Is there any disadvantage to sticking to only dating through dating apps? Also, which social activities give you the best bang for the buck?

[sinksink]

Although I did meet a very small number of people through dance classes and a valentine's day dance, the amount of time I spent socializing didn't seem worth the meager results I got compared to online dating. HOWEVER, the experience of signing up for a dance class at a college was nice b/c young college girls are prettier, thinner, nice to be around and it seems tempting to become a part time student in some extremely limited capacity just to be around college girls more?

I don't really like social activities much and am trying to figure out how to minimize them and do just enough social activities to have friends and seem normal/seem like I have acceptable hobbies that are better than porn/lying around listening to podcasts or youtube vids. Which social activities do you think give you the most bang for your buck if you dislike social activities/find them draining?

 

[ulrich]

If you stick to dating apps you will be locked with a subset of mediocre to low attractive and crazy girls.
The best girls don’t hang online.

I wouldn’t say you have to rule online out, especially if you’re lacking experience but depending where you live you might end up frustrated/unsatisfied of the girls you get.

As for social activities, I’m going to say something counterintuitive and suggest you try acting.
It’s possibly the hardest and most uncomfortable skill to learn but the calibration benefits you get from learning to identify and express emotions are superb.
Second best would be public speaking.

 

[Glow]

Social activities is a seduction trap.

Dont do social activities for seduction. do it for the thing it focus on. If it has a stream of cuties passing through it it can support both. Ive had one super example of that where i could easily daygame a chick a week along a cool activity i did. Was perfect. But the limits to the number of chicks you access is the huge prob. and guys go semi-dosile in them too.

But instead, do social circle game. Its like stringing high quality girls on a line when you get good at it

means you grow social circles and access to these to pipeline you with hot warm leads.

But like with other things u have to do the work and not just show up somewhere.

think ecosystem. not social activities.

once you get it and have it in place its a more laid back - high qual thing to manage

 

[West_Indian_Archie]

I don't really like social activities much and am trying to figure out how to minimize them and do just enough social activities to have friends and seem normal/seem like I have acceptable hobbies that are better than porn/lying around listening to podcasts or youtube vids. Which social activities do you think give you the most bang for your buck if you dislike social activities/find them draining?

Most bang for the buck - bars and clubs. Most density, Most likely to find upper echelon girls. More open to socialization. Alcohol, Music, and Night create a very good atmosphere. The only thing better than a public party, is a private party.

If you want to have girls in your life, it will be very hard to meet girls that don't like social activities, BECAUSE THEY DON'T ENGAGE IN SOCIAL ACTIVITIES.

 

[Yaxir]

Most bang for the buck - bars and clubs. Most density, Most likely to find upper echelon girls. More open to socialization. Alcohol, Music, and Night create a very good atmosphere. The only thing better than a public party, is a private party.

If you want to have girls in your life, it will be very hard to meet girls that don't like social activities, BECAUSE THEY DON'T ENGAGE IN SOCIAL ACTIVITIES.

this sounds like really good advice

i am a beginner, can i ask you some questions ?

 

[West_Indian_Archie]

this sounds like really good advice

i am a beginner, can i ask you some questions ?

That's what the forum is for. Pretty much everyone here an answer beginner questions.

 

[Yaxir]

That's what the forum is for. Pretty much everyone here an answer beginner questions.

i see, that's great ! i am happy to be in a place where i can ask questions without being judged

i will soon be making a post, if you don't mind can i ask you to take a look at it when i have posted ?

i am very new to the whole game thing and would appreciate if i can get help from experienced members

i don't promise anything, but my case MIGHT be somewhat unique and/or interesting

i would be thankful if you can help me out in any way possible

 

[Rain]

find upper echelon girls

Doesn't daygame have more beautiful less makeup women, who are more likely to be suited to a LTR as well as opposed to bars and clubs? The OP didn't specifically state LTR, but "upper echelon" I would have thought day game beats that greatly in terms of probability?

 

[West_Indian_Archie]

Doesn't daygame have more beautiful less makeup women, who are more likely to be suited to a LTR as well as opposed to bars and clubs? The OP didn't specifically state LTR, but "upper echelon" I would have thought day game beats that greatly in terms of probability?

We'd have to define "upper echelon", but the short answer to this question, as far as I'm concerned is NO. I honestly don't consider girls in college to be upper echelon, though I think a lot of guys would give their left arm for some blond sorority sophomore. That only makes sense for college guys, imo. And if you're 25+ trawling a college campus for impressionable poon....we're just not on the same wave length.

If your goal is to find the flawless face and body, then finding a legit 9 is already looking for a needle in a haystack.
Trying to find her doing day game? That's once in a few months type situation, provided you live in a upper tier city like LA, NY, etc.

But if you want to find a bunch of models, actresses, video vixens, etc in one place - you're gonna find them in the night life.
Every club? No.
Every night? No.

But if you night club on a regular basis, yes. And you'll really gain access to those type of girls in the after party scene.

You can plan for night game. You can engineer those situations with night game.

In terms of concentration, the only thing that beats night game is cold dm'ing chicks on social media. And those approaches are lottery tickets.

As for "suited to an LTR" - that's a different discussion. In my view, not even a church girl is actually suited to an LTR. LTRs are not uncovered, they're made.

WIA

 

[Yaxir]

@West_Indian_Archie i made my first post (technically second post), i hope you will take a look

 

[hater58]

There are for sure tons of girls in the various apps that are quality. However most average or better girls are only going to go for the 10% to 20% at the most of guys. If you are doing well online then 100% you should be using that resource.

Most men wont have almost any success with it though IMO. It shouldn't be dismissed as an option though and is generally viewed as more practical in todays world than joining clubs, at least in my opinion.

 

[ulrich]

There are for sure tons of girls in the various apps that are quality.

It may be different depending on your region but where I live there are practically no quality girls online anymore.

You can get some fuck-buddies and the ocasional non-ugly girl.
But if you go for hot, educated or really attractive... online isn’t the place.

 

[Zanardi]

Depending on the city, try daygame. It is not mandatory for girls to engage in social activities, but it is mandatory for them to go on the streets to do their chores.

 

[Yaxir]

Depending on the city, try daygame. It is not mandatory for girls to engage in social activities, but it is mandatory for them to go on the streets to do their chores.

would a girl doing her chores actually like being cold approached by a random guy ?

wouldn't she be annoyed by that ?

from what i have read so far, day game is good if the girl is usually not doing anything that keeps her busy or engaged ( like sitting in a park etc )

 

[Zanardi]

would a girl doing her chores actually like being cold approached by a random guy ?

wouldn't she be annoyed by that ?

from what i have read so far, day game is good if the girl is usually not doing anything that keeps her busy or engaged ( like sitting in a park etc )

If she likes you, she'll talk to you. And you don't have to get her to an instadate. Talk to her for a few minutes, get her phone number and part ways. Or try to set up a situation in which you "naturally" have common path for a while. If she likes you, she'll go with you, not speed ahead or slow down behind you.

Just try it and see what happens. The worse reaction I got was to get ignored. This happened 2 or 3 times in about 300 daygame approaches.

 

[Yaxir]

If she likes you, she'll talk to you. And you don't have to get her to an instadate. Talk to her for a few minutes, get her phone number and part ways. Or try to set up a situation in which you "naturally" have common path for a while. If she likes you, she'll go with you, not speed ahead or slow down behind you.

Just try it and see what happens. The worse reaction I got was to get ignored. This happened 2 or 3 times in about 300 daygame approaches.

i see

haha i can see how setting up a common path can be somewhat tricky

wow , 2/300 is an insanely low rate for getting ignored by girls. If you don't mind, can i ask you a bit about yourself ? like are you attractive by physique (or looks ) and what do you think makes you a comfortable option for the girls to at least talk to and give numbers, apart from game it self ?

due to my experience with the society in Pakistan, i just worry about being seen as a creep and getting reported for harassment / for being a pervert . I know this is what is causing all the Approach Anxiety but i am not going to practice any game in Pakistan. I will do so in some other, more open minded country


P.S : ah, where are my manners ! Hello, I'm Yaxir, currently located in Pakistan. I am new here and a total beginner to game. Learning game is going to be not just a psychological but also a big cultural shift for me. Hopefully i can embrace it in graceful fashion. I am happy to have come across this cool community ! Nice to meet you @Zanardi , hope to learn a lot of stuff about seduction and about developing game from you guys !

 

[Zanardi]

A place to begin with: ask her where a pet shop is. Most likely she won't know so you can take it from there, saying that you had searched high and low for one and can't seem to find one. If she asks you why you want a pet shop, tell her your friend's birthday will arrive soon and you want to get him a puppy dog or, if all fails, you can always stick to beer. Try to keep this line of story for a couple of minutes. At one point ask her if there is any chance to find a pet shop in the direction she's heading.

If you get this far, there is a nice chance she'll like you and you can change topics. If all you get is an answer and she gets ready to leave within a minute, you're dead in the water and you should move to the next one.

Nope, I am not good looking, just confident and with some approaches under my belt to have an idea of what I am doing. And nobody will peg you as a creep if you ask for a pet shop. In her (and everybody's eyes), you were looking for the pet shop and happened to be in a chatting mood.

Nice to meet you. Bogdan from Romania.