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Towards more fullness of the human side of things
"seduction" as a layer on top of something else for a period. Maybe a reinterp of what sed is for me.
been a bit off.
Done some reflection and realised that i struggle with the intimacy side of things. at the same time its my biggest craving. So ill be focussing in on that. Looking a bit into the dimensions on it and how i myself react in intimate moments, openings, and connnections with women. How i mirror and play into it.
This outlines my current villain if you will.
At the same time all good guys i know points out that this part is such a strong base for the sexual sides of things. And i believe from field experience that its more powerful than sexual tension as a driver for meeting women. the power of what one might call "intimate tension". Thats secondary though and just continuing an earlier thing that unveiled while i investigated vibing and sexual tension.
So im changing things - new setup and heres how im reinterpreting some of the doings in my seductive doings:
- Im somewhat reconsidering seduction as a second layer on top of getting to know a woman. its juice i can add to foister a level of sex and sensualtiy, erotic addition to it. that is the wet side of things
- The questions i ask are not solely to control a dialogue, but to get to know her. To get aliveness from what she is. while adding to us getting to know each other. while making it elegant. Not from a self pretentious view point but for the quality feel of it inside the talks. To spur great conversations and shared experienced.
- Im not driving for a lay, im driving for connection and stepping into that over the lay. the lay is secondary and i wanna slow the process down vs SDL focus etc. This interestingly merges well with what i consider a principle of seductive excellence - the focus on creating shared experiences over the causal models which dominates the field.
- and escalation model for increased intimacy of sorts. like how much how fast. how to make it breathe. reading her and me for where how we take it somewhere. Myself as a stronger consideration in it. More flow with instinct and emotion. mature presence, not some internal image driven presence.
In general im changing from volume of things to enabling each things, in its own pace. A much better motivation. no emptyness in it.
its interesting as its dimension ive put more in the courship type way of being. But really its about getting to know one another on several emotional levels. And that feeds me back. I belive itll smoothn out my seduction even more but honestly i dont care about that element at the moment.
So im aiming for even keel on the intimate part of the connection. also on the emotional intimate side of it. Im sorta nuancing the dimensions of the relationship i have with women, which i know is a missing piece that stops the flow of the unfolding. Some tough past that created that. But somehow i realised this now.
the focus on verbals have been fun but im not motivated by it anymore. im more than good and partly wanna get back to what i call 3rd gen escalation (developing masfs 2nd gen escalation) combined with a stronger emotional load and maturing. Intimate maturing. Cause that space enables more of that than the verbals. Ill see if i can add verbals one by one to flavor it and help me move forward on the intimate side of things which channels also into much better sexual juice. But again as i write i know its not really the focus here. so need to stop my mind driving multiple directions.
mmmhh...
getting side tracked - need to get back to the core motivation in this.
I feel motivated on it again
itll be interesting to see how fast pulls will be from this base as i assume theyll be much more substantial experiences. not the most precise word for the flow of emotionality, intrique and happiness i sense in the direction but will do for now. Its good that things i cant precisely articulate starts arriving as it suggests my emotions guide this direction more. Just writing this awakes a powerful resource i know is close to seductive intent.
hm...
*taps fingers*
ah - now it starts unfolding...
"letting in" comes up too....
i need to investigate myself in that intimate zone. im very unaware i realise.
"daring to stand in new connections"
"where exactly lies the boundaries with some" - reference to girlfrie
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edit1
and as soon as i leave the writing it comes
... its svirweling... interesting, and theres intent in the midst of that..
good. this is strong. Will stay with it and tie op to connect with it
edit2
on rereading the above - its obvious seduction leads mainly to something sexual in my perspective. thats enlightning. Maybe i ned to broadn my perspective a lil cause its somewaht oversimplying it. Question is also if thats how i feel in engagements too. and if thats one thing to balance out much better. i think it is.
i need not to be too conclusive too fast but stay aware and not too caught up by my excitement - i sense fast conslusions in there instead of thorough understanding.
edit 3
hm..
im sensing a lot of confusion in this
so time to slow down
focus on the motivation
stop all the thinking and relating to "thoughts"
stick with the core motivation arising here and give it time and focus on its own
no need to try to explain it or ingrain it
just go for it
"seduction" as a layer on top of something else for a period. Maybe a reinterp of what sed is for me.
been a bit off.
Done some reflection and realised that i struggle with the intimacy side of things. at the same time its my biggest craving. So ill be focussing in on that. Looking a bit into the dimensions on it and how i myself react in intimate moments, openings, and connnections with women. How i mirror and play into it.
This outlines my current villain if you will.
At the same time all good guys i know points out that this part is such a strong base for the sexual sides of things. And i believe from field experience that its more powerful than sexual tension as a driver for meeting women. the power of what one might call "intimate tension". Thats secondary though and just continuing an earlier thing that unveiled while i investigated vibing and sexual tension.
So im changing things - new setup and heres how im reinterpreting some of the doings in my seductive doings:
- Im somewhat reconsidering seduction as a second layer on top of getting to know a woman. its juice i can add to foister a level of sex and sensualtiy, erotic addition to it. that is the wet side of things
- The questions i ask are not solely to control a dialogue, but to get to know her. To get aliveness from what she is. while adding to us getting to know each other. while making it elegant. Not from a self pretentious view point but for the quality feel of it inside the talks. To spur great conversations and shared experienced.
- Im not driving for a lay, im driving for connection and stepping into that over the lay. the lay is secondary and i wanna slow the process down vs SDL focus etc. This interestingly merges well with what i consider a principle of seductive excellence - the focus on creating shared experiences over the causal models which dominates the field.
- and escalation model for increased intimacy of sorts. like how much how fast. how to make it breathe. reading her and me for where how we take it somewhere. Myself as a stronger consideration in it. More flow with instinct and emotion. mature presence, not some internal image driven presence.
In general im changing from volume of things to enabling each things, in its own pace. A much better motivation. no emptyness in it.
its interesting as its dimension ive put more in the courship type way of being. But really its about getting to know one another on several emotional levels. And that feeds me back. I belive itll smoothn out my seduction even more but honestly i dont care about that element at the moment.
So im aiming for even keel on the intimate part of the connection. also on the emotional intimate side of it. Im sorta nuancing the dimensions of the relationship i have with women, which i know is a missing piece that stops the flow of the unfolding. Some tough past that created that. But somehow i realised this now.
the focus on verbals have been fun but im not motivated by it anymore. im more than good and partly wanna get back to what i call 3rd gen escalation (developing masfs 2nd gen escalation) combined with a stronger emotional load and maturing. Intimate maturing. Cause that space enables more of that than the verbals. Ill see if i can add verbals one by one to flavor it and help me move forward on the intimate side of things which channels also into much better sexual juice. But again as i write i know its not really the focus here. so need to stop my mind driving multiple directions.
mmmhh...
getting side tracked - need to get back to the core motivation in this.
I feel motivated on it again
itll be interesting to see how fast pulls will be from this base as i assume theyll be much more substantial experiences. not the most precise word for the flow of emotionality, intrique and happiness i sense in the direction but will do for now. Its good that things i cant precisely articulate starts arriving as it suggests my emotions guide this direction more. Just writing this awakes a powerful resource i know is close to seductive intent.
hm...
*taps fingers*
ah - now it starts unfolding...
"letting in" comes up too....
i need to investigate myself in that intimate zone. im very unaware i realise.
"daring to stand in new connections"
"where exactly lies the boundaries with some" - reference to girlfrie
------------
edit1
and as soon as i leave the writing it comes
... its svirweling... interesting, and theres intent in the midst of that..
good. this is strong. Will stay with it and tie op to connect with it
edit2
on rereading the above - its obvious seduction leads mainly to something sexual in my perspective. thats enlightning. Maybe i ned to broadn my perspective a lil cause its somewaht oversimplying it. Question is also if thats how i feel in engagements too. and if thats one thing to balance out much better. i think it is.
i need not to be too conclusive too fast but stay aware and not too caught up by my excitement - i sense fast conslusions in there instead of thorough understanding.
edit 3
hm..
im sensing a lot of confusion in this
so time to slow down
focus on the motivation
stop all the thinking and relating to "thoughts"
stick with the core motivation arising here and give it time and focus on its own
no need to try to explain it or ingrain it
just go for it
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