Orgasms Making Her Cum From PIV Sex?

[ferrero]

(as a side note... we've been talking about doing a sex product for years on GC. Can't quite figure out the proper way to do that though.

@Chase, per your sex product / vids, maybe try hiring pornographic professionals.

They already know what to do, know how to take directions, can often be cognizant of their position in regards to filming angles (can be surprisingly important), and are more of a sure thing when it comes to, ahem, "performing"... as in, they can reliably GET and KEEP boners while on camera and under (sometimes harsh) lighting, all the while receiving direction.

Just spitballin' here. Might be worth looking into if you haven't already.

 

[DeepShadow]

(as a side note... we've been talking about doing a sex product for years on GC. Can't quite figure out the proper way to do that though. Should I get naked and film myself doing all these different things to chicks? Is that undignified -- or personally compromising -- and I should get a model to do it? Should we just use animations -- but then you aren't getting the full effect of actual live sex? We talked about Hector doing it but he has a fiancée and I don't want any "GC destroyed my marriage" hanging over me. Anyway, it's in the brainstorming phase, but I don't know when it might move beyond that...)

Chase

Chase if you want I can send you the video of one of the guys who is the most famous in the field of sex who gives courses, and in the course uses the strap on. But in the video course he does it both with the dildo tied up and without it of course.
however, the course would be fantastic because I think it leads to greater knowledge because it would add the psychological knowledge that only a seducer has

 

[moom]

@tomsawyer,



You should be doing other things to increase her enjoyment while maintaining the same position and tempo.

Pin her hands above her head. Lick her nipples. Make out with her (if she won't open her mouth, tell her to: "Open your mouth and kiss me"). Give her commands ("Stick your tongue down my throat"). Dirty talk her, especially on high notes when she's hitting a bit of a pleasure peak ("Your pussy feels sooo good"). Do what @POB's talking about too.

Once you figure out how to make girls orgasm you can switch positions around and bring them to orgasm. It is often not about the position though, but the experience. You can have a girl totally unable to orgasm in Position 1, then switch her around to a bunch of different positions, she's still not cumming, but finally you get into a groove, she's feeling it, you're feeling it, then you switch back to Position 1 and within a few minutes now she's finally cumming. That will happen too.

While you're learning though I recommend you try picking one stable, steady position and finding other creative ways to keep her interest piqued as you pound away at her in a position you feel a.) comfortable and that b.) gives her maximum sensation and penetration.

That might be adapted missionary; it might be something else. But whatever it is, go at it for a while and see if you can't crack it. You're going to need more than 10 minutes though.



See if you can't find one on the "coital alignment technique" (CAT). This is really the proper name for this technique (I invented it independently and didn't even know of CAT's existence until I published my article on it and a few commenters pointed me at CAT). That said, "CAT" also covers a wide range of positions within the coital alignment family, whereas adapted missionary has some very specific hand and body positioning.

Not every video you can find on CAT shows the couple in an adapted missionary position, so look for the ones where the male is in essence lying atop the female's body (not holding himself over her), and ideally ones where the man has his hands wrapped up under the woman's shoulders, pulling her body down as he thrusts up.

You will probably be able to find some videos that give you a general sense of how it works though.

I did a quick search just now... didn't really find anything great. But perhaps with some digging you might find something.

(as a side note... we've been talking about doing a sex product for years on GC. Can't quite figure out the proper way to do that though. Should I get naked and film myself doing all these different things to chicks? Is that undignified -- or personally compromising -- and I should get a model to do it? Should we just use animations -- but then you aren't getting the full effect of actual live sex? We talked about Hector doing it but he has a fiancée and I don't want any "GC destroyed my marriage" hanging over me. Anyway, it's in the brainstorming phase, but I don't know when it might move beyond that...)

Chase

I would buy this product in a heartbeat- a model may be the way? Perhaps porn models?

 

[Chase]

Yeah, that's probably a good suggestion, using porn actors.

Honestly I doubt I'll ever actually get around to making this product, though it is good in theory.

I don't want to be the model, and if I used anyone else I'd need to be telling the guy what to do and watching to make sure he does it right and correcting him on things... I'd have to review the finished product and make sure it's up to spec... and I guess it's not that common among men today but I just have no interest whatsoever in looking at other dudes naked or having to see their dicks. Never watched porn with dicks in it (vaginas-only in my porn-watching days), etc.

So it's probably unlikely to happen with GC, or at least so long as I'm at the helm!

Chase

 

[DeepShadow]

Aim to bring your girl into a sexual trance, where she's totally focused on your cock going in and out, in and out, in and out, just focused on the pleasure, this trance of sexual pleasure, until it wells up so far in her she can't contain it and explodes out in orgasm. When you're training her, that is going to take time... it might take 30 minutes... it might take 45 minutes... it might take an hour... so don't keep switching things on her and breaking the trance.

What do you think promotes trance? I have noticed that at first you shouldn't do anything but fuck but noises maybe but they have to become like you breathe so that you forget them, and add dirty talk and other stuff only while she is coming to orgasm as the last push to do it come, if you do it in the middle of sex I find it breaks the trance if that's what you want to do.

 

[DeepShadow]

Yes, describing what she is feeling.

I'm not an expert at this yet, but I know a lot of it comes from intuition. At some degree, your going to have to make an assumption, an educated guess, of what she is actually feeling in the moment because she will take what you feed her, and relate to it. If it matches up(and what you say is juicy), she will arouse herself.

Here's the good news though, she will actively TRY to relate to what you are telling her. You ever listen to a song, that had some parts that you heavily relate to(and also emotionally stimulate to) but then some other parts where you were more like meh, but still tried to almost force a relation to you?

It's the same thing here. I don't know why we all do it? Perhaps we have a desire to be understood?

I just looked up what I believe this process is called, and here is an article for it.

After reading that what I said above makes much more sense, as it explains why you can miss on some parts of the pace. Your goal at first is just to get an "in" with her internal reality. Once she feels you understand what she's feeling(which should be pretty easy to tell if ur fucking her), then you can lead her internal reality wherever you want(so long as it remains beneficial for her).

Also that music example I gave earlier, is under typical circumstances. When a girl is highly aroused, and has already committed to sex(so no FSC), it is MUCH easier to influence her. Although I will say most of my experience comes from submissive girls, but I still believe its a general state thing regardless of her type.

So, your going to make an educated guess(based on what information she's giving you. Moans/ body movement/ etc) and try to strike a chord in her internal reality and then lead her(and she will submit to your lead because she wants to)

This is where the power really comes from. With your verbals you can paint a reality she would normally never experience with regular sex. Its like your the director of the movie, giving her enticing shots and angles that stimulate and arouse her further. You ever watch porn? lmao its the same thing with the camera work, but now your working inside her mind, and your giving her what she wants to see.

That she part is also really important. As not every girl wants the same thing. This is where truly understanding your girl's inner reality will be really helpful. Some girls love to be dominated, so painting a picture where her tiny little wet pussy is getting absolutely destroyed as you choke the life out her... is well... very stimulating for her

You might have already been doing that physically, but when you it describe to her, in words that HIT, the effect is magnified because she's not in ordinary reality anymore. In her mind she's in a world you built for her where she is getting savagely fucked. This is a trance and she focusing her attention on the arousal. You ever workout and focus on how much it hurts or how hard it is? What about that same workout but instead you focus your attention to how strong you feel? Our attention often dictates what we feel in our internal reality.

Also, I know some guys on this forum who have a lot of experience with dominating women, maybe they would like to chime in.

But then for some other girls, getting dominated and disrespected is not their cup of tea. Or even the same girl, but a different mood or vibe, which I actually consider as a different person.

At that point they might want a more intimate fuck where you fill her up with your warmth as your loving, supple hands caress her cheek.

Different internal reality= different pace to strike a chord.

And I like what you said about keeping her mind distracted. If the girl happens to be uncomfortable for whatever reason, pacing and then leading her is the perfect fix for that.

And from what I've experienced, arousal + comfort = powerful orgasms.

As for getting in your head, not sure what can help with that. Confidence is the first that comes to mind and you can either have it, or justify having it with your past experiences.

So if you don't have it, practice makes perfect.

Could you explain better and how you do it the part of describing assuming what he is feeling and how to understand his inner world and how do you conduct it then? for example when you say "paint a picture in which her little wet pussy is completely destroyed while you choke on her life".
there is what I want to understand is it a sort of descriptive monologue / narration or once you find where you connect with intuition do you repeat more or less the same sentence as the one I mentioned before your example?

 

[Chase]

@DeepShadow,

What do you think promotes trance? I have noticed that at first you shouldn't do anything but fuck but noises maybe but they have to become like you breathe so that you forget them, and add dirty talk and other stuff only while she is coming to orgasm as the last push to do it come, if you do it in the middle of sex I find it breaks the trance if that's what you want to do.

It's like anything that brings about trances in humans: consistent, repetitive movements/sensations that lead to a gradual falling away of the outside world and a focusing upon a singular set point (in this case, sexual sensation).

As far as what you can do to bring it about... you can change positions until you find one you seem to be clicking in. Then just stay in that position and focus on rhythmic movement and passionate sounds/acts (breathing hard, kissing/biting her, grabbing/slapping her, etc.), with more passion and some dirty talk on high points to take her closer to ecstasy.

Chase