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TLDR:
New one from nightgame this weekend just gone. Writing it as reference for myself and others.
Feels good as I've been been in drought (fully caused by me) so this may become a useful series on how I rebuild from near 0.
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Long Version:
Venue & No Response to Pings
I order 2 tonic water and limes for me and my friend. Catch up, vibe to the music and give casual intros to girls but get no bites. Friendly replies but no hooks or continuing conversations E.g.
2nd Venue
More of the same but now I'm fully warm. My friend's taken the girl I wanted home and I've got a chip on my shoulder and a little pissed tbh. Usually I'd go home at midnight but think F it. My other friend wants to keep going out and his friend is visiting from France so we go to a 2nd venue that my boy told me about. It's got a ground and first floor. Stage at the front, big and annoymous and plays girl "basic white girl feel goods" think Abba, Shakira, band music.
The Pull
Conclusion
Fun experience, she stays over & ends up being late to her friend's birthday party the next day which shows the power of creating a bubble.
Unfortunately they live 1-2 hours away so unlikely anything will come from it.
Sent an imessage & got no response. Going to get more experiences/ data before seeing if I have a retention challenge or not. Wouldn't be the first time I've had to fix this.
Also bitter sweet as although this is a win it's not the way I want to win. Want to be like my wings who're currently pulling by midnight. I ended up getting this girl home at 4am which is not sustainable for me. Typing that up though I realize I'm in a bubble & should probably be more grateful but alas, the better you get the more you expect.
Lastly want to transition to where DG is like 75% of my lays as I think that's what will get me to absolute abundance quicker and I have a plan I've been working on behind the scenes to get there.
Will share the journey as I figure all of this out.
New one from nightgame this weekend just gone. Writing it as reference for myself and others.
Feels good as I've been been in drought (fully caused by me) so this may become a useful series on how I rebuild from near 0.
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Not that anyone cares lol but trying to maintain my biz now I've gone full time. Revenue is doing well (10K+ a month but learning the devil's in the details and improving net profit margins for it to sustain me comfortably is a rollercoaster
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trying to re-incorporate girls/social life in a sustainable way & go from abundance --> absolute abundance. I've quit apps (last used summer '24) and focused on offline daygame and nightgame. Going through an adjustment period as apps gave me a lot of volume and I'm being pickier after truly honing in on what I want from girls moving forward. I'm finding events that end at midnight but are still good AND finding cafe's which are suitable for work and have good volume during the day
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1. Discover events and DJ's on TikTok, 2. Follow their profiles on Instagram, 3. Get yourself on mailing lists if possible, 4. Move quickly if it's ticketed. In London the best events sell out fast. 5. Physically explore your city. The best bar for lays for me and my wing rn has a terrible marketing presence, 6. If you're struggling to find venues focus on live/band music venues preferably with drag queens (not joking) have great ratios and have taken over the girly cocktail bars that used to reign supreme
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Hasn't changed, basically a copy and paste of this guide but fashion has changed and how you find good venues is per the above
Long Version:
My wing calls me up in the afternoon and we end up agreeing to go to a cool afro-house event I discovered through TikTok. It's literally my perfect version of nightlife. Central London so easy to get to. In a high-end restaurant and rooftop bar but attracts a young stylish crowd. Starts at 8 but ends at midnight so you can be with a girl at your place by 00:30 (which is what my wing did but more on that later).
This event used to be free but now they charge £20 on the door after 8pm. A 3rd friend suggests a workaround where we book a table at the restaurant for free then jump over to the event. Works perfectly and we get to skip the queue that way too.
This event used to be free but now they charge £20 on the door after 8pm. A 3rd friend suggests a workaround where we book a table at the restaurant for free then jump over to the event. Works perfectly and we get to skip the queue that way too.
Venue & No Response to Pings
I order 2 tonic water and limes for me and my friend. Catch up, vibe to the music and give casual intros to girls but get no bites. Friendly replies but no hooks or continuing conversations E.g.
- Your drink is hanging on for dear life - as she goes through the crowd trying not to spill it
- You guys are the cutest and having so much fun
- Saying hello to guys and asking for their name to keep my social momentum up
This is the blessing and curse of having certified and competent wings. You hesitate and they'll get girls before you lol. I spot this Latina looking girl, I'm a pussy and I don't approach. I hestitate, my friend goes for it, runs very basic nice guy game, "hey my name is X, what's your name?" extends hand. Where you from, are you a party girl, been to this event before? I'm hearing it and can't believe it next thing I know she's got her back to him grinding up, her 2 friends leave her alone and it's basically a don't fuck up deal at that point. I'm pissed because my boy's similar to me so if she liked him, good chance she'd like me too
I drift around the venue, start talking to 2 friends and my first bite, is a girl who ironically pings me. Can't remember what she said but she's pretending to be French, but turns out she's from Norway lol. She's got big energy, pale but clear skin, dressed in all black, long brunette hair and big brunette eyes. She's a lot of fun and touchy feely. I plant the seed of after party, she seems receptive but 30 minutes later, her friends come back. While vibing she said "I get best friend energy" then later "you just want to kiss me" to which I reply with a shrug, smirk and "I'm not easy lol". We exchange numbers but I realise she's a time waster for that night
2nd Venue
More of the same but now I'm fully warm. My friend's taken the girl I wanted home and I've got a chip on my shoulder and a little pissed tbh. Usually I'd go home at midnight but think F it. My other friend wants to keep going out and his friend is visiting from France so we go to a 2nd venue that my boy told me about. It's got a ground and first floor. Stage at the front, big and annoymous and plays girl "basic white girl feel goods" think Abba, Shakira, band music.
Girl visiting from Spain with her friends. I open her saying she took off her jacket in such a dramatic way. She laughs, we talk, I share what I know about Spain, she says you clearly have a thing for spanish girls, I laugh, we vibe, gives me a cool holiday destinatino "Caldiz" she goes back to her friends and says see you later 
My second approach in the 2nd venue was the girl I end up sleeping with, brunette, very dark blue one-piece dress, white adidas sambas, leopard print socks, brunette hair, brunette eyes and 26 year old teacher. You'll understand her nickname in just a moment. She's with her friend, I open with why they look pissed off and that they're one of those people who speaks with their face. She's very talkative and so is her friend, I entertain both of them, then start to isolate a little on her, her friend gets bored and deny's my friend's top wing man attempts to occupy her and she goes off. I give her a warm smile and say bye
from there it's just pings and conversations that go nowhere. Tease a girl for trying to push in front of me in the bar, then talk star signs and tarrots, make a comment on 2 girls being in sync with bodylanguage but I think me autistically approaching from behind startles them and ruins it, girls too on drugs to even respond to my ping lol, dancing/vibing with friends to keep energy up
Trauma teacher comes back and this is when the game really starts.
Social vibe: She comes back and she's warm. I'm teasing her about being a "classic teacher" with her fun facts, she opens up about her job, her trip to Berlin, fills me in on inside jokes but this time there's a random guy talking to her friend... PERFECT.
Qualifying vibe: I ask her what her type is personlity wise & she says she likes ambitious guys and I say most girls think they do but they can't handle them. I give an example of having to cancel last minute and she responds, if a guy has to respond for good reason that's cool and qualifies more by saying she's been in long distance relationships so if she can't see a guy one weekend, it's not that deep. I give a light nod of lightly impressed. QUALIFYING is such a big part of my game these days and I think it makes such a difference in my humble opinion.
Sexual vibe: Learning from my mistake of the last girl that hooked, I realize there's a risk of this being fuzzy, warm but platonic and I can't think of a smooth way of escalating so I ask her about dating experiences, personality of guys she likes and sloppily escalate by asking her what she's like in the bedroom and what i'm like. I cold read her accurately and impressively she cold reads me. I also asked her what she thinks of me and she explicitly says attractive and while taking about cold reads and sex I agree with her cold read that I'm a giver and explain in detail how girls respond when they orgasm and how I like it. Her eyes light up and it's game onnnnnnn.
Comfort vibe: At this point gears rapidly switch and she says "let's talk about trauma" Loool, girls can be autistic but in fairness I started by jumping to sex. I say I'm fortunate to not have much trauma and she says where do I start... I use this as an escalation window to isolate her from the bar to sofas. She tells me about how her dad dies when she was young, I reply with "fuckk" a sad face and show empathy. I just let her express herself, bond over family and she starts to get even more touchy/cuddly with me.
Friend finds us: Her friend comes back with the guy, at first I thought he's charming but then realize he's sloppy and uncoordinated and can't tell his girl's not feeling it. My girl and her friend give each other a look and I can tell I get the greenlight to pull her home.
Playing savior: I "be-friend" the guy who thinks it's a 2-man step and as we walk out tell him "bro, I'm telling you this because I'd want to know if I were you, not going to lie her friend's not seeing you in that way" he to my genuine surprise says I'm wrong and that he thinks it's on. I cool him off to where we agree he'll say bye to the friend and see if she bites to join him home. Shock horror she doesn't and he goes. The girls then love me even more as someone who's got their back and we wait for her friend to get the uber. I tease her friend that I want to steal her friend and she says "that's not really stealing, you'd actually just do it" so I pretend to carry her friend away and it's all smooth sailing.
Social vibe: She comes back and she's warm. I'm teasing her about being a "classic teacher" with her fun facts, she opens up about her job, her trip to Berlin, fills me in on inside jokes but this time there's a random guy talking to her friend... PERFECT.
Qualifying vibe: I ask her what her type is personlity wise & she says she likes ambitious guys and I say most girls think they do but they can't handle them. I give an example of having to cancel last minute and she responds, if a guy has to respond for good reason that's cool and qualifies more by saying she's been in long distance relationships so if she can't see a guy one weekend, it's not that deep. I give a light nod of lightly impressed. QUALIFYING is such a big part of my game these days and I think it makes such a difference in my humble opinion.
Sexual vibe: Learning from my mistake of the last girl that hooked, I realize there's a risk of this being fuzzy, warm but platonic and I can't think of a smooth way of escalating so I ask her about dating experiences, personality of guys she likes and sloppily escalate by asking her what she's like in the bedroom and what i'm like. I cold read her accurately and impressively she cold reads me. I also asked her what she thinks of me and she explicitly says attractive and while taking about cold reads and sex I agree with her cold read that I'm a giver and explain in detail how girls respond when they orgasm and how I like it. Her eyes light up and it's game onnnnnnn.
Comfort vibe: At this point gears rapidly switch and she says "let's talk about trauma" Loool, girls can be autistic but in fairness I started by jumping to sex. I say I'm fortunate to not have much trauma and she says where do I start... I use this as an escalation window to isolate her from the bar to sofas. She tells me about how her dad dies when she was young, I reply with "fuckk" a sad face and show empathy. I just let her express herself, bond over family and she starts to get even more touchy/cuddly with me.
Friend finds us: Her friend comes back with the guy, at first I thought he's charming but then realize he's sloppy and uncoordinated and can't tell his girl's not feeling it. My girl and her friend give each other a look and I can tell I get the greenlight to pull her home.
Playing savior: I "be-friend" the guy who thinks it's a 2-man step and as we walk out tell him "bro, I'm telling you this because I'd want to know if I were you, not going to lie her friend's not seeing you in that way" he to my genuine surprise says I'm wrong and that he thinks it's on. I cool him off to where we agree he'll say bye to the friend and see if she bites to join him home. Shock horror she doesn't and he goes. The girls then love me even more as someone who's got their back and we wait for her friend to get the uber. I tease her friend that I want to steal her friend and she says "that's not really stealing, you'd actually just do it" so I pretend to carry her friend away and it's all smooth sailing.
The Pull
This is getting long so I'll get to it. While waiting for our uber some random guys say we looked really cute and wholesome and they wanted to say hello after leaving the strip club. So random lol, we're friendly, they're chill and I play this up to say how cute are we to have that response? She also calls out one for being on drugs and he responds "can you forgive a man for being on a packet??" which we found hilarious and reminded us of Shakespeare. We randomly say it and laugh while getting to know her on the uber home
Veryyyyyy smooth if I say so myself. No LMR whatsoever (biggest cure is prevention), I remember what artist she likes and play it on my Alexa when I get home which gets her vibing, comfortable & cuddly, I again sloppily just like "I've wanted to kiss you since the club but held myself" she says "you can wait longer" I respond "it's a struggle" with a smirk I let it hold, she says "you can if you want" hold it longer get her wrapped on top of me start kissing, she starts giggling like a child before apologising. I laugh and say it's endearing/fine. This repeats, she asks me why I find her attractive, I qualify her on specific personality traits based on things she's told me, I ask her back she said "you're hot" *facepalm*. She comments on "you have no expectations" and how I'm so "calm". I build more comfort on saying the calmness is how my mum raised me (that makes me sick in my mouth reading back lol how cringe), kiss a bit more, take her to the bed and the rest is history
Conclusion
Fun experience, she stays over & ends up being late to her friend's birthday party the next day which shows the power of creating a bubble.
Unfortunately they live 1-2 hours away so unlikely anything will come from it.
Sent an imessage & got no response. Going to get more experiences/ data before seeing if I have a retention challenge or not. Wouldn't be the first time I've had to fix this.
Also bitter sweet as although this is a win it's not the way I want to win. Want to be like my wings who're currently pulling by midnight. I ended up getting this girl home at 4am which is not sustainable for me. Typing that up though I realize I'm in a bubble & should probably be more grateful but alas, the better you get the more you expect.
Lastly want to transition to where DG is like 75% of my lays as I think that's what will get me to absolute abundance quicker and I have a plan I've been working on behind the scenes to get there.
Will share the journey as I figure all of this out.
