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A while back, maybe a year ago, Franco and others on this forum talked about how older guys (30+) can get hot girls in their early 20s, all I could was scratch my head. Where I was growing up, such a thing was very taboo and borderline unheard of, never even saw it happen that much in college. Most of the times younger attractive women went for higher value guys their own age (usually athletes or frat bros). As soon as I started living in bigger cities, it all started to come together for me and I saw it. I found that the older successful guys (even older than 35+) getting hot girls as young as their early 20s was to an extent something that just happened.
It impacted the minds of the girls too as I could see, they were not as embarrassed to get with an older guy while back in my home town, it would have definitely been kept under the carpet. I am sure the same thing can apply to minorities, at least here in Chicago I notice that attractive women aren't that strongly against dating men of a darker skin tone but I won't focus on race here.
Now that same dynamic would not have been nearly as common in my eyes back in college or back in the small midwestern city I grew up in for high school, in big cities it was borderline normal. As you can see based on my experience, location carries a lot of weight. I say this as a white guy that recently moved to Chicago and has been loving life.
The dynamics of the game change based on location.
Ever notice how so many PUAs tend to shoot their daygame and nightgame videos in big cities? Why are so many of their coaching programs in big cities? The reason is, because cold approaching a hot girl in a big city is somewhat normal and not that out of the ordinary. Now try doing the same thing in a small city or college town, you will find that it gets somewhat awkward in most of these places. Do it enough and if she isn't feeling it, you will get a bad reputation as word spreads fast.
The reason is that social circle game tends to predominate in a lot of college towns and smaller cities, especially if you want hotter girls. So when a user on here made a claim that one of his friends visited a southern college town I was in during the summer and hooked up with a good looking sorority girl, I had my doubts because it doesn't matter what his race because that sort of stuff usually doesn't happen in my long stay there. Usually frat bros and other guys take girls out to bar, get them drunk, have some fun with them, and take them back with them.
How does it affect inexperienced guys and guys that aren't naturals?
I would argue location affects inexperienced guys the most, unless they're the kinds of inexperienced guys with hardcore aspergers, I've found even on this forum and even in real life that it is inexperienced guys who see the most dramatic results changes based on location. A part of me used to wonder why but then I realized it, it is because the advice given about approaching women, night game, and daygame tends to naturally work in big cities as opposed to small cities and more cliquish areas where it is just comes off as weird. If you already have a reputation in these areas, it can become even more difficult! I've seen PUA newbies run aggressive day game in small towns or places outside of big cities and get into some serious shit over it.
I've also found that rookie mistakes (which new guys will undoubtedly make) can be easily forgiven in a big city like Chicago or New York where a bad approach might not be remembered by that many people as opposed to a smaller city where KINOing to aggressively or approaching more than you should leads to getting a reputation fast. To summarize it all, it is just so easy to run numbers game in a place like NYC or Chicago. Don't believe me? Try online dating in NYC and then try it in a small place like Topeka, KS; then come talk to me about the results.
Easier to run numbers game means easier to have an abundance mentality because who cares if you fuck up, everyone is minding their own business in big cities. Not only that, I found that girls in big cities tend to have a lower inhibition which means they are more open to just hooking up as opposed to girls in small towns were word spreads fast, everything has to be kept under the table.
Based on what I've seen and somewhat experienced myself, if a newer guy is determined and mostly normal, a change of location can actually do wonders for him.
And it isn't even about women!
There is more shit to do in bigger cities.
People in bigger cities are generally more laid back with all the hedonism.
Bigger cities generally provide more options socially and in terms of women, making it easy to build an abundance mentality.
Bigger cities provide more opportunities for jobs and careers.
Unless you're looking to settle down with a family or find a place to pass the last of your days, small towns and smaller cities are usually not great places to be in. Even college towns are a bad place to be if you aren't going to school there.
I can vouch for Chicago in my experience and other good cities I've seen thrown in are Austin, NYC, Seattle, and Miami.
It impacted the minds of the girls too as I could see, they were not as embarrassed to get with an older guy while back in my home town, it would have definitely been kept under the carpet. I am sure the same thing can apply to minorities, at least here in Chicago I notice that attractive women aren't that strongly against dating men of a darker skin tone but I won't focus on race here.
Now that same dynamic would not have been nearly as common in my eyes back in college or back in the small midwestern city I grew up in for high school, in big cities it was borderline normal. As you can see based on my experience, location carries a lot of weight. I say this as a white guy that recently moved to Chicago and has been loving life.
The dynamics of the game change based on location.
Ever notice how so many PUAs tend to shoot their daygame and nightgame videos in big cities? Why are so many of their coaching programs in big cities? The reason is, because cold approaching a hot girl in a big city is somewhat normal and not that out of the ordinary. Now try doing the same thing in a small city or college town, you will find that it gets somewhat awkward in most of these places. Do it enough and if she isn't feeling it, you will get a bad reputation as word spreads fast.
The reason is that social circle game tends to predominate in a lot of college towns and smaller cities, especially if you want hotter girls. So when a user on here made a claim that one of his friends visited a southern college town I was in during the summer and hooked up with a good looking sorority girl, I had my doubts because it doesn't matter what his race because that sort of stuff usually doesn't happen in my long stay there. Usually frat bros and other guys take girls out to bar, get them drunk, have some fun with them, and take them back with them.
How does it affect inexperienced guys and guys that aren't naturals?
I would argue location affects inexperienced guys the most, unless they're the kinds of inexperienced guys with hardcore aspergers, I've found even on this forum and even in real life that it is inexperienced guys who see the most dramatic results changes based on location. A part of me used to wonder why but then I realized it, it is because the advice given about approaching women, night game, and daygame tends to naturally work in big cities as opposed to small cities and more cliquish areas where it is just comes off as weird. If you already have a reputation in these areas, it can become even more difficult! I've seen PUA newbies run aggressive day game in small towns or places outside of big cities and get into some serious shit over it.
I've also found that rookie mistakes (which new guys will undoubtedly make) can be easily forgiven in a big city like Chicago or New York where a bad approach might not be remembered by that many people as opposed to a smaller city where KINOing to aggressively or approaching more than you should leads to getting a reputation fast. To summarize it all, it is just so easy to run numbers game in a place like NYC or Chicago. Don't believe me? Try online dating in NYC and then try it in a small place like Topeka, KS; then come talk to me about the results.
Easier to run numbers game means easier to have an abundance mentality because who cares if you fuck up, everyone is minding their own business in big cities. Not only that, I found that girls in big cities tend to have a lower inhibition which means they are more open to just hooking up as opposed to girls in small towns were word spreads fast, everything has to be kept under the table.
Based on what I've seen and somewhat experienced myself, if a newer guy is determined and mostly normal, a change of location can actually do wonders for him.
And it isn't even about women!
There is more shit to do in bigger cities.
People in bigger cities are generally more laid back with all the hedonism.
Bigger cities generally provide more options socially and in terms of women, making it easy to build an abundance mentality.
Bigger cities provide more opportunities for jobs and careers.
Unless you're looking to settle down with a family or find a place to pass the last of your days, small towns and smaller cities are usually not great places to be in. Even college towns are a bad place to be if you aren't going to school there.
I can vouch for Chicago in my experience and other good cities I've seen thrown in are Austin, NYC, Seattle, and Miami.
