How can you indicate to a woman that you don't kiss and tell?

[abond0082]

Women like the alpha players who always brag and kiss and tell.

I pride myself for being a man who keeps secret. The woman who was willing to cheat on her husband with me, said she doesnt want my friend to know we made out. Guess what 2 years lateer he still doesnt know.

How can you indicate to a woman by words, bahaviors and conviction that you are a such a person that if she gets naughty with, no one will know.

Is also there a girlschase article about how to do that, that I can read?

 

[abond0082]

somebody care to help a bro out?

 

[Glow]

read up on sexual frames. there youll find your answer. one such frame is the discretion frame.

 

[abond0082]

Thanks, I will search but if you know one chase article about discretion frame I would appreciate...I will do my homework first

 

[COCPORN]

Women like the alpha players who always brag and kiss and tell.

This is not true. It is not false.

Some women like alpha players who do this some of the time. This is not who you want to be if you want to be consistent. It is also someone you will model at your peril.

Takeaway: If you find women respond to this behavior, there is a 80% chance this is not why they are responding well to this with this person. The guy does it because he can get away with it. He has something else going for him that you are not enclosing (to yourself).

I pride myself for being a man who keeps secret. The woman who was willing to cheat on her husband with me, said she doesnt want my friend to know we made out. Guess what 2 years lateer he still doesnt know.

How can you indicate to a woman by words, bahaviors and conviction that you are a such a person that if she gets naughty with, no one will know.

Is also there a girlschase article about how to do that, that I can read?

I know this is a Chase forum but:

• There is an actual branch of game called Secret Society. There are pages and pages written about it. This would be older Tyler posts. You should read this even if it is crude, because it is part of history
• Framing stuff the way you want is a key component of what Captain Jack talks about in Game Dynamics

Your idea that women want people who brag, kiss and tell give me the indication that you are not in an environment where you're doing particularly well. Women who respond positively to bragging is not the kind of woman game is designed for. That would, in my opinion, be a red flag. They are bad for you.

 

[Skills]

Women like the alpha players who always brag and kiss and tell.

I pride myself for being a man who keeps secret. The woman who was willing to cheat on her husband with me, said she doesnt want my friend to know we made out. Guess what 2 years lateer he still doesnt know.

How can you indicate to a woman by words, bahaviors and conviction that you are a such a person that if she gets naughty with, no one will know.

Is also there a girlschase article about how to do that, that I can read?

Incorrect, bragging is a display of lower value game 101

kiss and tell is totally anti seductive and will trigger asd..... The secret society is based on not kissing and telling, specially when seducing married women, women with boyfriend and women in social circles... For something like "kissing and telling" to get out would destroy her reputation...

A good angle that you can use to frame not kissing and telling is how men judge women as sluts and whores and how is not fair, and how you do not judge, women should date as many dudes as possible and pick the best instead of settling blah blah... When they are married and with bf, how should stay with them, and just have your fun on the side to bring excitement and strengthen the relationship blah blah... Teevester has one that i forgot about keeping secrets ( a whole routine, i don't use it, but he has one tailor for this, i forgot how it goes, something like i hope you can keep a secret blah blah)

 

[COCPORN]

God damn it, Skills.

Bragging can be a display of high value. People are going to look at what you do, then how you do it and try to imagine who you are.

If you like bragging and you do it with confidence it only signals that you can sport "low value game". You have seen these guys, and I know you are unable to put them into your framework. This is the truth: People who can do whatever they want will always win this. If they carry no sign of battle scars even doing "low value game" (and possibly because of) they will be immensely attractive.

I came here from hiatus. "Incorrect" is a bad word to use in a discussion. Don't deal in absolutes.

 

[Skills]

God damn it, Skills.

Bragging can be a display of high value. People are going to look at what you do, then how you do it and try to imagine who you are.

If you like bragging and you do it with confidence it only signals that you can sport "low value game". You have seen these guys, and I know you are unable to put them into your framework. This is the truth: People who can do whatever they want will always win this. If they carry no sign of battle scars even doing "low value game" (and possibly because of) they will be immensely attractive.

I came here from hiatus. "Incorrect" is a bad word to use in a discussion. Don't deal in absolutes.

brag·ging
/ˈbraɡiNG/
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noun

1. excessively proud and boastful talk about one's achievements or possessions.
   "she interrupted their endless bragging"

^ the only way i can see bragging working is how i do it, = in a way that is so ridiculous and silly that is obvious i am just fucking around, otherwise can you please provide and example on how bragging can work...

 

[COCPORN]

It works exactly the same way everything else works.

You dance. You look excellent or you look like a fool, but you do it. And it is you and what you stand for. And nobody can change that. If you do well, you are the testament to your actions. You have no scars. A girl that thought you looked ridiculous two hours ago will think you look cool now because you're still doing it and others are responding to it. If you do badly, you will go home with your head high, and people will respect that.

People who brag about their accomplishments confidently know that they can do that and still do well. This is such a simple thing to understand.

This is literally what peacocking is.

(The original peacocking theory. You do well in spite of, which makes you more attractive.)

Your idea of only doing things that seem high value at first glance is low value.

Unless you keep doing it confidently.

 

[Skills]

cocporn we agree more than we disagree in this one, i think the context is the problem:

bragging: i fucked 10000 girls (jmlv cringe, just watch one of his videos so you see what i am talking about)

displaying higher value as you talk about your accomplishment: "I don't like sex, in fact i hate sex, what i like is really passionate good quality sex were is a deep connection and the women i am with submit 100% to me and let go of any judgement, that is why all the women that have been with me tell me that they have never achieved such deep orgasms blah blah" --- teevester...

see one brags and is a total turn off and display of lower value....

the other one is talking about his accomplishments...

Bragging is not attractive, talking about your accomplishment in smart, calibrated, tactical way (dhv) is... i hate using pua acronyms, but is just to put into context.

DHV is any action or story that increases the perceived value of a pick up artist in the eyes of his target or the group. There are certain values that raise the perceived value of a pickup artist

 

[abond0082]

Guts please do not get off topic.

I pride myself to being secretive, I believe so and I gave an example.

Just want to know how to communicate to a woman that I don't kiss and tell which IS TRUE for most part.

The woman who was married that I dated for a while, HER identity in my city is sealed. No one knows her name, where is from etc...I want to communicate to women that.

 

[Skills]

Guts please do not get off topic.

I pride myself to being secretive, I believe so and I gave an example.

Just want to know how to communicate to a woman that I don't kiss and tell which IS TRUE for most part.

The woman who was married that I dated for a while, HER identity in my city is sealed. No one knows her name, where is from etc...I want to communicate to women that.

bring that story up...

You: can you keep a secret?

her: yes

you: are you sure, because now a days is hard to trust people everybody goes posting their lives in social media....

and bring up the story of how once you dated a married women and blaha blah...

tbh this is not really needed, unless she is married and with a bf and is somewhat hesitant and kind of brings it up...

once i made out with a girl and told her bf (because it was someone i knew), they ended up breaking up after that.... And even after i betray her trust and she was concern about me telling her bf i slept with her (the lay report is in sedfast).

As you know with women with bf or hubby, the frame is that you do not want them to leave the bf/hubby and your are not a clinger and stalker...

Question why are you so concern about the no kiss and tell, usually women assume this with seducers anyways...

 

[abond0082]

"usually women assume this with seducers anyways... "

So basically if she is attracted to you she will assume you dont kiss and tell.

If she doesnt think you are attractive she will assume you do kiss and tell ????

If that is the case than why we learn anything.

I'm concered because I want to get laid and date lots of beautiful women. That is why I want her to know that.

 

[Teevster]

Me: do you know what I think is virtuous?
Her: no?
Me: people who don't kiss and tell.

Sometimes simplicity is all you need.

 

[Skills]

"usually women assume this with seducers anyways... "

So basically if she is attracted to you she will assume you dont kiss and tell.

If she doesnt think you are attractive she will assume you do kiss and tell ????

If that is the case than why we learn anything.

I'm concered because I want to get laid and date lots of beautiful women. That is why I want her to know that.

I am saying this is most of the time a none issue (In the context of cold approach or gaming strangers online). The time i got a bit of this, was with exes of dudes i know...

"why we learn anything?" cause you are worrying about something that happens in very rare situations... and if you have to address this she will bring it up indirectly.... Again usually women in relationships, or work, or social circles....

 

[Grand Pooba]

I think that it's best to share stories as a frame, rather than saying something like this outright. I like to share on my dates a story of how I didn't like living in a certain city because all the guys there kept bragging about their conquests at parties, and then kept talking about it, then contrast myself by directly telling her that I think it's important to keep things discreet between a man and a woman, as intimacy is only meant to be shared between those two people and not broadcast to the rest of the world.

Me: do you know what I think is virtuous?
Her: no?
Me: people who don't kiss and tell.

Sometimes simplicity is all you need.

Also a good approach. It's fair to be pretty direct here.