Help on physical touch

[diegoC]

When talking to a girl in a pub/bar should I really only on incidental touch and moving her at first? When do I use more direct touches (like actually putting my hand on her back and rub her up and down, or on her thigh)? When we are on rapport?

Now, on dates. How does touching works. Is not like I'm gonna be able to move her before, maybe, and hour. Should I use incidental touch all time? O is the same logic as in bars/pubs?

Thanks a lot!

 

[Knight]

I'll put out some basics for you, friend.
When you're with a girl you should be close and constantly taking opportunities to touch her directly/indirectly - even the women you have just met. Other, more advanced forum readers will be able to help you more but an easy way to get the ball rolling i've found is to get women to show you things (bracelets, necklaces ect.) and touch her body while you're doing that. Be slow, and don't come off weird - also make sure you are genuinely interested in whatever you're asking her to hold out as it will come off a lot stronger. If you're sitting make sure she is close, either get her to come closer or you move to her. Once this is achieved, get your leg to touch hers, speak slowly and when you're making a point or she is showing interest reward her via touching her leg, shoulder, face or hand. You will notice, that more often than not women who are attracted to you will not move away - this is a good sign. Also when you're physically getting closer via escalating I've heard rubbing your leg/other object around her legs and vagina is a huge turn on - and there is sure to be only one thing on her mind during this

The last point can be used very effectively throughout escalations via modifying it to your needs.

- Knight

 

[diegoC]

Okay Knight.

Other things.

• I don't feel natural like touching a girl to reward her, or doing so when I make a point. I guess I'll have to fake it till it's part of me. If it looks natural she will asume it as that. Any thoughts on that? (touching to reward, how to feel natural about it)

• I read somewhere that Chase recommends not to hold hands with a girl. So, do I always have to mover her with me walking behind her touching her lower back (guiding)? I'm not sure about the not holding hands.

 

[Knight]

Okay Diego,
I still face this many a time with new people, but I know if I don't at least try I will never get better. Usually this feeling leaves shortly after seeing good results on the women i use it with properly.

I wouldn't personally hold their hand (not until a solid relationship has been formed that both parties are mutual in) but rather I was implying to touch their hand given the chance. I wouldn't 'guide' her via using your hand on her back all the time - you should however use this tactic to guide her out of harms way sometimes by placing your arm in-front of her to stop her from walking onto the road before it's clear and things like that. Use the hand on her back/shoulder every now and again if you need to steer her somewhere however always be careful because gestures such as this shows dominance, control and other things. This is great and you will see high status individuals use it all the time however you don't want to make her feel like you are extremely dominating, just rather in control and charge naturally. I'm not explaining this the greatest but I'm sure you understand what I mean. Although with all that being said - you should be touching her as much as possible, even when walking.

Sure, when you're getting started with all this new information that you've learnt from the website you're going to possibly screw up a few things. You will luckily start to see results very quickly and any mistakes will be quickly forgotten by the girl involved and yourself. One thing I tell myself when I'm worried about touching someone is 'Look, you know the process for this interaction. You've read the post on exactly this interaction multiple times and you will regret things later if you do not take the chance, you will never know if you don't try. Chase and Franco aren't here to guide me, and you want to know why Knight? It's because they've worked hard to do this hundreds of time to the point of recipe perfection and now they're living their life. That's going to be you as well but first you have to get over the fact of saying/doing something to another bunch of atoms.' and while that's going through my head I do it and the girl loves it and the interaction progresses and I'm just there like 'wow' and everything falls into place.

- Knight

 

[foxman2]

What works for me is the "questioning touch." It's the best "first touch" move in my opinion. It is very natural.

I extend my arm, palm facing up, and briefly touch her shoulder/arm/ thigh (if sitting down) when I ask her opinion on something. Be sure to move your arm slowly and confidently, it should be very natural. I like to do this two, maybe three times in a span of fifteen minutes. For me, this almost always results in the girl touching me back, and your problem will be solved.

From my personal experience, the touch is maybe the most important thing you can do, a lot of guys never touch, and that hurts them a lot. Most guys can touch a lot more than they do. Give the "questioning touch" a shot, and I bet you won't be disappointed.

 

[diegoC]

You are right Knight, it's about doing it. I will have to improve on this and just do it. I can imagine myself next time thinking something among your lines like "You have to do it or you will not improve. Fuck the outcome or you won't never do it blablabla … ".
Foxman2, seems like a nice technique. If I'm in the situation of asking some opinion I will try it sometime.

Thanks guys!

 

[Altimeter]

You know touch is THE most important thing when communicating and seduction. I mean I know this deaf dude who goes to clubs and has crazy success with women so you have to realize the importance of it.

Honestly, if you want to kiss or have sex with her. How will you do it without touching her.
I mean will you talk for an hour about an intellectual subject with her then go like, hey... wanna fuck ?

touch her, touch her hands, when you first kiss someone on the cheek kiss her boobs as well twice, open your legs so they touch hers when you sit down, hold her hands tap her arm whatever just touch her already