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Major cause of approach anxiety: Social Repercussions

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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So today I went to a college campus. I've been looking forward to this for a while as I realized that there would be many many girls there and I figure that this could be a chance for me to test out what I learned from reading lay reports. I felt like I would be free since I'm just using the one campus to apply to study in another campus, as a result I would probably never see anyone from there again. The first thing I wanna tackle is keeping calm in social interactions.

However, this didn't really happen.

I only spoke to a girl once and that was when her and I had to sit together as we were registering for the college. It was kinda awkward but it went well all things considered.

The guy helping me register led me to his cubicle where the girl was and offered me a seat as he went away somewhere.

Me: hello
Her: hi
Me: how are you?
Her: fine thanks you? (I couldn't hear if she actually said the "thanks you?" part as she was already speaking softly. But she was giving me a pretty cute smile tho.
Me: what are you applying for?
Her: pshychology
Me: awesome. I wanted computer sciences. But I met so many awesome lecturers that I don't know anymore :)
Her: *head nod while smiling and starts looking away*
Me:......
Her:......
Me:.......so have you always wanted psychology or did somebody inspire you?

She was about to answer me but the guy came back. He gave the two of us some forms to fill out. We each had 4 forms to fill. But the many documents on the table kinda made it look like we were gonna fill out a whole book.

Me: ok. So I just gotta fill out this form? *points to a form*
Guy: yeah
Me: and this one? *points to another*
Guy: yeah
Me: and this and this? * points to two other forms with one hand and picks up all the other papers as though their next to be signed
Guy: *starts laughing* yeah

In my peripheral I see the girl giggle but she seems to be holding it in.

Anyway, at this point there weren't anymore topics anywhere near my mind. So I hunched over my papers and started scribbling. She's going through her papers in an almost graceful manner.

She finishes first. I wanna say: "ok, I can see you waiting for me. Just gimme a minute :)".....but I chicken out.

I finally finish (after getting another form for making a mistake) I lean back in my seat.

I wanna say:"ok, I'm done. So now I can give you the attention you've been waiting for :)"....but I chicken out.

So now we just chilling inside of a cubicle of awkwardness. :(

Eventually I just muster up the courage to ask: "Sooooooooo.....how ya dooooing?" *i ask this using Isabella's tone of voice from phineas and ferb whenever she asks phineas "what ya dooooing?" in her curious tone.

She giggles.

Yes!!!

Her(giggling): I'm fine.
Me:.....
Her:.....
Me: so which school did you graduate from?
Her: blah blah highschool
Me: what? *Leans into her*
Her: blah blah high school
Me: blah blah high school?
Her: yah (in a "close enough" sort of tone)
Me: oh. How was it?
Her: well.....

Guy comes back at this point.

They talk and talk, blah blah. And then he takes her away. He leaves first and she falls behind as she has to take her documents. I'm not really sure if I'm remembering this correctly but.....she seemed to be taking them quite slowly.

I'm not sure if this is an approach signal or if she's just trying not to drop stuff. But eventually she finishes and without looking my way (still looking down but this time down and away from me) she says:

Bye.

Me out loud: bye :)
Me in my mind: bye :(

Anyway, I'm just glad I managed to speak to somebody today. But the one thing I realized today was that a lot of the time whenever I see somebody approachable, the one thing I kept thinking was:

What if I go and people notice?
OR
What if she rejects me and people hear?
OR
What if she accepts me and people notice?

I know this was a bit of overeaction on my part because I won't see those people again. But I realize that the emotions I felt when asking those questions (which were still strong enough to give me approach anxiety) are going to triple in size when I end up on a campus where I might run into the same women over and over again and the same guys and crowds over and over again.

After visiting the college I went to a mall to redeem myself but mostly to check it out. But the same thing kept me from approaching.

I had a reputation of being weird in my highschool. I'm quite sure everybody I know said that at least twice. I don't wanna carry that over to college by being rejected everywhere I go and then having to next a whole lotta students. I read the lay reports and the way the guys acted was so socially inept that it seemed impossible for them to get a bad rep.

So what do ya think? Am I overthinking things? Or should I still tread carefully this year. Sure it will be slow but at least my rep won't be reviewed as the guy who is rejected by one and by all.

All opinions are welcome and I can't ask anymore questions as I haven't the slightest clue as to how I can go around this.

If the weird reputation is something I have to go through to gain experience (I.e, there is no escape from being a jester first and then peasent and then king) then I'll go through it happily since progress is my main objective.
 

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@Ash You are correct that you are thinking WAY too much. My biggest suggestion is that you start getting rejected. Trust me it will happen, as it happens to EVERYONE. No matter who you are or how popular, famous, handsome, cool, talented, etc. you are there will always be some people who wont care for you. Even if someone does like you there is a chance you will be at the wrong place, wrong time. Maybe they are having a bad day. Maybe they just got terrible news, maybe they just got off work with a terrible boss who they hate...I could go on. Long story short: there will never be a sure chance for a perfect encounter. To put it nicely, it takes a self centered person to believe that people around them even care what they say to someone else. Even if they did happen to hear you what is the worst thing they could do? Riot? Laugh? Murder you? And what's most plausible? Have you ever ignored two (or more) people talking? We all do it everyday. Unless you are hitting on someone's wife or girlfriend, the most that you will get is someone wondering why you are talking so loud. :)

You are the only one holding you back from getting over approach anxiety. You came to this site for a reason and I assume not just to read about other people getting laid. It's your turn whenever you are ready. So, look at the Newbie Assignment and start there. Scope out some places to meet girls, work on posture, make eye contact, say hello, small talk...those are things you can start and are very easy, they help you build up confidence when you realize that you can talk to anyone. Make sure before you start talking to girls that you are attracted to, try just talking to random people so you begin to feel social and see that its not big and scary. Try for everyday, say hello to someone new, maybe 5 new people...even every other day is ok.

As for weird reputation...Be whoever you want to be. Be the best version of you.
 
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Marcellus

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Keep pushing Ash, Keep it up!

Read this article, it pretty much covers your fears.

https://www.girlschase.com/content/will-people-recognize-you-are-out-pick-girls

Sometimes we just come up with the dumbest excuses, what exactly would happen if someone saw you approach a girl? They'd probably think- What a fucking baller. And if you get rejected, the fact that you did something that 99% of guys wont do( I made up that figure, not quites sure tbh) is pretty freaking incredible.

And the last point, who fucking cares? WHO FUCKING CARES? It's your life, not theirs. It's YOUR life. Do what you want hombre.

Marcellus
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Ayt. Thanks guys. There was a point when I didn't have approach anxiety since I didn't care about people's opinions of me. But now that I want to become a social veteran I wasn't quite sure if this rule was one which had to be thrown away or nah.

Thanks for clearing it up :)

I guess I was surprised since around my home its usually quiet and there aren't a lot of people running around. And I'm used to talking to girls one on one. If I really were to socialise at the college then I would have had to speak to groups of people at a time in crowded halls. So I learned two things from yesterday and the board:

1) don't worry about social punishment since its all in my head
2) get ready to approach groups

I also learned a lot from the interaction with the girl in the cubicle. So yesterday was a pretty good day.
 

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Ash said:
I had a reputation of being weird in my highschool. I'm quite sure everybody I know said that at least twice. I don't wanna carry that over to college by being rejected everywhere I go and then having to next a whole lotta students. I read the lay reports and the way the guys acted was so socially inept that it seemed impossible for them to get a bad rep.

So what do ya think? Am I overthinking things? Or should I still tread carefully this year. Sure it will be slow but at least my rep won't be reviewed as the guy who is rejected by one and by all.

2 days ago I was studying in the lounge. I overheard 2 girls chatting:
Girl A: You know in my lab group there's a weird guy.
Girl B: Uh huh
Girl A: This guy just talked and talked, without any feedback.
Girl B: Uh huh
Girl A: In a monotone voice, like "I'm John, did you do the prelab, I did mine, do you know what's the hardest question is, it's question 3"
Girl B: Uh huh
I cringed. I used to be "that guy". Now it's much better. I can talk normally to girls. If I hasn't done a few hundred approaches, I would still be "that guy".

My solution is:
- At school - Sniper game: Play safe. Only approach if the girl gives approach invitation.
- At a mall, preferably far away from school - Mass approach: Play aggressive. Just approach a lot, and push it as far as possible.
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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CuriosityKillsTheCat said:
My solution is:
- At school - Sniper game: Play safe. Only approach if the girl gives approach invitation.
- At a mall, preferably far away from school - Mass approach: Play aggressive. Just approach a lot, and push it as far as possible.

I like the ideas. I can still be sociable to the girls who don't gimme approach invitations (you know, if I end up in a situation where I'm doing nothing and am just trying to chat random people up) but if a girl gives me approach invitations, I can go for her with my Process and try to spark some electricity between us ;)

Sniper game sounds good. And I like the mall Idea because it's sort of my thing to mass approach.

Thanks curiosity.

I also just realized that my fundamentals being on point (once I get them on point) means that a lot of girls will find me attractive. So they'll do half of the job for me anyways by making the people I speak to warmer in their responses (hopefully at least). So this will make your advice even more killer!!!!!! XD
 
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