Manhattan Solo DG

[bkw]

Yo, what up, everyone?

Man, I've been so relieved to find this daygame place here! I thought the days of good old daygame might have vanished after the pandemic era, but I guess not!

Anyway, a little about me:

I'm 39 years old. I live in Manhattan. I've known about game since the days of DYD (Double Your Dating). None of you probably remember that, as it was at the beginnings of RSD and maybe around the time of "The Game" by Neil Strauss. I've basically been here since the beginning days. I was heavy into daygame during the days of Andy Yosha, Yad, Tom Torero, etc. I started doing daygame on local campuses in Ohio. I then moved to Chicago for DG, and later moved in a van for 2 years as I figured my way through NYC. During this time (2017), I was featured in a documentary with the late, great Torero himself (I was the guy in the van). I really fucking miss Tom, for real. He was a HUGE inspiration for me. I have thousands of approaches under my belt.

I say all this not to toot my own horn. As far as results go, guys do far, far better than me if lays are concerned. I'm not special in any way, and I'm not even that "successful" at daygame. I just want to make the record straight now that I'm not in this shit for ego anymore. I don't want to compare myself to others when it comes to this stuff -- I've learned that causes tremendous pain that is pretty unnecessary, and I am strongly against toxicity from anyone. I'm definitely not here to prove to anyone anything! If you think I suck, then good on you, fuck off, I don't care, because it's about me being happy/satisfied with myself, that's it. With that said, I'm here because I've always loved to journal this stuff, and this place is perfect for that! I also get much motivation by being in this community.

Anyway, my journal will likely be slow and boring for a while. Even though I've seen just about everything when it comes to this stuff, my natural personality is that of an introvert, and it takes a lot for me to gain momentum, etc. Lately, I've been just going out approaching nothing, just to gather some momentum.

Anyway, guys, I'm fucking happy to be here! I am so happy I found another DG forum! Man, I really miss doing this...

I'll start posting regularly.

 

[bkw]

2/14/25

Walked around for some DG (daygame) for roughly 38 minutes today. I haven't approached any girls for a long, long time, as I'm just getting back into it after a while. I've been going out consistently not doing much -- a lot of that has to do with me not really seeing anything I'm that into (I blame a lot of that on the way women dress due to the cold, and also I'm just not feeling it). Today was no different. I really did not see anything I'd like to approach at this time.

My goals right now is just to go out, gather some momentum, and build off that. At the peak "shape" of DG for me, I feel a sense of desperation, almost; I'm sharp, highly motivated, etc. I'm basically like a pacified person right now. I'm not forcing shit right now though. I don't feel the need. I just want to keep going out and get into the habit of it and keep gathering momentum.

 

[bkw]

2/16/25 - Approach 3 + 2# closes (DG)

Man, I've been inspired so much after joining this forum and reading up on your guys' reports. I was very excited to go out today and to do some DG (daygame). This forum has given me "permission" to approach again, or at the least has rid me of apathy and excuses. Very valuable to be part of the community again...

Before coming here, I have had years of experience doing this, but on my own, and away from the community, I'm very apathetic to a fault. I'd walk around when I felt like it and was never really motivated to approach, or made the typical excuses: "she's too young", "I'm not really into her", etc., etc. So today was the first time in a long time I've done multiple approaches in a session, so it feels fucking great!

Approaches:

Approach #1 (Asian girl fishnet stockings)

I was out for 1 hr and 59 minutes today in midtown Manhattan. It is raining all day today, but doesn't matter to me because I'm currently very motivated, and I want to approach daily. The first place I went to was a huge Macy's store off 34th and 6th ave, mainly because it was raining, and I figure I'll give it a try. Walk around a bit, went up a couple floors, didn't really see much so I left. I then went inside a Target store. Same thing. Didn't see anything.

Finally, about 20 minutes in, I spot an Asian girl -- probably early 20s -- in fishnet stockings and looked kind of rebel-like. Before coming to these forums I almost certainly would have thought to myself, "too young", but once again, this forum has shed that excuse (thank god). It's a dumb excuse anyway. So, I didn't see her face as she walked by, so I did a thing where I walked in front of her a way so I could turn back and get a proper glance at her. I noticed she was indeed my type, so as I walked by I quickly turned around to approach and literally a second after I turn around she goes into a girly makeup shop and I make an excuse not to go in. I stand outside for a few minutes for her to come out, eventually I get bored and start walking again.

As I walk down the block a bit, I turn around and come back, and I see her walking, so this time I get behind her and speed up walking and approach her from a side angle. My typical street opener is, "Excuse me, I know this is a bit random, but I was walking by, I saw you and I thought you looked very nice/pretty, so I wanted to say hi". She smiled, but didn't seem to hook as I tried to get into further conversation, her momentum was to keep walking forward. So I let her go, as I felt she didn't seem too interested in talking.

Approach #2 (Ukrainian girl tourist)

Not long after I start walking down the street and see a girl in front of me wearing thin silk-like pants where the outline of her ass was very fit and nice, and it's one of those things you just knew she was hot by her ass. But because I didn't see her face, I walked in front of her so I could turn around to walk by and get a glance at her. Indeed, she was hot, probably 8.5 or so on my scale. I was a bit nervous for this one, as she was somewhat tall and posh-like, wearing a wannabe fur coat and carrying a rainbow umbrella. Regardless, I do the same stop as the previous girl, this time she hooks. My energy is very open, and I'm good at making girls feel comfortable nowadays, even though I was pretty nervous with this one.

Anyway, we talk, and it's a solid conversation where she seemed interested in talking, crosses her legs and give me her full attention and contributes fully. She tells me she's visiting from Ukraine, been here for about a week, currently staying with a friend in New Jersey. I ask her how long she will be here for, which I can't remember her response, but I'm guessing another week or two? Anyway, we talk a bit more, and eventually I go direct and tell her I approached her because I thought she was pretty. I later say if she comes back to Manhattan and wants to hang out, to shoot me a text, and we can grab coffee/drinks (something along those lines). At first, she asks if I have Instagram, which I don't, and she then agrees to take my number. I'm well aware that for many guys it's not optimal to not take her number and to give her mine, and I'm not afraid of taking her number, I'm just in the mood to give out my number as a way of qualification on their part, so basically, I don't have to worry about doing the work if she's not that interested, and she can text me, and it's a bit of qualification on her part; she would be indeed interested in hanging out then. So yeah, I give her my number, we talk a bit more and part ways.

This approach took a lot out of me as I'm not in daygame shape, and as an introvert myself, I don't have these types of conversations a lot unless I'm approaching women, and so I felt a little drained for about 10–15 minutes after. The more I approach, the more this won't bother me, but keep in mind it's been a very long time since I've been out doing this. As I walk around, I allow 2 girls to pass me by without me approaching because I still felt a little drained and wanted to chill for a bit until I gather a little more energy and focus.

Approach #3 (Chinese girl visiting from Boston)

Let me say this now, as it's very important to understand, I'm mostly attracted to Asian women. I find them to be the most attractive -- you'll realize this by the amount of Asian girls I approach in my reports over time. With that said, I see another Asian girl, once again, likely early 20s. And, once again, I know for certain if I wasn't so inspired by this forum I would have not approached her because I would have thought "too young", even though she was pretty tall for a girl (not like that matters). Anyway, so it's freakin' raining pretty hard at this moment, and she's carrying food and a bubble tea in one hand while holding an umbrella in the other as she walked, so her hands were full. I wait for a little space to approach her as she walks ahead of me alongside people. I spot an opening and approach, similarly to how I did with the other girls. Once again, this girl hooks really nicely. Conversation goes very good, and I'm enjoying myself, and she looks to also be enjoying herself as well. She has a somewhat thick accent as she's from China. I could tell by talking to her there was spark there, and I would dominate her easily on seduction, and she would have loved it (my feeling). I find out she's visiting only for a day from Boston since her sister lives here, and she came to see an Opera. I find out she comes here monthly for these reasons, and only because she takes the Amtrak train here, which is only like 30-something dollars (good deal). She is only here for the day, so I make sure to go direct and tell her I approached her because I thought she was pretty. I then proceed to invite her out for bubble tea/drinks some time, she agrees, and I proceed to give her my number but realize her hands are full and tell her I'll take her number and text her my name. I do so, and after a little more talking, we part ways. Very good interaction. I would love to see this girl again if she's in town.

So now I have two girls who are only visiting (Ukrainian girl and Chinese girl), and whom both say they are likely to be here again. I tell them to text me if they visit and want to hang out, so it will be interesting to see if they do, in which I would take that as high compliance since they would remember me and be interested by reaching out and contacting me.

Conclusion:

So yeah, it feels so good to be doing this again, and I feel very fortunate I was able to find this forum, as I gather huge inspiration being here. It's like I have "permission" again to do this; it's like I have people here who are rooting me on, and I feel excited to share my experience with you guys. It's a great motivation for me. I feel very fortunate.

Once again, I plan on going out every day for the days I can. So expect more reports very soon!

Goals:

1. Go out daily
2. I've always liked the 30+ approaches per week goal, or two-hour sessions per outing, with optimally 10 approaches per outing
3. Right now, I'm going off how I feel as far as how I want to do my pickup game. In other words, if I feel like giving out my number more than taking numbers, I'll do that, even though I know it's not most optimal. Or, if I take a girl home, and I'm not really that interested in sex, I'll just talk to her and enjoy myself instead. Those kind of things. From experience, I know the more I'm doing this the more I get narrower in how I prefer to do things in that I get very direct, I tend to filter for certain girls as not to waste time, and I go for the jugular, so to speak. Right now, I'm just waddling in the water and taking it all in and waiting for my emotions to guide me to what I authentically want from these interactions. Right now, It's just to go out as much as possible, approach as much as possible, and see where I want to go from there. Momentum is currently the name of the game.

I'll stay posted

 

[AspiringStoic]

2/16/25 - Approach 3 + 2# closes (DG)

Man, I've been inspired so much after joining this forum and reading up on your guys' reports. I was very excited to go out today and to do some DG (daygame). This forum has given me "permission" to approach again, or at the least has rid me of apathy and excuses. Very valuable to be part of the community again...

Before coming here, I have had years of experience doing this, but on my own, and away from the community, I'm very apathetic to a fault. I'd walk around when I felt like it and was never really motivated to approach, or made the typical excuses: "she's too young", "I'm not really into her", etc., etc. So today was the first time in a long time I've done multiple approaches in a session, so it feels fucking great!

Approaches:

Approach #1 (Asian girl fishnet stockings)

I was out for 1 hr and 59 minutes today in midtown Manhattan. It is raining all day today, but doesn't matter to me because I'm currently very motivated, and I want to approach daily. The first place I went to was a huge Macy's store off 34th and 6th ave, mainly because it was raining, and I figure I'll give it a try. Walk around a bit, went up a couple floors, didn't really see much so I left. I then went inside a Target store. Same thing. Didn't see anything.

Finally, about 20 minutes in, I spot an Asian girl -- probably early 20s -- in fishnet stockings and looked kind of rebel-like. Before coming to these forums I almost certainly would have thought to myself, "too young", but once again, this forum has shed that excuse (thank god). It's a dumb excuse anyway. So, I didn't see her face as she walked by, so I did a thing where I walked in front of her a way so I could turn back and get a proper glance at her. I noticed she was indeed my type, so as I walked by I quickly turned around to approach and literally a second after I turn around she goes into a girly makeup shop and I make an excuse not to go in. I stand outside for a few minutes for her to come out, eventually I get bored and start walking again.

As I walk down the block a bit, I turn around and come back, and I see her walking, so this time I get behind her and speed up walking and approach her from a side angle. My typical street opener is, "Excuse me, I know this is a bit random, but I was walking by, I saw you and I thought you looked very nice/pretty, so I wanted to say hi". She smiled, but didn't seem to hook as I tried to get into further conversation, her momentum was to keep walking forward. So I let her go, as I felt she didn't seem too interested in talking.

Approach #2 (Ukrainian girl tourist)

Not long after I start walking down the street and see a girl in front of me wearing thin silk-like pants where the outline of her ass was very fit and nice, and it's one of those things you just knew she was hot by her ass. But because I didn't see her face, I walked in front of her so I could turn around to walk by and get a glance at her. Indeed, she was hot, probably 8.5 or so on my scale. I was a bit nervous for this one, as she was somewhat tall and posh-like, wearing a wannabe fur coat and carrying a rainbow umbrella. Regardless, I do the same stop as the previous girl, this time she hooks. My energy is very open, and I'm good at making girls feel comfortable nowadays, even though I was pretty nervous with this one.

Anyway, we talk, and it's a solid conversation where she seemed interested in talking, crosses her legs and give me her full attention and contributes fully. She tells me she's visiting from Ukraine, been here for about a week, currently staying with a friend in New Jersey. I ask her how long she will be here for, which I can't remember her response, but I'm guessing another week or two? Anyway, we talk a bit more, and eventually I go direct and tell her I approached her because I thought she was pretty. I later say if she comes back to Manhattan and wants to hang out, to shoot me a text, and we can grab coffee/drinks (something along those lines). At first, she asks if I have Instagram, which I don't, and she then agrees to take my number. I'm well aware that for many guys it's not optimal to not take her number and to give her mine, and I'm not afraid of taking her number, I'm just in the mood to give out my number as a way of qualification on their part, so basically, I don't have to worry about doing the work if she's not that interested, and she can text me, and it's a bit of qualification on her part; she would be indeed interested in hanging out then. So yeah, I give her my number, we talk a bit more and part ways.

This approach took a lot out of me as I'm not in daygame shape, and as an introvert myself, I don't have these types of conversations a lot unless I'm approaching women, and so I felt a little drained for about 10–15 minutes after. The more I approach, the more this won't bother me, but keep in mind it's been a very long time since I've been out doing this. As I walk around, I allow 2 girls to pass me by without me approaching because I still felt a little drained and wanted to chill for a bit until I gather a little more energy and focus.

Approach #3 (Chinese girl visiting from Boston)

Let me say this now, as it's very important to understand, I'm mostly attracted to Asian women. I find them to be the most attractive -- you'll realize this by the amount of Asian girls I approach in my reports over time. With that said, I see another Asian girl, once again, likely early 20s. And, once again, I know for certain if I wasn't so inspired by this forum I would have not approached her because I would have thought "too young", even though she was pretty tall for a girl (not like that matters). Anyway, so it's freakin' raining pretty hard at this moment, and she's carrying food and a bubble tea in one hand while holding an umbrella in the other as she walked, so her hands were full. I wait for a little space to approach her as she walks ahead of me alongside people. I spot an opening and approach, similarly to how I did with the other girls. Once again, this girl hooks really nicely. Conversation goes very good, and I'm enjoying myself, and she looks to also be enjoying herself as well. She has a somewhat thick accent as she's from China. I could tell by talking to her there was spark there, and I would dominate her easily on seduction, and she would have loved it (my feeling). I find out she's visiting only for a day from Boston since her sister lives here, and she came to see an Opera. I find out she comes here monthly for these reasons, and only because she takes the Amtrak train here, which is only like 30-something dollars (good deal). She is only here for the day, so I make sure to go direct and tell her I approached her because I thought she was pretty. I then proceed to invite her out for bubble tea/drinks some time, she agrees, and I proceed to give her my number but realize her hands are full and tell her I'll take her number and text her my name. I do so, and after a little more talking, we part ways. Very good interaction. I would love to see this girl again if she's in town.

So now I have two girls who are only visiting (Ukrainian girl and Chinese girl), and whom both say they are likely to be here again. I tell them to text me if they visit and want to hang out, so it will be interesting to see if they do, in which I would take that as high compliance since they would remember me and be interested by reaching out and contacting me.

Conclusion:

So yeah, it feels so good to be doing this again, and I feel very fortunate I was able to find this forum, as I gather huge inspiration being here. It's like I have "permission" again to do this; it's like I have people here who are rooting me on, and I feel excited to share my experience with you guys. It's a great motivation for me. I feel very fortunate.

Once again, I plan on going out every day for the days I can. So expect more reports very soon!

Goals:

1. Go out daily
2. I've always liked the 30+ approaches per week goal, or two-hour sessions per outing, with optimally 10 approaches per outing
3. Right now, I'm going off how I feel as far as how I want to do my pickup game. In other words, if I feel like giving out my number more than taking numbers, I'll do that, even though I know it's not most optimal. Or, if I take a girl home, and I'm not really that interested in sex, I'll just talk to her and enjoy myself instead. Those kind of things. From experience, I know the more I'm doing this the more I get narrower in how I prefer to do things in that I get very direct, I tend to filter for certain girls as not to waste time, and I go for the jugular, so to speak. Right now, I'm just waddling in the water and taking it all in and waiting for my emotions to guide me to what I authentically want from these interactions. Right now, It's just to go out as much as possible, approach as much as possible, and see where I want to go from there. Momentum is currently the name of the game.

I'll stay posted

Great to see another member on the forums doing daygame and posting reports. Look forward to regularly reading about your adventures.

Just on the numbers thing, I must say I have never had anything workout when the onus was on the girl to text and make the first move. I think 99.99 percent of time they will never text you first.

And its not because they dont like you, but a girl texting and making the first move to them is like saying "I want to get fucked". And even if they want to, they would not say it out loud and therefore I dont think they will make that first move.

I am not saying its impossible but just the odds are very very low. So I think its always best to get the contact and make that first move.

But I think thats not the main focus at the moment. You are just looking to get back to approaching, so great job on getting in the approaches. Look forward to hearing more.

 

[bkw]

Great to see another member on the forums doing daygame and posting reports. Look forward to regularly reading about your adventures.

Just on the numbers thing, I must say I have never had anything workout when the onus was on the girl to text and make the first move. I think 99.99 percent of time they will never text you first.

And its not because they dont like you, but a girl texting and making the first move to them is like saying "I want to get fucked". And even if they want to, they would not say it out loud and therefore I dont think they will make that first move.

I am not saying its impossible but just the odds are very very low. So I think its always best to get the contact and make that first move.

But I think thats not the main focus at the moment. You are just looking to get back to approaching, so great job on getting in the approaches. Look forward to hearing more.

Thank you so much for having interest in my thread and commenting!

I personally have had success with girls hitting me back when I gave them my number initially, both at work and off cold-approach. I agree that the chances are lessened, and overall it's not optimal to convert, perhaps, more "maybe" girls though. Knowing myself, I'll likely go back to me taking their numbers instead in time, but you're right, right now I'm just putting most of my attention on momentum. I hope you don't find what I say here dismissive, as I generally agree that it's not optimal, for sure.

I'll be following your thread as well, and I'm also very much interested in your journey as well!

 

[Atlas IV]

Hey man, welcome to the forum! Great to have new blood, and especially someone who winged with the great Tom Torero!

My early daygame was heavily inspired by him too. I have some of his infield material and Street Hustle which I go back and review from time to time for inspiration.

Looks like you've got the right mindset for this and you're focused on taking PUA seriously. Looking forward to following your journey, and hope we can learn from each other!

 

[AspiringStoic]

I personally have had success with girls hitting me back when I gave them my number initially, both at work and off cold-approach. I agree that the chances are lessened, and overall it's not optimal to convert, perhaps, more "maybe" girls though. Knowing myself, I'll likely go back to me taking their numbers instead in time, but you're right, right now I'm just putting most of my attention on momentum. I hope you don't find what I say here dismissive, as I generally agree that it's not optimal, for sure.

Nope. Do not find it dismissive at all. Its just from my experience I have not yet had any success, but its good to know that you have had some reference experiences of it working when she texts first. And if she does, it definitely indicates strong interest for sure.

 

[bkw]

Hey man, welcome to the forum! Great to have new blood, and especially someone who winged with the great Tom Torero!

My early daygame was heavily inspired by him too. I have some of his infield material and Street Hustle which I go back and review from time to time for inspiration.

Looks like you've got the right mindset for this and you're focused on taking PUA seriously. Looking forward to following your journey, and hope we can learn from each other!

Thanks so much!

To be fair, I didn't wing with Tom, and only met him once for the documentary. I reference him often because of how much of an inspiration he was for me at the time. He told me he always wanted to travel in a van, and not long after he actually bought one! It was pretty cool to see! He seemed like a genuinely nice person. I also have Stealth Seduction

I've been reading your journal as well. Really love it. I'll be following along!

 

[alexlaguma]

welcome brother. looking forward to watching your journey.

 

[bkw]

2/17/25 - 0 Approaches (DG)

Was out 1 hour 12 mins today in Midtown Manhattan. It was cold as all balls and pretty breezy. It might sound a little unbelievable in a busy city like Manhattan, but I honestly did not see all but 2 girls I would have approached during this time—I actually went to approach them, but literally both of them, maybe 10 feet in front of me, walked into a residential right before I was about to approach—I thought to myself, "just my luck".

Now, you might say, "dude, who cares if they go into a residential, just approach," and this is a valid argument I suppose. In Manhattan, these residentials open up in a quiet area right in front of the reception, and it's literally where they live—in other words, I'm fine not approaching in this case; it's not really a big deal that I don't. Sometimes it's fine not to approach in situations like this, so I'm definitely not beating myself up over it.

Fast-walking Asian girl, white fur coat

Anyway, so the first girl I saw was a fast-walking Asian girl in a white fur-looking coat. She was walking really fast and I caught up to her at the crosswalk. I typically do not approach at the crosswalk and I wait for them to cross before I approach. She crossed, and literally right before I was about to approach, she walked inside her residential.

White brunette girl

I knew this was going to happen. So, I'm ending my daygame session around 1 hour 11 mins in and there is this falafel stand I like to get food before I go home, and I just knew that once I got there I'd see someone walk past me—it's uncanny how this stuff happens to me. Lo and behold, as soon as I get to the falafel truck, here comes a pretty white brunette chick walking by. I follow her to approach. Once again, I don't approach at the crosswalk and wait for her to cross, and once again, as soon as she crosses, she's ahead of me maybe 10 feet and right before I approach she goes inside a residential. Lol. I'm like "wtf man".

Once again, in these instances I'm not worrying about approaching at crosswalks or inside residentials. I've approached thousands of girls on the streets before and it's not a big deal. It just so happened today it happened twice to me and not many girls out I would approach.

Conclusion:

So yeah, not beating myself up over this today. In general, I felt fine. I had no anxiety and really no excuses (unless you want to say the crosswalk and residential non-approaches were excuses, which I'm fine with). Literally, just not much out. I didn't stay out the full 2 hours and called it a little early.

Goals:

1. Keep going out daily
2. Ideally, 30+ approaches per week; or 2-hour sessions, with ideally 10 approaches per session (this whole thing here is basically a metric I will always follow; it's a standard. I won't always achieve it, but it's a great metric that gets me results)
3. I'll be number-closing by taking their numbers for a while, as I feel like it now

Side note (when women try to lead):

Interesting to see how girls hit on guys, especially girls that are used to men doing all the work. I say this because I have a little YouTube channel I do that's unrelated to pickup, and there was this girl who emailed me, basically dropping hints she was interested without actually saying it (you know how girls are). I picked up on this as just her proximity of putting herself on my radar was a dead giveaway she was interested. She's cute. Around a 7 on my scale.

Anyway, so she drops "girl hints" in the email by saying stuff like, "...if you ever want to talk," or "I just wanted to hear your voice," weird girl stuff like that. Thing is, she lives in Australia so I'm not expecting anything from it, but I am curious, so I give her my number and tell her to contact me sometime. She does, and it's interesting to see how girls who are used to not approaching and having men approach them actually try to lead. Basically, it got to the point where she was saying in a text message, "OMG - do you like me or not because I think I've made it pretty clear. I need to learn how to speak man," and later, "It's strange for me too and I've never reached out to anyone before. I guess that's why I wanted to talk. Please just know that I like you and you have my number x," and, "Haha it is very brave of me. I'm a very quiet person and a bit shy so this is very different for me too. I never tell men how I feel before, I haven't needed to." Now, all respect to her, because I think it's awesome women do this, especially when they are shy and quiet like she claims she is, so I'm not knocking her and I respect her for it. Only, I know nothing will come of it because she's so far away. She did mention she'd be willing to see me, but I wouldn't ask her to come all the way to America for that, unless it was for other reasons beyond me—first of all, I'm not even sure she would do that, but still. Also, this shit doesn't often happen to me when a girl is so upfront in this manner, so it's interesting for me to see. It was so odd to me, I thought at one point she was trolling me, but now I don't think she was.

Perhaps I'm being a little too critical here though. She admits she is shy and so this might just be her thing rather than a woman thing—personally, I think it's a bit of both. We all know women that will game us so bad we wouldn't even know it until it's far from over, but it's interesting nonetheless.

 

[bkw]

2/18/25 - Approach 2 (realizing some sticking points) - DG

As part of my "try to go out daily" goal, I will continue to do so, or at least until I feel I have the proper momentum.

It was cold today (mid-20's with some windchill). I was out for over 2 hours. Today was the day I noticed a lot of "sticking points", but first let me share the approaches...

Approach #1: White girl (married)

Approached a white girl, who I first thought looked a little young -- geesh, I hate to admit it, but this is a common excuse of mine. When I approached her, she looked to be in her mid to late twenties, so it's definitely an illusion I'm doing with the age thing (sticking point). Anyway, I approach her, say my usual opener, and she says "sorry I'm married" and flashes her ring. I kindly say "have fun" for some reason, and we part ways.

Approach #2: Asian girl, St. Marks

I see, probably a late-twenties or older, Asian girl walk by. I follow to approach and right before I approach she moves to the right to look at a building. I open. She looks a little confused and concerned and kind of scoots around me. I try to keep it going, but wasn't hooking. Let her go.

Biggest current sticking point:

Alright, so those were the only 2 approaches the whole time. However, I quickly realized I'm being too picky, and I'm allowing too many girls to pass me by. This is subtle to me, and it's something I need to be very cognizant of currently. Without getting into the weeds as to why I'm doing this, basically, I'm being too picky and there are girls I should be approaching, but I'm not, at least today. With that said, I think today I could have easily approached 10 girls within the time I was out, so this tells you a major sticking point I'm currently having.

Another sticking point:

Another thing I noticed today is I'm too lazy to jog after a girl if she's walking too fast. Like, today, there was this girl who walked past me but was moving quickly. I started to follow but didn't want to jog to catch up, so I let her go.

Kind-of sticking point:

Not really sure if I'd call this a sticking point or not, but, like yesterday, I was going to approach a couple girls and as I got close they go inside a girly shop and I don't follow to approach. Technically, yes, I can go in and still approach, but not sure if I really want to do this. In other words, I think I'm currently am fine with not doing this. However, I'm sure eventually I'll see it enough where I'll get tired of it and will start doing it. Hence, why momentum I feel is important going out.

Sticking point:

Probably one of my oldest and most common sticking points is the "she's too young" excuse.

Conclusion:

So yeah, the major current sticking point is a combination of being too picky and also not being sharp enough to approach every opportunity -- more like a combination of the two. I need to focus on this mostly, and I'll see my approaches go way up per session. Overall, not very productive as far as approaches go, but productive in the sense of noticing sticking points and building the correct momentum to overcome them.

Goals:

1. Go out daily
2. Next outing I want to work on these sticking points. I think these will be my biggest goals for next outing
3. The typical: 30+ approaches per week, or 2-hour sessions, ideally 10 approaches per outing standard

P.S.

All these sticking points I've experienced before many times. For me, pickup is a lot like working out in the sense that if you stop working out you lose muscle and get out of shape. The same with pickup. When you stop you lose all kinds of momentum and for me these sticking points need to be addressed again. That's my own personal experience. Once again, momentum is very important right now because one day builds on the next, and on the next, to the point where these sticking points are managed and overcome, etc.

 

[bkw]

2/19/25 - Approach 1 (DG)

Overview:
Today I had 4 different girls walk into girl shops right before I was about to approach, IN A ROW. I couldn't believe it. After having experienced this a lot this week alone, I'm adding to my goals to approach girls who walk in stores. And it's not like I'm following them for blocks or anything, but it keeps happening within a very short amount of time.

Other than that, early on I passed up a tall Asian girl that was walking fast -- that's another sticking point that I talked about yesterday: not jogging after girls who are walking fast. I need to start doing this too, because so many girls were walking fast today.

Approach:
Even the girl I did approach today was walking fast, so fast that I did a weak-ass stop literally at a 90-degree angle because I didn't do the "front stop". It was a weak approach and I knew it wasn't going anywhere.

These were my issues today:
1. Not jogging to catch up to fast-walking girls and then do the front stop
2. NOT APPROACHING GIRLS WHO WALK INTO STORES

Girls I missed because of current sticking points:
Five girls. I could have approached a total of 6 today if it weren't for these sticking points

What I need to work on:
1. Jog to catch up to fast-walking girls and perform the Front Stop
2. Lower your expectations
3. APPROACH GIRLS WHO WALK INTO STORES

Weekly stats (2/17 - 2/23):
3 approaches


P.S.
I might start giving updates every few days or per week so I don't spam the forum

 

[Mikedee]

Great stuff, really motivating. I’ve been apathetic too, so I get where you're coming from. I totally agree with your point about the antihistamine forum, it's a game, changer. I'm gearing up to start Daygame soon as well. Right now, I’m soaking up as much theory as I can, but I’ll be hitting the field soon. Keep doing your thing, man-you got this!

 

[Mikedee]

antihistamine

Not sure how this got In here but disregard

 

[bkw]

Great stuff, really motivating. I’ve been apathetic too, so I get where you're coming from. I totally agree with your point about the antihistamine forum, it's a game, changer. I'm gearing up to start Daygame soon as well. Right now, I’m soaking up as much theory as I can, but I’ll be hitting the field soon. Keep doing your thing, man-you got this!

Start your Daygame journal if you haven’t already, and I’ll follow. I also find motivation and inspiration in other’s reports

 

[AspiringStoic]

2/19/25 - Approach 1 (DG)

Overview:
Today I had 4 different girls walk into girl shops right before I was about to approach, IN A ROW. I couldn't believe it. After having experienced this a lot this week alone, I'm adding to my goals to approach girls who walk in stores. And it's not like I'm following them for blocks or anything, but it keeps happening within a very short amount of time.

Other than that, early on I passed up a tall Asian girl that was walking fast -- that's another sticking point that I talked about yesterday: not jogging after girls who are walking fast. I need to start doing this too, because so many girls were walking fast today.

Approach:
Even the girl I did approach today was walking fast, so fast that I did a weak-ass stop literally at a 90-degree angle because I didn't do the "front stop". It was a weak approach and I knew it wasn't going anywhere.

These were my issues today:
1. Not jogging to catch up to fast-walking girls and then do the front stop
2. NOT APPROACHING GIRLS WHO WALK INTO STORES

Girls I missed because of current sticking points:
Five girls. I could have approached a total of 6 today if it weren't for these sticking points

What I need to work on:
1. Jog to catch up to fast-walking girls and perform the Front Stop
2. Lower your expectations
3. APPROACH GIRLS WHO WALK INTO STORES

Weekly stats (2/16 - 2/23):
6 approaches
2 #closes


P.S.
I might start giving updates every few days or per week so I don't spam the forum

I have a problem with fast walking girls too. What I started doing was to get in my first 1 or 2 opens on stationary girls at the beginning of every session. I say opens because you don't have to find those girls "attractive enough to approach" just the fact that they are stationary would do. I would stand next to them and just give them a compliment on a piece of clothing or just randomly open with a question like " Are you from Peru by any chance?" "Are you an accountant by any chance?" etc.

Then just follow it up with I just thought you looked it so I was curious. Then let the conversation end or if she is enthusiastic, have a conversation for a while. But its all a warmup.

Only after that, I move on to walking girls.

P.S. So many times the girls I just open for warmup, I suddenly find them attractive once they hook and we are having a good conversation. This made me realize that a lot of the time, the not hot enough to approach is a cleverly disguised form of Approach Anxiety. Once I say to myself this does not count, this is a warmup, suddenly my brain gives me permission to open.

 

[AspiringStoic]

Great stuff, really motivating. I’ve been apathetic too, so I get where you're coming from. I totally agree with your point about the antihistamine forum, it's a game, changer. I'm gearing up to start Daygame soon as well. Right now, I’m soaking up as much theory as I can, but I’ll be hitting the field soon. Keep doing your thing, man-you got this!

Just a word of caution "soaking up theory" is many a times counter productive. Until you are able to go out and say:
"Hey I just saw you and I wanted to come say hi because you looked really nice/pretty/ stylish!"

3-5 times everyday. Or 15+ times a week don't consume any THEORY.

At best it is useless and at worst it will clog your brain and block you and increase your AA. I did this before starting and it was a big mistake.

Read stuff for motivation here but don't learn any theory. Just go out and say that opener a hundred times before you think about anything else.

 

[bkw]

I have a problem with fast walking girls too. What I started doing was to get in my first 1 or 2 opens on stationary girls at the beginning of every session. I say opens because you don't have to find those girls "attractive enough to approach" just the fact that they are stationary would do. I would stand next to them and just give them a compliment on a piece of clothing or just randomly open with a question like " Are you from Peru by any chance?" "Are you an accountant by any chance?" etc.

Then just follow it up with I just thought you looked it so I was curious. Then let the conversation end or if she is enthusiastic, have a conversation for a while. But its all a warmup.

Only after that, I move on to walking girls.

P.S. So many times the girls I just open for warmup, I suddenly find them attractive once they hook and we are having a good conversation. This made me realize that a lot of the time, the not hot enough to approach is a cleverly disguised form of Approach Anxiety. Once I say to myself this does not count, this is a warmup, suddenly my brain gives me permission to open.

This is clever. What ever gets you to start approaching! Torero was also into warm-up sets. I knew a wing once that would converse with everyone, all the time to stay in "state". To me, that felt a little much, but if it works for him then good on him! The "she's too young" excuse is the most common excuse I use and it's so deep that I literally believe it, so perhaps I should try something similar to what you mentioned.

 

[bkw]

2/20/25 - Approach 4 (DG)

Overview:

I would say today I only had one sticking point, and that's the "she's too young" thing, which I'll explain in a bit. Other than that, I feel I did fairly well as I did manage to approach a girl that walked into a girly shop, as I said I would from the last post. I was also pretty unenthused today, so I felt blasé; flat. I'm also starting to feel like maybe I should start doing proper front stops due to girls not stopping.

Approach 1 - Asian girl from London

I see that Asian girl. She stops at the corner of the street on the curb and I approach with my typical opener (I basically use a variation of the same opener all the time, so I'm not going to write what I say, unless it's different). She looked surprised and didn't hook and kind of looked like she wanted to leave, so I didn't push it.

Approach 2 - Girl texting in Soho

I did a weak approach on this girl and basically she said she didn't want to talk. Fair enough.

Approach 3 - Tall Scottish girl in a girl shop

Saw this tall white girl walk past me on the street. It's one of those girls you feel like she's almost out of your league for whatever reason. When I turned around, she proceeded to walk into the same girly shop the other girl walked into yesterday, but because one of my goals today was to approach women who go into stores, I hesitated a second, then went in. I approached her in a tight aisle with a variation of my typical opener. She hooked nicely and smiled and kind of lifted my spirit, if I'm to be honest, as I was feeling flat; like a shot of dopamine or something. She's really nice and asking me questions, so she's contributing nicely. I find out she's from Scotland. She's here visiting her sister until Saturday. After some talking, I ask her if she'd like to grab coffee before she leaves and she does the, "mmmmmmm..." so I know it's basically a "no." All good though. She really only has a couple of days left anyway, and it was a good interaction that I took a lot away from, which I'll speak of more in a moment...

Approach 4 - Briskly walking white girl

I follow this girl for a block as I was looking for a proper spot to open. Finally, I open, but another weak-ass open and she keeps walking at the same speed while I'm standing there hoping she'd stop basically. She hears me and says, "yes, go ahead" or something but I say "never mind" as I just knew it was not going anywhere (hard to explain, but if you were there you'd agree). Not worth plowing through. In fact, I'm not even sure plowing in day game is even something I think is necessary, or something I want to do, personally. Like, if she's not interested, or if my stop was whack and I blow it, then the chances you're going to get a girl in that situation hooked are very low, and who really wants a girl not that into you or the conversation anyway?

MAJOR sticking point (feedback welcome):

Alright, so, this is a sticking point that has always been a confusing sticking point for me. It's the "she's too young" sticking point. Why is it hard for me personally? Because I actually authentically BELIEVE that the girls I see are too young to approach, like I'm too old for them or something. Most likely they are in their early 20s if I were to guess. So this is something I think I need to actively tackle when I feel it. Similarly to how I approached the girl in the girly shop, and then finding a girl who hooked and a great interaction, I likely can find the same if I approach these "too young" girls. I almost feel like I need that reference point right now. It's a big sticking point because the vast majority of the girls I might consider approaching I think this way lately, and if this excuse(?) was gone my approaches would likely double per outing. Therefore, I think I need to make this a big priority on my next outing: "approach girls you think are too young" -- mainly for reference. I think this will help this weird shit going on in my head, which I BELIEVE, that's the issue.

Things I did good:

1. Approached a girl who went into a girl shop. Got a good reference point out of it too. Turned out to be a great interaction.
2. Approaching even though I felt out of it. This is important because I was out of it when I approached the girl in the store and it really turned my mood around and made me feel good to have that interaction. Even more importantly, it shows you can feel flat and good things can still happen.

Goals for next outing:

1. IF YOU THINK SHE'S TOO YOUNG, APPROACH FOR REFERENCE POINTS.
2. Approach girls who walk into shops.
3. Start doing proper front stops on girls who are walking fast.

Weekly stats (2/17 - 2/23):
7 approaches

 

[Mikedee]

I been putting off dg because of the cold weather. Keep up the good work