How many approaches you do?

[Guest0291]

Emotional start there. "Are you fucking kidding me?" Seriously, relax dude. As a note for anyone else, I'll be making a separate post on the topic, feel free to comment there.

1. Never mentioned how much time eating would take, could be 10 minutes total, could be an hour total. Just mentioning factors that take up time. Really, this triggered you bra? Would be comical though if you're cold approaching girls while chewing a burger down. But I really don't see any points that actually counter mine here.

Let's take Arnold as an example. Arnold worked out 5 hours a day every day. Probably slept 8 hours a day for growth as well. 8 + 5 = 13 hours. 11 hours left to go. Average job is 8 hours a day, I don't know what Arnold's hours were, so let's go with that. 3 hours left. Minus commuting and all other extras like the ones I mentioned, you have 2 left (especially if you're in southern California, where commuting is going to take up a large part of your life regardless). 2 hours left in his schedule. How's that "24 hours in a day" concept looking now? Let's take my day, I have 4 hours to do what I want. Not much.

But this ignoring the point of why the fuck would I go waste my 2-4 hours of free time on such a counterproductive strategy that none of your points even bothered to argue the effectiveness of? Let alone a weekend. Do you see now what your point is missing?

Think cold approaching isn't a counterproductive strategy? Your own "tribal elder" admits it took 11 months to get his first lay here. "Well we're all individuals, it's different for everybody." Then why the hell are so many people stating the same results? It's even funnier that these guys are propping it up like "Yeah, you have to want it! You have to go through the fire!" You really really don't. Why does everyone think getting laid regularly with new girls is such a hard thing to do? Also, why such passive aggression in that thread with comments like : "Yeah it's fucking hard but do you want to be soft? Comfort is overrated and mediocre people are addicted to it." For the last time: getting laid regularly is not some magnificent feat. Cracking the code is not difficult at all for all experience levels.

Side note:

And with Cold Approach, no one expects you to go approaching girls 7 days a week, so it's not a massive time sink.

Is that a fact? Aware me on threads where people say this. #imnotaware Oh wait here's a thread where someone actually does recommend doing so here.

And someone actually said to throw shit against the wall and see what sticks in that thread: "Go out and get those experiences - throw everything against the wall and see what sticks." Makes no sense mate. Last I checked normal social skills aren't developed this way.


2. You honestly can't be serious. There are members here who claim to have cold approached 1000s of girls and for some reason still don't have a real handle on getting laid regularly. Really dude, the proof is in the boards. You have guys that have accounts from 3 years ago here that still don't have a handle on it, imagine how many women they probably had to talk to in 3 years, yet still low-tier success. But I'm over here suggesting advice I think is better, and worst case scenario they can ignore it. Is that really something for you to get so upset about?

This is still disregarding why a guy needs to cold approach so many girls in the first place.

3. Besides that your question is missing the point, I'll answer. No I'm not scared of rejection, I just don't like wasting my time and seriously doubt that gaining more rejections makes you better as I already outlined with "Brb getting better with girls by dealing with more girls that don't like me!" How does that make any sense? As a guy that tried the cold approach thing for a good amount of time, I say it doesn't make sense. At all.

Yeah, you get rejected every now and then. That's normal. Doesn't mean there's any fucking logical reason to go out and force getting rejected so many times. Why are you, and other members, so offended by this notion? What, you didn't know that you don't have to get rejected 1000 times to get good with girls, it could just be 10-15 or even less before you get results (i.e. laid) with little wasted time or effort to boot?

To anyone reading, Traceur is going to believe what he wants to believe so I'm not commenting any more. (Unless he would like to challenge my stance on everyone having 24 hours)

Just challenged it, no regrets. Talk to you soon.

 

[Marcellus]

Was gonna formally reply but I would rather play NBA2K, soooooo...........

Traceur telling me he only has 4 hours to do what he wants

 

[Bboy100]

Number of approaches is irrelevant. I could do 5 per night and get laid, while you do 30 and get laid. I picked girls who were more open to talking to someone, you just approached every girl you saw. Different strategies, same result. Only thing I want to add here is that you probably want to do a higher number until you're confident in your ability to actually tell which girls are interested. If you can't do that yet, just stick to talking to as many as you can on any given outing or night.

 

[Big Daddy]

@Bboy

I saw your post on metrics and wrote an in-depth reply and ultimately decided not to submit because I thought we could get into discussing small details that didn't matter as much when you consider the big picture.

But I feel that I should make a caveat when you say things as strong as "approaches are irrelevant," because I'm sure it won't be very hard to find a direct correlation between number of approaches and lays.

It's not a perfect metric (there isn't any), but it's a good indicator (the word you originally used). It's like saying going to college is not a good indicator of success because no college is the same and not everyone can become successful even if they went to college, when in fact there's is a correlation between going to college and having a successful career.

Of course, the ratio lays/approaches tend to go up over time. So when someone is asking how many approaches are necessary, etc they are ultimately asking how far they are from said result and calibrating their results against everybody else's (in which case, the number is relevant!).

- BD