Have I achieved peak daygame approach skill? or am I missing something?

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

I'm approaching huge numbers about 100 or 150 in one session, and I filter out everybody who doesn't seem confident in the idea of having a date with me. Or anyone who makes it seem like they're too busy in any near future, because I know that those kinds of girls will probably ghost me if I take their number.

I also erase their digits when they don't hug me after we agree on the date, saying that it's too early to touch. I do that because if you cannot even hug me (which is a pretty platonic thing to do) how are you supposed to suck me off on the first date?

So anyway I heavily filter them out when I approach so I don't have useless numbers in my phone, and don't have the situation where out of 10 numbers that I took - only two message me back, and I feel like absolute moron.

So the perfect situation is - I filter out absolutely everybody I can, and I have about three numbers out of 150 approaches, and out of those I have one or two solid good dates

So tell me what is your statistic on average?
What is a normal approach to date rates in a day game?

P.S.
And just a side note - I'm approaching in Moscow metro where virtually everybody is rushing somewhere and I only ask "hi. (waiting for her to remove airpods) do you have a boyfriend?"

I don't have time to talk how beautiful she is or how good the weather is or any of the other bullshit. And I am calibrated enough so that I get solid answers - they have a boyfriend, or they don't have a boyfriend or they're too shy. And in my opinion if any of those approaches lasted a minute it would have been the same result only longer -

if it's a rejection it would be a minute long polite rejection.

If she would have a boyfriend she would take all of my compliments and smile and say thank you and compliment me on being brave and approaching but still will not agree to the date because she has a boyfriend.

So what do you think?
Did I achieve Peak Day game efficiency or am I missing something here?

 

[AspiringStoic]

Of course! You are at the peak of this skillset. There is NOTHING else to do or learn.

You should write a book and educate everyone about achieving "Peak Daygame Efficiency". I am buying that book for sure.

 

[Spyce D]

Damn .

 

[Atlas IV]

100-150 approaches a day is unheard of. How often do you get laid from this?

 

[ulrich]

Taking you at face value, yes it seems you have achieved peak efficiency for your particular volume heavy style.

You maximized for volume to minimize the effects of some external factors you cannot control (her mood, her availability) or don’t care to manage.

I would say peak efficiency can look different in other players that prefer or are bound to optimize other aspects (meet to lay ratio, reputation, smaller pools of available women…).

From my perspective, the question you should be asking yourself is if this style of game that you have mastered is the one that serves you better and if it needs any tweaking to get the results YOU want (efficiency being a second tier consideration).

+Are you getting the women you want?
+Do you feel your time and effort expenditure is reasonable for the results you get?
+ Are you confident you’re not going to deplete your pool of available women?

If all are positive, you reached YOUR peak efficiency and no tweak is needed.

 

[AspiringStoic]

My first response might have come across as too sarcastic. I was being sarcastic definitely because the OP is asking a ridiculous question.

The GC site is filled with articles on improving your odds and a guy comes here asking if "hi do you have a boyfriend?" is all there is to a daygame interaction.

Like come on, are we really expected to answer that seriously??

But having said that, I am fully aware that this can bring results as long as enough volume is involved. I myself went on two dates years ago while doing a "dare" with my friend back then.

I went up to 45 women and said "Hey, I just saw you and think you look very pretty, I was wondering if I could take you out on a date?"

The entire line in one go. The opener and the close in one line. And amazingly I got 3 numbers and two came out on dates.

But the question of can I do more is still ridiculous because obviously you can do more. But if the OP can actually go out and do 100 opens in a session, and do this multiple times a week, he will definitely get laid as long as he is a normal or even sub normal guy.

In fact, I would definitely pick his brains about how he obliterates his AA so well. Or maybe he does not have it at all?

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

Moscow has 16 million people, so, the pool will never go empty. Also metro has all kind of girls coming from all kinds of parts of the city, creating a huge randomizer. In the last 1500 approaches I met about 6-8 girls who said I already approached them (while smiling, not as a anything negative).

As for results - I had about 13 dates last month with 8 girls sitting on my couch.
I am not saying I don't have a problem with other parts of my process (I do, I will ask about them).
I am just asking about how perfect daygame looks like.

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

+Are you getting the women you want?
It's Russia, bro. Even better. It's Moscow. I can confidently say they are all 9-10 for any westerner. 18-25 y/olds with amazing bodies and godly face features.

+Do you feel your time and effort expenditure is reasonable for the results you get?
Rest of my process is far from perfect, but when I will get there, I will be able to breeze thought 1 new girl (10 out of 10, Moscow, remember?) a week

+ Are you confident you’re not going to deplete your pool of available women?
Moscow has 16 million people. But If I continue to approach at the same station at the same times, I will get more and more approaches of the same girl. And I can always change stations.

 

[ChrisXKiss]

A good question is what is the quality of the girls you approach and what the quality of the girls you eventually get on dates. I can approach a lot myself when I am out, but still I would need quite some time to find 150 girls I would like to approach in a day. Assuming also I move around a bit to not burn down a particular spot.

As ulrich says, if all this is giving you the results you want then it's totally fine. It's not easy to talk about others statistics on average because not everyone is doing this type of game. Someone could have way better statistics because he approaches way less girls but in a more targeted fashion.

Also you mentioned how you open, but what do you do with the good sets, do you again instantly ask them out, or how do you get towards the close? Trying to see it from an efficiency standpoint, if you give enough time to the girl to even be open to coming out for a date, or you discard her if she is not fully on right away .

Yes the ones that see you and would instantly want to go out with you exist, and could be increased by how you present yourself, but all the others that are single and not smitten at the open could also be seduced.

Unless you specifically want to spend as little time in an interaction as possible, which doesn't mean that much though, it's not that she will then come to the date horny and jump on you. Some girls you may have to work with more in the beginning, and some more later.

PS I saw the responses about the girls in Moscow being 9-10s for most westerners, I mean what is the quality for you. If you tell me that you meet 150 personal nines in a day just give my number with a photo to the ones who reject you, and even if 2-3 per month are willing to travel to see me I'm made.

 

[AspiringStoic]

As for results - I had about 13 dates last month with 8 girls sitting on my couch.

Can't argue with stats like this. 13 dates in a month, I would take that any month. That is amazing.

And you are a lucky guy. I know the quantity of stunners in that city.

How many hours did you put into daygame in that month? How long do your sessions last and how many days per week do you approach?

Do you have a work situation where it allows you to be out at peak times everyday and spend 2-3 hours infield?

And did you ever have AA that you had to overcome? I would love to hear about these things.

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

my approach:
a lot of rushing russian girls in Russia in a rush hour (fuck yeah, puns!!)
I get to the side, smiling, waving: Hi!
girl gets her airpods out, listens
me, smiling, like this is half fun half stupid: do you have a boyfriend
she, mostly smiling: yes!
or if she says no:

I stop with her: so you go to a uni/to work?
her: yeah whatever bla bla
Listen, I actually need to go in the opposite direction, tell me, when are you free for a date?
her:
this day - great, she likes me - ok, this day at 7pm at the subway station 3 minutes from my house, see ya, have to go
or
I don't know, I am very busy - push a little, like I am also busy, let's free up one day, she still not sure, ok bye (I don't take these shitty numbers)

AT THIS POINT ANYTHING ELSE YOU DO OR SAY IS USELESS FLUFF

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

Quality of girls is the same as the quality I approach.
if you approach 150 fat american unshaved girls, you will get 2-5 dates with fat american unshaved girls
if you approach 150 six feet tall international models ( I am 6 4), you will get 2-5 dates with six feet tall international models

in daygame everthing is the same price - honda, maybach, porsche, so just don't approach "hondas"

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

And did you ever have AA that you had to overcome? - only first couple of thousand approaches 8 years ago, until I perfected the system

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

Do you have a work situation where it allows you to be out at peak times everyday and spend 2-3 hours infield?

I am a wedding videographer

 

[ulrich]

I am just asking about how perfect daygame looks like.

I don’t think we can get to community agreement of what “perfect” is… so I think it’s a work in futility.

Your approach process seems dialed to mastery and you are already aware of potential improvements in your post approach game.

But this definitely looks as S tier for me.

 

[AspiringStoic]

my approach:
a lot of rushing russian girls in Russia in a rush hour (fuck yeah, puns!!)
I get to the side, smiling, waving: Hi!
girl gets her airpods out, listens
me, smiling, like this is half fun half stupid: do you have a boyfriend
she, mostly smiling: yes!
or if she says no:

I stop with her: so you go to a uni/to work?
her: yeah whatever bla bla
Listen, I actually need to go in the opposite direction, tell me, when are you free for a date?
her:
this day - great, she likes me - ok, this day at 7pm at the subway station 3 minutes from my house, see ya, have to go
or
I don't know, I am very busy - push a little, like I am also busy, let's free up one day, she still not sure, ok bye (I don't take these shitty numbers)

AT THIS POINT ANYTHING ELSE YOU DO OR SAY IS USELESS FLUFF

This has really piqued my interest. I am going to test this out. My city is not as big as Moscow but its big enough.

I will test this out with 100 girls. I am still overcoming AA so if nothing else, its going to massively help with that and also developing the mentality of playing to win.

Will come back and report my experience after a 100.

 

[AspiringStoic]

Started off with 2 approaches already yesterday evening. I am not doing the boyfriend thing. My template is like this:

Me: Hi, I saw you and I thought you looked really pretty/stylish/nice so I wanted to come say hi.

Her response

Me: Are you from xyz? (If she is a tourist, finding out how long she is here.)

Her response

Me: That is great. I gotta run now, but I would like to take you out for a drink this week/weekend/next week etc.

(Then going for the contact)

Lets see how it goes. 98 more to go.

 

[POB]

Did I achieve Peak Day game efficiency or am I missing something here?

"efficiency [ U ]
the quality of achieving the largest amount of useful work using as little energy, fuel, effort, etc. as possible"

By doing high volume+high screening hyper direct daygame, and getting 2-3 dates per session (are they all ending up in bed?), I think in that particular niche that could be called efficient.

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

2-3 dates get assigned, then usually only 1 actually happens, and there I have about 70-80% chance of sex