't personally seen yet. I mix it up, pressure on pressure off. Head on is heat/engaged, side eye is colder/elusive.

 

[TomInHo]

Though with both women, I found that if they like you enough, they will use sex to get you, if they feel it will get you. Older women will do it if you fully convince them they're sexy; younger women know they are sexy.

All women love sex, but from my experience most younger girls haven't learned how to truly enjoy it. It's crazy because some of them could have gone through a Hoe phase and banged multiple dudes but still not know how to orgasm. They enjoy sex but for a different reason

So usually the younger girls will use sex as a way to get attention from the guys they desire the most... This is one reason why younger girls tend to obsess over bad boys that don't have time for them

Because those guys tend to be unavailable banging other chicks, they feel the need to chase their validation through sex. Which is why when I'm in relationships with girls below the age of 24 I will be a bit more unpredictable, play up preselection, disappear from their life from time to time and use lots of push/pull behavior to drive their emotions into overdrive..

Also I make sure to train them how to orgasm with me to help differentiate from other guys, and keep them in the roster longer

But with older women, it's different

A lot of them understand their bodies and can enjoy sex for the pleasure it gives them. They are not fueled as much for validation compared to younger girls

You don't need too many games to keep them emotionally engaged because if you're rocking their world in the bedroom that's usually good enough. Which probably explains why these women chase the reformed bad boy types. The guy is edgy enough to get them hot and bothered but consistent/mature enough to keep them pleasured

Point #5 is pretty interesting, tbh. Though, there seems to be wiggle room to randomly check in to say something made you think about the last chat. It must be real! If you have multiple girls, make sure you've got a spreadsheet, or OneNote/EverNote with some details so you don't jumble up information!

I don't do wiggle room to check in. Because from my experience, if a girl is keeping contact with you but not setting a date... there's usually a reason. And 9 times out of 10 that reason is another dick

So pinging her all the time to check can make you seem too available, less powerful and kill a lot of the mystery. It's funny because as I'm typing this, I just had 2 girls reach out to me this morning that I haven't talked to 4 and 7 months respectively.

After I started adopting that approach I have old leads coming back into my life every month more eager to cum back into my life

 

[CassieDon]

All women love sex, but from my experience most younger girls haven't learned how to truly enjoy it. It's crazy because some of them could have gone through a Hoe phase and banged multiple dudes but still not know how to orgasm. They enjoy sex but for a different reason

So usually the younger girls will use sex as a way to get attention from the guys they desire the most... This is one reason why younger girls tend to obsess over bad boys that don't have time for them

Because those guys tend to be unavailable banging other chicks, they feel the need to chase their validation through sex. Which is why when I'm in relationships with girls below the age of 24 I will be a bit more unpredictable, play up preselection, disappear from their life from time to time and use lots of push/pull behavior to drive their emotions into overdrive..

Also I make sure to train them how to orgasm with me to help differentiate from other guys, and keep them in the roster longer

But with older women, it's different

A lot of them understand their bodies and can enjoy sex for the pleasure it gives them. They are not fueled as much for validation compared to younger girls

You don't need too many games to keep them emotionally engaged because if you're rocking their world in the bedroom that's usually good enough. Which probably explains why these women chase the reformed bad boy types. The guy is edgy enough to get them hot and bothered but consistent/mature enough to keep them pleasured



I don't do wiggle room to check in. Because from my experience, if a girl is keeping contact with you but not setting a date... there's usually a reason. And 9 times out of 10 that reason is another dick

So pinging her all the time to check can make you seem too available, less powerful and kill a lot of the mystery. It's funny because as I'm typing this, I just had 2 girls reach out to me this morning that I haven't talked to 4 and 7 months respectively.

After I started adopting that approach I have old leads coming back into my life every month more eager to cum back into my life

I agree with the reasoning. Though, I wouldn't say age is the ultimate arbiter. Let's say 24+ is what we're calling "older" - but first to make it clear, I agree re below 24 - I reckon those traits are there but they manifest differently, IMO, in that the "mature/consistent" is more they're more less susceptible to love bombing-esque tactics. Basically things which are "so obviously" a game. If you're a great salesmen/gaslighter (however, you want to spin it) you could arguably use similar tactics if you can tailor the approach/pitch, potentially.

It depends on how well you can detach, read and adapt to a person.

When I meant wiggle room, I didn't mean in a way to seem more available. Using a sales/relationship manager analogy, its more like outreach where you'll just say "hey" then leave if you realise it isn't going anywhere - depending on how you convey your point, you could generate intrigue and not reply until you deem it worthy/appropriate. No comms should ever make it seem she's particularly special, imo.

 

[Kaida]

Which is why when I'm in relationships with girls below the age of 24 I will be a bit more unpredictable, play up preselection,

Ooh this caught my eye.


What exactly do you do to play up preselection naturally, without necessarily having hot women around you to show off to your target?