How to open indirect in street game

[Velasco]

ive never had a girl not wanting to talk about travel
its one of the safest topic choices in the initial phase of light topics

I agree. Then again I game in a city where EVERY girl travels lol.

 

[BigPapa]

When talking about travelling I focus on sub-topics that encourage tourists to behave in sexually-liberated ways.

Like a sudden realization that while travelling nobody really knows who you are. Plus you left all those nosy, judgmental people behind in your home country. This leads people to feel a powerful sense of freedom to re-invent themselves, do whatever they want. . . and live their best life during their trips. Or the almost giddy excitement people feel. . . as they explore a different environment and engage with new perspectives.

These are a few examples of how I might set the tone for the unfolding seduction. But there are some nonverbal things I do too. . .

Ah yes , I understand .

When the discussion would came about travelling , I would steer it more in the direction of actually talking about places so we build rapport , rather than use it as way to actual sub-communicate freedom & stuff like that .

I was talking about this with Velasco , and came to the conclusion that is better not really say anything about me at all (so I do not give women any ideas on why I would be a good boyfriend) , but now that I understand exactly where you are going to , I think it is better to try this before taking drastic decisions

But Velasco , do not forget that the topic of our private discussion was not about that girls auto reject because I talk about travel or whatever .

The topic was about that after I work on my attainability , then qualify her, and then building some comfort/rapport, everything with a sexy vibe , she would start to frame quite aggressively the boyfriend - girlfriend frame and that she would auto reject after I would reject her frame and maintain my lover frame , mainly because she thinks that I do not take her seriously & just want to bang her

 

[Velasco]

she would start to frame quite aggressively the boyfriend - girlfriend frame and that she would auto reject after I would reject her frame and maintain my lover frame

Why would she frame you in the boyfriend-girlfriend frame in the first place?

What we can see here is that If you handle this the correct way (use traveling and any other subjects as a means to communicate same day lay frames (freedom, spontaneous, open minded, discreet) rather than use these subjects as a means of trying to create rapport which may lead to her framing you in a way not conductive to fast sex) you would not have to fight your way out of an unproductive frame in the first place

 

[BigPapa]

Why would she frame you in the boyfriend-girlfriend frame in the first place?

What we can see here is that If you handle this the correct way (use traveling and any other subjects as a means to communicate same day lay frames (freedom, spontaneous, open minded, discreet) rather than use these subjects as a means of trying to create rapport which may lead to her framing you in a way not conductive to fast sex) you would not have to fight your way out of an unproductive frame in the first place

I was doing this for a couple of years , and never really had a problem with this modus operandi .

I started facing this problem in the last 1 year let's say where for some reason , my boyfriend value is perceived as higher than that of a lover even though more or less I did not really change anything significant in the way I game .

So till recently I would talk about me and never really trigger any big boyfriend material flag , now if I talk openly about me & my lifestyle apparently I trigger a lot of boyfriend material flags. I guess that this has to do with the fact that my lifestyle improved significantly and women would rather push the boyfriend - girlfriend frame and loose me , rather than falling for my frame and blame herself for me not committing later on .

I am not saying that my game was perfect , but it was efficient (because the lover vibe was perceived as bigger than that of the boyfriend vibe ) and never really dealt with this kind of auto rejection ( her thinking that I do not take her seriously ) . The only auto rejection that I dealt this point was because I was being a dickhead .

 

[Tony D]

I've got an article here covering indirect daygame openers. Check it out.