Inspired by older guys doing cold-approach pickup

[bkw]

Being 39 years old myself, I am extremely motivated and inspired by older guys doing cold-approach pickup, and even more so when they are successful at it (think 50+ years old and more). There aren't many older guys publically talking about their experiences or success with cold-approach and whom are also active, as far as I know. Yes, there are the OGs like Mystery, or even guys from RSD (although their business model has shifted away from dating), etc., but they aren't publically talking about their active pickup lifestyle much. I'm also fairly new to these forums, but I do notice older guys on here, some seemingly quite skilled in pickup based on their reputation and/or experiences, which is really cool.

Not really sure the reason for this post. I just wanted to say I think it's awesome older guys doing pickup. I guess when I was younger I didn't think much of it, but now that I'm almost 40 and find myself still doing it from time to time, it's super inspiring and I just think it's cool to know at an older age what is possible and perhaps the reasons/motivations guys do it. It's also pretty interesting to see how women of all ages respond to older men.

I'm also one of those guys who doesn't really follow the typical "social norm", never have, so I'm not stuck on romanticized ways men "should be" when they are older. Obviously, having more money is optimal; having a preferable lifestyle, being healthy, emotional maturity, etc.

Yeah, I guess that's it. Just wanted to share. Keep it up!

 

[Aussiedude]

Check out Days of Game, he's an older guy who made it work after a lot of hard work. https://daysofgame.com/

 

[isildur1]

Tom torero interviewed numerous old people on his podcasts that had started in their 50s-60s and got results

I say at 39 you have a distinct advantage for having more life experience and a greater ability to hook people in conversations

Started pickup at aged 20 I really struggled to keep sets hooked because I was too inexperienced at life - that became a lot easier in my late 20s . A lot of people say age Is a disadvantage but I think women are attracted a lot to maturity and life experience - whenever I saw a 18-20 year old start pickup they’d often flop due to their lack of experience and maturity , definitely life lessons make hooking and maintaining conversations and date a lot easier at least it did for me

 

[isildur1]

Didn’t Nick Krausser start in his mid 30s too? After a divorce ?

I think most mainstream pickup artists hit their peak in their mid 30s I rarely met wingmen that were crushing it in their early 20s at least

also most of Tom torero’s wingmen were 30+ , James Marshall’s tnl crew were predominantly 30+ too - I could go on with examples

 

[RisingCane]

I am in my early 30s and started consuming pickup content in my late teens. One thing I think that changes once you hit 30 is that you realize you do not have forever. You realize that despite what some say, your age is, in some cases, a disadvantage. It is probably less socially acceptable for a guy who is older to be a f*ckboy compared to some 21-year old kid. People commonly gaslight saying "Oh he is old what is he doing at a club?".

This perception of time and the clock ticking makes you actually do rather than waste time which I think a lot of younger guys are prone to doing, I know I was in my mid-20s and it fills me with regret right now. It gets me that so much of the Black Pill and Incel community is commonly full of guys in their late teens and early 20s. When you are that young, that energy needs to go somewhere. A lot of guys have it but it goes in the wrong places.

I think around your late 20s is when you have two categories of guys. One are the ones who are not serious enough about game and getting good at it. These guys commonly revert to the Red Pill, Black Pill, and just waste time on pickup forums and chats. You will commonly see them whining about women in their city and never really putting in much work in the game.

Then you have guys who have hit 30 and started to see their hair thin a bit, energy levels slightly decrease, and realize that they do not have forever. Their parents are getting old and in some cases sick. Their friends are getting married and wondering what the single guy over 30 is doing. They hear the noise from society gaslighting them, telling them they are immature for wanting to be a f*ckboy, and subtly pressuring them into a marriage.

It is that fear of time and that fear that one day, they might get too old to do game at a high level that scares them and so they either quit and live with regret or they go all out.

No more victim mentality.

No more mental masturbation.

No more pointless arguing and bickering online.

No more need for motivation.

You just quiet the noise, go out there, and do.

You are society's pariah but you do not care.

You may hear from some girls you are too old.

Their fat friends and jealous guy friends will shame her for being with you and you for being with her.

Even other guys will pressure you into a marriage or LTR. Look at how the Red Pill suddenly became Good Christians overnight.

But you do not care. You want to learn this Game stuff, you want to get good, and you have no time to waste. It is ironically that urgency that makes you just get out there and become almost sharp to the point where there are no excuses to make. You just do and you don't waste time.

 

[isildur1]

I am in my early 30s and started consuming pickup content in my late teens. One thing I think that changes once you hit 30 is that you realize you do not have forever. You realize that despite what some say, your age is, in some cases, a disadvantage. It is probably less socially acceptable for a guy who is older to be a f*ckboy compared to some 21-year old kid. People commonly gaslight saying "Oh he is old what is he doing at a club?".

This perception of time and the clock ticking makes you actually do rather than waste time which I think a lot of younger guys are prone to doing, I know I was in my mid-20s and it fills me with regret right now. It gets me that so much of the Black Pill and Incel community is commonly full of guys in their late teens and early 20s. When you are that young, that energy needs to go somewhere. A lot of guys have it but it goes in the wrong places.

I think around your late 20s is when you have two categories of guys. One are the ones who are not serious enough about game and getting good at it. These guys commonly revert to the Red Pill, Black Pill, and just waste time on pickup forums and chats. You will commonly see them whining about women in their city and never really putting in much work in the game.

Then you have guys who have hit 30 and started to see their hair thin a bit, energy levels slightly decrease, and realize that they do not have forever. Their parents are getting old and in some cases sick. Their friends are getting married and wondering what the single guy over 30 is doing. They hear the noise from society gaslighting them, telling them they are immature for wanting to be a f*ckboy, and subtly pressuring them into a marriage.

It is that fear of time and that fear that one day, they might get too old to do game at a high level that scares them and so they either quit and live with regret or they go all out.

No more victim mentality.

No more mental masturbation.

No more pointless arguing and bickering online.

No more need for motivation.

You just quiet the noise, go out there, and do.

You are society's pariah but you do not care.

You may hear from some girls you are too old.

Their fat friends and jealous guy friends will shame her for being with you and you for being with her.

Even other guys will pressure you into a marriage or LTR. Look at how the Red Pill suddenly became Good Christians overnight.

But you do not care. You want to learn this Game stuff, you want to get good, and you have no time to waste. It is ironically that urgency that makes you just get out there and become almost sharp to the point where there are no excuses to make. You just do and you don't waste time.

Interesting perspective -

I started daygame in my mid 20s and I wish I started earlier - it was a hard transition from nightgame/online game

But I’m great-full for it as speaking to strangers is a necessary life skill

but even doing it in my mid 20s I lacked a real work ethic and pro activity yet the majority of my friends did even less - and the vast majority of wingmen I met were very lazy and egoistical and wouldn’t do the sets

I guess as you say in your 20s you think you have forever but you really don’t - and time is limited , that being said it was a lot easier for me to hook in my 30s than in my 20s maybe because I traveled more and can speak more languages- I speak fluent Chinese , Korean and Japanese now which certainly helps bonding connections faster with people I’ve also done more shit with my life

I just regret being too constrained by my social circle in my early 20s and lacking the will to think independently of my friends and family at a young age in general I believe men mature a lot slower than women do and that lack of maturity really causes them to miss out on big opportunities

 

[KnownUniverse]

gaming girls in their 20s was way easier for me 10-15 years ago. I didnt even need game back then i just opened, joked around, got their number and we'd start dating. Now im in my late 30s gaming women over 35+ (milfs) is way easier but young women keep slipping through my fingers.

Could by psychological though as i dont feel as confident as i did in my 20s. I'm also more anxious and less care free about where my life is heading. And It doesnt help that whenever the age gap topic comes up on social media it's full of people shaming us. Makes me feel like im being constantly judged for talking to younger women in public.

That said i've had some brief luck with women as young as 18 over the last year or so but i had to try extra hard.

 

[KnownUniverse]

I am in my early 30s and started consuming pickup content in my late teens. One thing I think that changes once you hit 30 is that you realize you do not have forever. You realize that despite what some say, your age is, in some cases, a disadvantage. It is probably less socially acceptable for a guy who is older to be a f*ckboy compared to some 21-year old kid. People commonly gaslight saying "Oh he is old what is he doing at a club?".

I think this is only true if you are in a club filled with people half your age. I dont think there's any stigma in being the mature guy that bangs all the milfs.

 

[Will_V]

As an older guy you can be the lover, but you need to do things with style, this is your strong suit. It is expected that your life experience will give you a perspective, an identity, a story. I doubt you can just be the 'attractive loser' past a certain point.

Having a style does not mean you now have to be looking for marriage, it just means you need to anchor yourself a little more and provide an attractive experience for her through your leadership and frame. She expects that you know who you are by now, and so she can rely on a certain experience while being with you.

 

[isildur1]

I am in my early 30s and started consuming pickup content in my late teens. One thing I think that changes once you hit 30 is that you realize you do not have forever. You realize that despite what some say, your age is, in some cases, a disadvantage. It is probably less socially acceptable for a guy who is older to be a f*ckboy compared to some 21-year old kid. People commonly gaslight saying "Oh he is old what is he doing at a club?".

This perception of time and the clock ticking makes you actually do rather than waste time which I think a lot of younger guys are prone to doing, I know I was in my mid-20s and it fills me with regret right now. It gets me that so much of the Black Pill and Incel community is commonly full of guys in their late teens and early 20s. When you are that young, that energy needs to go somewhere. A lot of guys have it but it goes in the wrong places.

I think around your late 20s is when you have two categories of guys. One are the ones who are not serious enough about game and getting good at it. These guys commonly revert to the Red Pill, Black Pill, and just waste time on pickup forums and chats. You will commonly see them whining about women in their city and never really putting in much work in the game.

Then you have guys who have hit 30 and started to see their hair thin a bit, energy levels slightly decrease, and realize that they do not have forever. Their parents are getting old and in some cases sick. Their friends are getting married and wondering what the single guy over 30 is doing. They hear the noise from society gaslighting them, telling them they are immature for wanting to be a f*ckboy, and subtly pressuring them into a marriage.

It is that fear of time and that fear that one day, they might get too old to do game at a high level that scares them and so they either quit and live with regret or they go all out.

No more victim mentality.

No more mental masturbation.

No more pointless arguing and bickering online.

No more need for motivation.

You just quiet the noise, go out there, and do.

You are society's pariah but you do not care.

You may hear from some girls you are too old.

Their fat friends and jealous guy friends will shame her for being with you and you for being with her.

Even other guys will pressure you into a marriage or LTR. Look at how the Red Pill suddenly became Good Christians overnight.

But you do not care. You want to learn this Game stuff, you want to get good, and you have no time to waste. It is ironically that urgency that makes you just get out there and become almost sharp to the point where there are no excuses to make. You just do and you don't waste time.

That being said the younger you are starting out usually the less serious women took me - I even got dumped several times for being “too young” even at 27

When I started daygame I was pretty lazy and arrogant too I worked ok but not really hard enough and the wingmen I was with most of them were even worse they’d give up after doing 0 approaches

and sub 20 year olds would again be really lazy when doing it.

commitments to any change in life require serious dedication and I guess this generation of men would rather hide behind dating apps then put their balls behind the line and do anything meaningful. I mean even on “game “ telegram groups most men were too egotistical to even go out to do approaches caught behind the screen and trying too hard to look “cool” behind Instagram or dating apps.

 

[average_daygamer]

I think this is only true if you are in a club filled with people half your age. I dont think there's any stigma in being the mature guy that bangs all the milfs.

Let's be honest, as older guys, we are trying to make up for not getting any action when we were young.

We ain't chasing no milfs up in the club...