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TLDR:
If I tagged you in this post it's because I think you have great value to add to the following questions that a lot of guys struggle with:
1. What time efficient techniques do you use to successfully juggle : working out, increasing your income, getting new girls and maintaining romantic/social relationships?
2. Is the above (nearly) impossible and men are better of focusing on 2 areas max for a year at a time?
Long Version:
Why am I weirdly asking this question on a seducer forum?
As we wrap up 2021 and plan for '22 a big question on my mind that's been shared with a lot of guys I speak to both on and off this forum is...
How the fuck do I do it all?
I love this site as it's a special side of the internet that focuses on real life results and not making excuses.
What I've not seen fully answered yet (and it seems to be the same for other intermediates I know) is how do I maintain my current success with girls while successfully improving on other goals?
Eventually once you get to a certain level with girls there's diminishing returns and your time is better placed mastering another skill. For many of us we dive into money as it has the biggest ROI in it's usefulness for improving all areas of your life in some shape or form.
Focusing on money instead of girls
I got my first real taste of online income last year during lockdown when I had more spare time. I also learnt about investments, macro-economics, crypto-currencies and I carried on with the momentum and made even more money this year but I'm performing way below my potential.
What I tried (1/3)- De-prioritizing seduction
Cut off my rotation of 3, kept one fb, then when she faded away my horniness took over and I found myself hunting for new girls. Like this online girl here, night game girl here and others I didn't write about.
What I tried (2/3) - being more efficient at getting girls
What I tried (3/3) - Only focusing on what actually matters
Things I need to improve
Potential Solutions (Mainstream advice)
General mainstream media advice is:
1. go completely single/cut girls off
2. get a reliable sweet girlfriend
I tried 1 and think I'd go crazy.
2 is an option I've considered but seems unfair on the girl as I'd get rid of her in a year or 2 once I've levelled up. She'd have to be younger say 20/21 so I don't get moving in/baby pressures which I'm starting to enter now I'm 25. My gf standards are also super high so getting a valid candidate would be a task within itself.
Another issue with option 2 is if I've been accustomed to so much sexual variety am I really going to be satisfied with 1 girl?
Red pill advice is:
1. Go no fap and "transmute" your energy. I quit porn like 3 years ago but last time I went nofap I started getting wet dreams and my ability to concentrate on anything other than sex lowkey deteriorated
Potential Solutions (this forum advice)
@YS. has this great thread on "How to do everything at once". To summarize you add areas in maintenance while focusing on 1 area for 3 months' at a time
@POB mentions all men should focus first on money, while bringing in a few women before fully focusing on women after finances are handled here. Any expansion of how to do that is very welcome! Think a lot of guys are struggling with it
Tagging people who I've seen contribute useful things to these topics
@DML & @Train - saw a post on both you sharing your ideas here
@Lofty is also going on a hiatus as mentioned in his journal to start an online biz. Think you're going for the GF route but again any expansion of your ideas would be great
@Warped Mindless have your own biz/ team of salesmen and mentioned in private your income doubled when you took a break from women. Would love to hear your thoughts on this... As well as your long awaited post on building a social circle v2
@Skills as reading between the lines you run your own biz and you give top tier advice
@Grand Pooba think you also have a good career/biz going based on your posts and also solely focus on daygame so be sweet to hear your perspective too
@Chase Trying my luck but would love an article on this (or will read one if something exists already!)
Thanks if you read it this far. Be as blunt and to the point as you must be. I'm hear to learn and improve.
If the answer is: "Grow up DWW and stop being unrealistic... Life comes with sacrifices" I'll accept that answer too.
All the best,
DWW
If I tagged you in this post it's because I think you have great value to add to the following questions that a lot of guys struggle with:
1. What time efficient techniques do you use to successfully juggle : working out, increasing your income, getting new girls and maintaining romantic/social relationships?
2. Is the above (nearly) impossible and men are better of focusing on 2 areas max for a year at a time?
Long Version:
Why am I weirdly asking this question on a seducer forum?
As we wrap up 2021 and plan for '22 a big question on my mind that's been shared with a lot of guys I speak to both on and off this forum is...
How the fuck do I do it all?
I love this site as it's a special side of the internet that focuses on real life results and not making excuses.
What I've not seen fully answered yet (and it seems to be the same for other intermediates I know) is how do I maintain my current success with girls while successfully improving on other goals?
Eventually once you get to a certain level with girls there's diminishing returns and your time is better placed mastering another skill. For many of us we dive into money as it has the biggest ROI in it's usefulness for improving all areas of your life in some shape or form.
Focusing on money instead of girls
I got my first real taste of online income last year during lockdown when I had more spare time. I also learnt about investments, macro-economics, crypto-currencies and I carried on with the momentum and made even more money this year but I'm performing way below my potential.
What I tried (1/3)- De-prioritizing seduction
Cut off my rotation of 3, kept one fb, then when she faded away my horniness took over and I found myself hunting for new girls. Like this online girl here, night game girl here and others I didn't write about.
What I tried (2/3) - being more efficient at getting girls
- Online game - I've got a process down and if I hit apps consistently can get 1-2 new girls a month. I hired a virtual assistant to reduce the time spent by me and got okay results. I'd have to spend a lot of time upskilling the person. I then got annoyed at myself and thought what absolute silliness to hire an assistant for a Tinder profile when adding similar systems to my existing business would give much better ROI
- Nightgame - Some of my easiest and efficient lays have been from nightgame but the late nights (even when I don't drink) are not sustainable for me. They make me a lot less productive the next day and as I'm working 6 days' a week right now I need to stay sharp and properly rest on my 1 day off.
- Daygame - I focused on just daygame for 3 months'. I got a good amount of dates but my lay % was terrible in comparison to online or nightgame. I could work on optimizing this but again this will take more time investment when I'm trying to reduce the time I spend in this area.
What I tried (3/3) - Only focusing on what actually matters
- The only social media account I have is LinkedIn. Probably use it for 1 hour every 2 weeks'
- Watch 15 hours worth of Netflix a year (usually when I'm with a girl) a lot of people hit those numbers in a week
- Watch 2 hours' a week worth of news and sport highlights so I'm not socially retarded when making conversations with people
- I map out my whole year in advance using Sam Ovens War calendar template and set checkpoints for what to achieve by when
- If a topic isn't related to: fitness, finance, business, seduction or very general pop culture chances are I know 0 about it.
Things I need to improve
- Daily to-do lists where I pick out 3 most important tasks- being honest I'm not as strict on this as I should be
- I'm guilty of "self improvement" porn where I'm listening to content not relevant to my current situation I.E some random Youtube video on re-programming your subconsciousness at 1am when I should be fucking sleeping lol
- Building 1 habit at a time with a tracker.
Potential Solutions (Mainstream advice)
General mainstream media advice is:
1. go completely single/cut girls off
2. get a reliable sweet girlfriend
I tried 1 and think I'd go crazy.
2 is an option I've considered but seems unfair on the girl as I'd get rid of her in a year or 2 once I've levelled up. She'd have to be younger say 20/21 so I don't get moving in/baby pressures which I'm starting to enter now I'm 25. My gf standards are also super high so getting a valid candidate would be a task within itself.
Another issue with option 2 is if I've been accustomed to so much sexual variety am I really going to be satisfied with 1 girl?
Red pill advice is:
1. Go no fap and "transmute" your energy. I quit porn like 3 years ago but last time I went nofap I started getting wet dreams and my ability to concentrate on anything other than sex lowkey deteriorated
Potential Solutions (this forum advice)
@YS. has this great thread on "How to do everything at once". To summarize you add areas in maintenance while focusing on 1 area for 3 months' at a time
@POB mentions all men should focus first on money, while bringing in a few women before fully focusing on women after finances are handled here. Any expansion of how to do that is very welcome! Think a lot of guys are struggling with it
Tagging people who I've seen contribute useful things to these topics
@DML & @Train - saw a post on both you sharing your ideas here
@Lofty is also going on a hiatus as mentioned in his journal to start an online biz. Think you're going for the GF route but again any expansion of your ideas would be great
@Warped Mindless have your own biz/ team of salesmen and mentioned in private your income doubled when you took a break from women. Would love to hear your thoughts on this... As well as your long awaited post on building a social circle v2
@Skills as reading between the lines you run your own biz and you give top tier advice
@Grand Pooba think you also have a good career/biz going based on your posts and also solely focus on daygame so be sweet to hear your perspective too
@Chase Trying my luck but would love an article on this (or will read one if something exists already!)
Thanks if you read it this far. Be as blunt and to the point as you must be. I'm hear to learn and improve.
If the answer is: "Grow up DWW and stop being unrealistic... Life comes with sacrifices" I'll accept that answer too.
All the best,
DWW
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