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How attached women give mixed signals

Xpander

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I am new here and I was hoping Chase could answer this post as it refers to a couple of articles written by him.
First of all, the content of your posts is really great. The best I’ve read so far, and it really stands out from all the misinformation out there! It doesn’t only apply to seduction, but it teaches you how to interact with people in general.

I have a question. It’s a theoretical one. I hope people don’t get offended by the topic , I saw some angry replies after your post about women who have a boyfriend. The reason for my question is that quite often I meet some “attached” women who invite me home, or hint that they want to come home with me. I haven’t capitalized on it yet. But it is tempting sometimes, as relationships often end anyway. So could you share some insights around how women who are “attached” mix up their signals of interest? I’ve read your posts about how women show interest in general (mixed signals, unmixed) and how to deal with women who has a bf (3 things to do, 7 things not to do when she has a bf) which are excellent posts. But my question is more on a focused area of the interaction with such women.
In your post about how women show interest (mixed signals, unmixed) you mention how not loosing reputation/face is extremely important to women. This must be even more so true with women in the “cheating zone”, who are looking to cheat or actually do it?
So what can you expect when interacting with such women, both when you two are alone and when you are together in a group. I mean, when we are in a group of people which to it is extremely important for her not to reveal her true intentions with you, she must be throwing in some very mixed signals? I mean, her risk is to come off as a slut, to lose friends, maybe her job and her relationship with bf/husband. It could be that the attraction is not yet even confirmed between the two of you (assuming there is attraction).

So my question is maybe a bit strange, but her it is: When you read other posts about signs of interest and signs of disinterest; if she mentions her boyfriend she is not interested. But could it be normal that she talks about her bf when you two are in a group of people who already suspect that there is something going on between you? And this would probably be intentionally, to cover up, or to discourage you to make a move or flirt while in this group (if this wasn’t obvious). Could she even mention bf when you two are alone as well, in order to not come off as a slut or to save face in case you weren’t interested anyway? And my last question: How many times should you ask her to accompany you if she keeps resisting, but clearly is interested?
I hope you could share some experiences around this :)
 

Thinkingenigma

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Great question! I'm looking forward to seeing Chase's answer. I was in a similar situation until last week. She was heavily flirting, and even asked me out, but she wouldn't stop talking about her BF. Turns out that the relationship was nearly over. We had our first date last night. In this case, I see exactly what was going on, but I've been in similar situations where it wasn't nearly as clear.
 

Franco

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Hey Xpander,

When you read other posts about signs of interest and signs of disinterest; if she mentions her boyfriend she is not interested. But could it be normal that she talks about her bf when you two are in a group of people who already suspect that there is something going on between you?

This could be very normal. However, I believe there is a post somewhere where Chase mentions that, if a girl has to choose between protecting her reputation and you, then she is going to choose her reputation every single time.

Here's what I've noticed though: sometimes a girl who is in a relationship will feel free to flirt with you even when she is around her friends. What I've discovered is that, sometimes these friends actually know that she is having problems with her boyfriend (and they may even hate him, too), and they could actually be trying to HELP the girl hook up with another guy that THEY really seem to like in order to convince her that there are other great fish out there in the sea! This may sound crazy, but it's true. I was in a situation once where I was talking to a girl for over an hour, and she had mentioned she had a boyfriend. Luckily, all of her friends took a quick liking to me. They actually offered to give me a ride home with them because we were downtown, so I went home with them (with the girl in question sitting on my lap during the entire ride) and I took her to her own room and bedded her that same night.

Could she even mention bf when you two are alone as well, in order to not come off as a slut or to save face in case you weren’t interested anyway?

Yup. By mentioning her boyfriend, it can definitely be a weak attempt at saving face for anything that might happen between you two. Remember, what's ten times more important than a girl's words are her actions. You should be able to judge by her actions whether or not her mention of the boyfriend was a way of warding off potential suitors in the vicinity or a way of protecting her reputation if she thinks she's found a guy to take home for the night.

How many times should you ask her to accompany you if she keeps resisting, but clearly is interested? I hope you could share some experiences around this :)

You should absolutely persist until she follows your lead or walks away. If there's one thing I've learned about girls with boyfriends, they can outright be the most flirtatious girls you talk to on any given night. I sense this is for two reasons:

1) She already has a boyfriend. Although they may be having problems, she still has someone to go home to at night, so she has less to lose emotionally if she faces rejection. If you've ever had a girlfriend (that you've cared about), think about the times that you've talked to other attractive women when she's not around. There was probably a lot less stress and you probably came across as a lot more confident, right? It's the same thing with women.

2) She's probably giving you a very "take-it-or-leave-it" opportunity when she meets you. You either take her to bed that night in a suave, swift fashion, or you lose your chance. A girl would be greatly risking her reputation to "take things slowly" with a guy over text and dates when she already has a boyfriend. It's much easier for her to move things forward very quickly that one night where she knows her boyfriend won't be around. There is a lot less risk of her reputation being zapped.

I hope this provides some insight!

- Franco
 

Flames

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That's a very good observation Franco and its 100% what I've seen, from my women friends.

I remember over hearings convo between 2 of them, 1 married, 1 in a relationship talking about it not being a great idea to get involved with a guy in a relationship. I k-closed one of them and my mate k-closed the other. They absolutely will get you together if their friend is 'having difficulty' with a current BF and what's more they'll be very discreet about it, like some kind of 'girl code', but also you absolutely have to play it cool and any sort of neediness is out of the question.

When it comes to mixed signals I think women almost always try and fit into the role they've already set themselves and when a sexy guy comes along and disrupts it, it can throw them off a bit.
 

Xpander

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Thanks, your insights were really helpful, and will come handy the next time opportunity strikes.
 

Verisimilitude

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My problem is that I just cannot will myself to do something like this. I had an ex cheat on me at a very rough time, and I told myself I wouldn't be that guy. Problem is, I already have been that guy (the girls just didn't tell me).

Is there any way you guys reconcile it in your minds?
I'm not judging you at all, I'm actually looking to move past my silly morals
 

Franco

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Hey cccrunner,

Chase had two posts that completely blew my mind on the topic of boyfriends and relationships. I think if you read the following two articles, your conscience will be relieved. I know it worked for me.

Girl Has a Boyfriend? 3 Things to Do, and 7 Things NOT to
How to Prevent Cheating by Your Girlfriend

His main point here is that you, as the man, are responsible for your girlfriend's emotions. If you are giving her what she actually wants out of a relationship, then she won't feel the need to cheat. If you aren't, then you are basically "trapping" her in a relationship that doesn't fulfill all of her needs, so she will eventually rebel and seek those needs elsewhere. Very insightful stuff by Chase, and he absolutely nails this topic on the head here.

I hope this gives you what you're looking for!

- Franco
 
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