Got caught age lying, lost her

[Velasco]

Ya fuck this whore. Keep on keeping on. Set ur settings to private

 

[Skjöldr]

if this is the case at least facebook try to put it private and no show your friends...

My facebook is almost a ghost town except from profile picture and a few tagged posts from my dad. Everything is hidden. They didn't stalk me to find my age, they stalked my family. Now aint that weird. My friend list is private too, they must really have done some digging.

 

[Skjöldr]

Ya fuck this whore. Keep on keeping on. Set ur settings to private

I have, i got 9.numbers and a receptive instagram friday-saturday. Always on the road.

 

[Skills]

My facebook is almost a ghost town except from profile picture and a few tagged posts from my dad. Everything is hidden. They didn't stalk me to find my age, they stalked my family. Now aint that weird. My friend list is private too, they must really have done some digging.

^ major red flag and hard next territory... This is the best thing that happen to you, this seems like a train wreck...

 

[Skjöldr]

Yeah curious ass bitches man... They must have tapped onto my dad's posts from the tagged ones on my timelines. Still weird. The screenshot she received from her stalker friend was of my sister's profile. Odd stuff.

Anyways, made a solid approach with amazing intereaction in the gym. I closed when she started giving the anime eyes and my voice deepened and became slower. During the close she asked how old i was and we had a frame battle until i said i was 20. She said she was 26. I gave her the the "how old do you think?" And she wouldn't guess it. I think to girls it makes it seem like you are hiding something from them, so she started frame battling like "come on just tell me!!" very stubborn. Anyways she said i was sweet but too young. I said to her "Too young and too sweet" and said have a nice day and walked off.

I'm not finished experimenting with this comeback yet, but i just wanted to add it here.

 

[Fluxcapacitor]

@Peterdk234 dude! I occasionally run into this frame battle when I ask a girl to guess, I usually tell them I'll tell you as soon as you guess, I'm just curious how old you think I am. They usually accept this, it defuses the friction they've caused, you don't comply to them, you don't break frame, they go along with your request and it gives you the information you want (an acceptable age range guide).

If they don't accept this, I find repeating myself or readdressing their concern that you won't lie works.

I'm not a fan of your comeback it seems a little bitter that you're saying you're too good for them and it doesn't readdress the issue/objection I think there's better ways to handle this such as a typical rejection response of playfully saying she's breaking your heart or just being unfazed completely. This shows more maturity than hitting back in a passive aggressive yet cocky way.

You could ignore the bullshit and plow on as if she didn't say you're too young and run with the sweet comment. It's cute you think I'm sweet, we should grab some drinks this week, when are you free? (Field tested, worked roughly 60% of the time)

 

[Skjöldr]

@Peterdk234 dude! I occasionally run into this frame battle when I ask a girl to guess, I usually tell them I'll tell you as soon as you guess, I'm just curious how old you think I am. They usually accept this, it defuses the friction they've caused, you don't comply to them, you don't break frame, they go along with your request and it gives you the information you want (an acceptable age range guide).

This is good

And what i meant was, my comeback from now on when they ask how old i am, is that i will keep testing what @Bismarck said, to ask them to guess, they guess and then say close enough.

You could ignore the bullshit and plow on as if she didn't say you're too young and run with the sweet comment. It's cute you think I'm sweet, we should grab some drinks this week, when are you free? (Field tested, worked roughly 60% of the time)

Will try this, good stuff.

 

[Skills]

This is good

And what i meant was, my comeback from now on when they ask how old i am, is that i will keep testing what @Bismarck said, to ask them to guess, they guess and then say close enough.


Will try this, good stuff.

peter: guess

hb: whatever number they say

peter: how did you know are you have an amazing intuition and self awareness

hb: oh thank you blah blah

peter: But i am actually ___whatever looks age you want to use

^ so now you made it playful, then just reframe and move things forward....

Age is just a number, what is really important is vibe and chemistry, how we feel around in each other and how much fun we got together, how compatible we are in the beedroom, i had amazing relationships with girls 5-10 years older than me, and amazing relationships with girls 3-5 years younger than me.... Do you like wine or coffee? whatever she says, lets have a low pressure quick meet and greet to see if the chemistry is there, how does your schedule look like...

But again this girl was a noono, facebook stalking is a red flag brother

 

[Skjöldr]

peter: guess

hb: whatever number they say

peter: how did you know are you have an amazing intuition and self awareness

hb: oh thank you blah blah

peter: But i am actually ___whatever looks age you want to use

^ so now you made it playful, then just reframe and move things forward....

Age is just a number, what is really important is vibe and chemistry, how we feel around in each other and how much fun we got together, how compatible we are in the beedroom, i had amazing relationships with girls 5-10 years older than me, and amazing relationships with girls 3-5 years younger than me.... Do you like wine or coffee? whatever she says, lets have a low pressure quick meet and greet to see if the chemistry is there, how does your schedule look like...

But again this girl was a noono, facebook stalking is a red flag brother

Yeah this girl is out. I think i will conclude, mixing what you and @Bismarck says, this: I will ask them to guess my age and if they guess it i will say "close enough, you have a sharp eye and good intuition" and if she pushes the issue like "Close enough? So what is it?" then i will lie about my age to whatever seems fit. Otherwise i will let the issue rest and quickly change the subject. Now this gym girl yesterday who pushed the issue hard and engaged in frame battle, i will do what @Fluxcapacitor says, that is, tell her i will tell her as soon as she guesses it and that i won't lie, because i'm curious what she thinks. Then i will repeat myself until she gives in. If she doesn't then i will either experiment with giving in (not good, taking a step back, lose frame) or doing a take away.

 

[POB]

sometimes they open their mouth when they realized my name for almost a year is not my name lol....

You made me spit my coffee....sheeeeet LOL

Age is not an issue. I've fucked women more than 20 years younger than me, and almost 20 years older than me. They all came back for more.

I'd reply with "My bad, hope it's not a deal breaker...it's not personal, there's a good reason I do it. You guys look cool and I'd really like the chance to explain it properly". Chase already gave you a great longer example.

By the other posts, those chicks look like controlling freaks. Once I had a chick on Tinder who wanted to know everything about me. When I said no, she became obsessed and started to stalk every woman who was following me and commenting on my social media. Instant block is the cure.

 

[Lobo]

Anyways she said i was sweet but too young. I said to her "Too young and too sweet" and said have a nice day and walked off.

I don't have that many pulls under my belt but from what I see I think when you say "Too young and too sweet" it could be interpreted as you losing your state which only further digs your grave. It's already a losing battle, so at this point, a good comeback would just be a push-pull with more of a focus on the push to show your outcome independence.

You could say something like
"Oh really... if you insist. I mean, I really liked talking with you and I would like to see where this could go, but if that's what you need to do, you do you girl "

This is a hail mary at this point, but I don't think you have many options when she whips out a frame like that. Based on how well you did earlier in the interaction, she might change her mind about following her "rule," so this might net you a dub instead.

 

[Chase]

@Peterdk234,

So how would you move from here? Last contact was last night. She haven't replied to my message. Call her up? I dont have sisters contact info i only have this girl on my facebook. She havent unfriended me yet

I'd call her, yes.

Isn't it needy to try so hard to convince to give me a second chance?

Who's cooler, the guy who persists with the girl and gets her even though she resisted at first, or the guy who says "Nah" and doesn't get the girl?

Matter of opinion, I guess. But I like the guy who pushes through and makes it happen despite the obstacles.


@Rakkum,

What do you do then when someone you lied to ends up being one of your girlfriends? You just manage to hide it or pull some re-framing kung fu?

Funny story, I picked up a girl from a nightclub when I was 23 and she was 26.

When I met her, I was actually still just telling women my real age, and then getting rejected for it. Very frustrating.

So I met this girl, we started talking, and two minutes in she goes, "Wait, OMG, how old are you? You're not 23 are you? PLEASE don't be 23!"

And inside I am thinking oh my God, how does she know? So I just go, "Haha, no. I'm 26."

And she goes, "Oh my God, THANK God. I'm 26 too. I keep meeting SO many guys and we hit it off and then it turns out they are 23!"

And I was like, "23 years olds are so immature."

And she was like, "I know, right?"

So we went back to my place and shagged that night, and again the next morning.

And then I had her over a few more times.

And I think it was the third time she was over, I started to wonder, "What would happen if she found out I was 23?"

So I said to her, "Hey, remember when you asked if I was 23, and I said I was 26, and you were so relieved? I am actually 23."

She started flipping out and going, "Oh my God. You're joking, right? That's a joke. Right? You're not serious! You're joking with me, right? Please don't be serious!"

And I looked into her eyes, and there was so much panic in there, I didn't really have the heart to do it, so I just said, "Yeah, it's just a joke. I'm 26."

And she was so relieved.

After that, I always played the age guessing game with girls.

Younger Men and Older Women

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Chase

 

[Rakkum]

Here's what Svengali posted at Fastseduction.com on age (all credit to him):

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> Joe Smith <nmg***0@ya***.com [ safemail ] > wrote:
> ... If she calls and some how my age becomes a question (I’m 36 and she’s 21), during a
> conversation, how should I handle that?

In this group, I’ve implied my years, but haven’t stated them.
In real life, no one learns of my years and puts me into an assumed
category of this how I’ll be, and why don’t I look like, and all the
rest that goes into a defined age category that has been promulgated
upon the public by the media.

Go after the women you want. If your years are going to be an issue
for her, she will let you know it with her response towards you.
However, men of advance years, when they’re not trying to pick her up
(as she sees it), can get away with "murder", figuratively speaking,
because you’re just conversing with her. Yeah, right. Next thing you
know, she’s feeling this, and that, and this, and it all feels really
great to her, and you’re providing it---
boom! In like Flint. {Remember the movies?}

If she brings up age, you say "same as you--21. Isn’t it great now
that you know that neither of us is either too old or young for the
other, and we can just be as we are without all the bullshit that goes
with someone being of this age, or that, or this age?" [Immediately
change the topic with a question after this.]

Should she bring up the subject again, repeat what you said and did.
If it happens one more time, you say "I’ll tell you after our time
together, okay?". If she comes after you for your years after this, it
obviously bothers her, so you say "whatever years I am, you seem to
have a problem with my being so. That tells me we are not right for
each other. So good-bye." Then leave her.

If she drops the subject, don’t bring it up again. If she does, repeat
and do what I said above.

Having said all this, you are going to have to give up having and
celebrating birthdays --hers, yours and everyone’s-- because if you
don’t, you are going to pigeon-hole yourself into a place you don’t
want to be. {Become a sometimes Jehovvah’s Witness, or Druid, or
something else that doesn’t celebrate years.}

Over 21, as you are, is the only place to be...
and the only place you can be!

One other thing, as a mature man with experience, you can show her
things that guys of her own generation cannot, simply because they
haven’t had the experiences yet. Also, because your body parts don’t
respond as fast as they did when you were a teenager, you can, if
you’re good enough, have her experiencing sexual things that blows her
away and will have her coming back to you when --not if-- she strays
with that beefcake guy. {How older guys blow it with the younger women
they’ve acquired every time: she thinks, based on his young and beefy
looks, that he’s probably better for her, but once in the sack she
discovers otherwise. Older guy somehow learns of it, and instead of
taking a moment to realize what has happened --she learned what she
needed to learn-- becomes an idiot and blows it with his acqusations
and actions from that point on. BTW, I like to take this opportunity
to credit the late John Derek for teaching me that fastest, easiest way
to keep a younger woman wanting you, is by going after and having her
see that even younger women then her are interested in being with you.}

> JMR <speedyseducer@aol.comkillspam> wrote:
> OK, totally hypothetical situation here, since this one has never happened to
> me before, but, hey, what the heck... what about the reverse? I’m 23, so say
> I meet a GORGEOUS 32-year-old HB9 somewhere, and everything is going great,
> until she finds out that I’m 23, and she thinks that I’m too young for her.
> Since I couldn’t say "You’re probably not mature enough for me", and saying
> "Yeah, you’re probably too old to handle me" would most likely get me
> slapped... any thoughts?

In a reverse situation, you do as I said above. Only in this case you
do it with a little twist: you take her to places where you go, because
she is looking to capture some of her lost youth, and you never put her
down or let any of your friends/acquaintances put her down via her
years. Additionally, you allow her to show you the things she has
learned as a result of her years, and you make sure that she knows,
that you will not accept any type of put downs of your less-then-their
years from her friends/acquaintances.

Generally speaking, women with older guys want to learn and are willing
to acquiesce, whereas women with younger guys want to re-experience
youthful things and teach too.

As a younger guy, her friends are going to want a piece of you and your
pole too. If you go for it, be very discreet and hope to hell she
never finds out, because the very moment she discovers that you
accepted being with one or more of her friends/acquaintances, is the
very moment she will hate and dismiss you. Having said this, she can
and will be forgiving if she learns you’re doing it with women of your
own generation, just not of hers.

As the older guy, your friends/acquaintances are going to act like real
dickheads and feel because you got her, she really digs older guys, and
therefore they can get, and are entitled to have, some of that young
stuff too. So they will, not might, will do their best to buy her away
from you with things, and/or put you down every chance they get, just
so they can get to and have her. And don’t be surprised if some just
start grabbing (molesting) her because they feel "entitled", since
that’s the kind of woman they think she is, because she is younger and
with you. In other words, AFC behavior in the worst possible ways.

Other caveats:
If you’re an older guy, don’t try being a younger guy with her or her
friends. Just be as you are and roll with the punches, and you’ll soon
find yourself accepted for who you are.
If you’re a younger guy, don’t try being a an older guy with her or her
friends. Just be as you are and roll with the punches, and you’ll soon
find yourself accepted for who you are.

Enjoy.

 

[Water]

She's the weird one. I don't think lying about age is uncommon. I don't do it and probably won't, but it is really common, I know so many people who've done it, and have heard about it a lot.