kiss on her cheeks & neck but no lips: An AVALANCHE of shit tests & obstacles?

[PaulieFlyn10]

Girlschase blog and forum has been really helpful the past two weeks. Was able to get 4 lays with really cute girls. Really appreciate it guys.

However, a scenario with one girl recently had me super confused. Met her online then went to her house for the first time... we talked about school, sex stuff... what turns her on and things like that

I pecked her on the cheeks, touched her (she'd playfully remove my hands and we'd vibe again then i'd touch her again and she wouldn't mind). Tried kissing her twice but she turned away. Laughing the first time. Almost getting annoyed the second time so i backed off

Later on she said neck kisses don't turn her on and she only gets turned on by her bf. Lol i told her she was capping on both and we had a brief debate out it

After a while the mood got a bit intense... pillow talks and all. She'd face me and I'd kiss her neck &cheeks, rub her body. But when it came to kissing her lips she didn't want it. She was half annoyed, half smiling/laughing through it all while intermittently mentioning she had a bf.

She made a comment about blocking me if i kissed her lips so i just continued to kiss other parts of her but since i didn't have time so i just ended things there

As i left, she said "we could've been friends but i tried to make out with her"

So right now, I'm confused.... why would she allow me kiss her neck and body but not her lips? Isn't a comfort issue? Arousal issue or her bf?

 

[DonGately]

I think she was pretty clear, tbh. She wanted your attention but was never going to sleep with you and told you several times it sounds like.

If she's not gonna sleep with you you are better off just avoiding her until she's single/reaches out to you. You've made your intent clear which is good.

As i left, she said "we could've been friends but...'

My standard go-to when this has happened [or wants to be friends only] is always, 'I don't need anymore female friends.'

Again, communicate intent and -- dominance in this case. Now she thinks maybe you're the prize. Presumably she will be single in the future. And she knows you will never doormat for her.

 

[Kaida]

Some girls find kissing on the lips more intimate than sex. She just wasn’t ready for that yet. That’s fine, you still could have make something out of it.

It looks like you were overly fixated on kissing her on the lips. If your goal was to get dick in pussy, why didn’t you try escalating other ways? Instead of busting the resistance head-on, sometimes you just need to get around it.

Its possible she would have let you gradually take off her clothes as you kissed other parts of her body, without ever kissing her lips. Your way of escalation seems to need more flexibility.

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Some girls find kissing on the lips more intimate than sex. She just wasn’t ready for that yet. That’s fine, you still could have make something out of it.

It looks like you were overly fixated on kissing her on the lips. If your goal was to get dick in pussy, why didn’t you try escalating other ways? Instead of busting the resistance head-on, sometimes you just need to get around it.

Its possible she would have let you gradually take off her clothes as you kissed other parts of her body, without ever kissing her lips. Your way of escalation seems to need more flexibility.

Hey, thanks for the reply. Kissing on the lips has been my go-to way for escalation. So getting turned down like that gets me flustered.

It was the first time of that happening. Normally when it happens in the past, the girls give in some secs or minutes later... this one for some reason didn't seem to work

Also, another reason i didn't try other things was because i had to leave early. I saw the disappointment in her face about it tho. Almost felt like she would have given in at some point

But I'm not totally sure

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

I think she was pretty clear, tbh. She wanted your attention but was never going to sleep with you and told you several times it sounds like.

If she's not gonna sleep with you you are better off just avoiding her until she's single/reaches out to you. You've made your intent clear which is good.



My standard go-to when this has happened [or wants to be friends only] is always, 'I don't need anymore female friends.'

Again, communicate intent and -- dominance in this case. Now she thinks maybe you're the prize. Presumably she will be single in the future. And she knows you will never doormat for her.

Hey DonGately, thanks for the reply.

Well the signals were pretty mixed... at the beginning, she was resistant to touches and kisses on her body

But as the mood got more seductive, the resistance stopped. I would kiss really closely to her lips, when i tried to kiss her lips... she'd playfully tuck her lips in

I've had similar experiences like this and at some point, the girls give in to the kiss and it's on. This was my first time it didn't happen

 

[DonGately]

Did those girls keep mentioning their BF while not allowing even a kiss on the lips? Seems like a big diff imo.

 

[Glow]

Youre hammering against resistance points (mashine-gun kissing before shes properly sexually activated)

1) Build the desire and 2) delay gratification

vs just gratifying

 

[Skills]

Youre hammering against resistance points (mashine-gun kissing before shes properly sexually activated)

1) Build the desire and 2) delay gratification

vs just gratifying

Yeah the right way is soooo much sexual tension that she is the one that tries first

Op read this:

Bring back physical game part 2.- Featuring ijjjjji containment and 60 yoc secrets of micro escalations

Alright guys i spent the last couple of days going off on a seducer, he couldn't text for shit! his texting improved tremendously, tears come out of my eyes when i saw his texting, he has second generations verbals on point (wayyyyyyy better than me like 50 times he is very technical), he goes...

www.skilledseducer.com

And look at glow answer here:

Is it really over if you don't kiss on the first date?

Hello huntmates! I am a little bit confused about this particular topic. I have friends who don't kiss/make out with their dates on the first date but fuck with them on the 2nd or 3rd one regardless. I have also dated girls whom I haven't kissed until the 3rd date, and that didn't seem to...

www.skilledseducer.com

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Youre hammering against resistance points (mashine-gun kissing before shes properly sexually activated)

1) Build the desire and 2) delay gratification

vs just gratifying

Hey @Glow Thanks a lot for this... I'll keep a mental note on this. looking back I think you're probably right.

For example, when i told her I'd be leaving in 30 mins i noticed she felt bad, she slowly started getting more aroused with little resistance.

Felt if i stuck through by arousing her more and building desire like you said it would have worked out. Right now tho, i feel she's in auto rejection mode basically cuz the whole thing looked like i missed an escalation window ( called her once and she hasn't called back)

So my questions are:

1) what's the next step? Do i ignore her or send a text?

2) what are your go to ways to build desire?

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Yeah the right way is soooo much sexual tension that she is the one that tries first

Op read this:

Bring back physical game part 2.- Featuring ijjjjji containment and 60 yoc secrets of micro escalations

Alright guys i spent the last couple of days going off on a seducer, he couldn't text for shit! his texting improved tremendously, tears come out of my eyes when i saw his texting, he has second generations verbals on point (wayyyyyyy better than me like 50 times he is very technical), he goes...

www.skilledseducer.com

And look at glow answer here:

Is it really over if you don't kiss on the first date?

Hello huntmates! I am a little bit confused about this particular topic. I have friends who don't kiss/make out with their dates on the first date but fuck with them on the 2nd or 3rd one regardless. I have also dated girls whom I haven't kissed until the 3rd date, and that didn't seem to...

www.skilledseducer.com

Thanks for the recommendations @Skills

I have a question regarding the kissing stuff... to my knowledge it's common practice for the man to go in for the kiss first in the community. And it's been how i do things too.

Do you think it's better if she does it first?

And don't you think most girls will be shy/nervous to go first so they wait for the guy to do it?

 

[Skills]

Thanks for the recommendations @Skills

I have a question regarding the kissing stuff... to my knowledge it's common practice for the man to go in for the kiss first in the community. And it's been how i do things too.

Do you think it's better if she does it first?

And don't you think most girls will be shy/nervous to go first so they wait for the guy to do it?

Brah she is not going to go for the kiss obviously is the masculine role, did you read the 2 links i gave u and the links and explanations there cause is answer in detail there, you want to get in a situation were there is a lot of sexual tension and she is expecting and baiting u for a kiss like minute 2:25 in this video:

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Brah she is not going to go for the kiss obviously is the masculine role, did you read the 2 links i gave u and the links and explanations there cause is answer in detail there, you want to get in a situation were there is a lot of sexual tension and she is expecting and baiting u for a kiss like minute 2:25 in this video:

Thanks for clarifying... now i get what you mean

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Did those girls keep mentioning their BF while not allowing even a kiss on the lips? Seems like a big diff imo.

Nah they didn't continuously mention the bf

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Hey @Chase I'll be seeing this girl again. I read your auto rejection article and i felt that after everything that happened it was a mixture of auto rejection & ASD (like 70/30) . So i sent her a warm text telling her how i enjoyed her vibe and it felt weird if we don't spend some time together

I agree with what @Glow said about me not building enough arousal.

So in a thread i was watching, you mentioned telling her "come over here" then whispering as an arousal example. Do you think something like that would work as an arousal technique for mid/end game?

Or are there better ones you'd recommend?