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The goal of this review as been doing every year is not to have tunnel vision, and tell things that are based on my own projections, but what i am doing is remaining neutral, objective, more like journalist...
I am probably not 100% correct, I am in USA, i am Mainly a nightgamer, In usa in a suburb of South Florida... But in order to put this together, i have ignore my own bias and projections, and to make sure i don't have tunnel vision, i made sure to survey other guys in the field, with the goal of 100% be as accurate as possible...
For example i had one of the best years in the field, but i saw the worst year in night game, so because i had a good year that does not translate in my bias opinion on the review...However, you guys ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO GIVE YOUR OWN OPINION or FINDINGS, i am willing to edit or delete if your argument is strong...
I am going to go all over the place just bullet points...
Some disclaimers.- Inconsistent for me is ratios, you can have a packed clubs with 50 dudes and 15 chongas/hoodrats/trolls that is for me still a bad ratios, they don't count... Consistence is about a third of the club packed with hot women not even half, just 1 out of 5 even....
Inconsistent is not you counting hallowing, new years, spring break, exclusive parties, that only some can sneak in, college/frat parties, traveling, college town, special events (and all of these is welcome and i advice it)... I am talking general night clubs/bars/lounges, online, day game.
Inconsistent is not me and 2 other guys getting laid while 50 guys go home with dick in their hands... I am objective. (for example i did last year better than 2023 and 2022, but imho clubs got worst, cause is not about me... get it!
-Inconsistent is not 3 weekends good 3 bad etc...
- I saw in 2024 the DEATH of the alpha, is now a meme or cringe to be alpha, i blame this on the red pill, fresh and fit, watson, and the rest of the retards... There was a video of a guy teaching how to be alpha when picking up your luggage... Being alpha is fucking cringe a meme...
- Official death and DE platform of fresh and fit,Tate etc... and the rest of the red pill clowns, as well as blackpillers etc... Red pill is going through the post Julian rsd pua decline.
- Death of seduction community, though i saw lets in fighting, more unity, but 0 to no innovation to be honest, people just pretending to come up with stuff that was already created, repeating it water down pretending to be their stuff and coaches without giving credit like they came up with it...
- Seduction community is now more decentralized outside group from telegram, to facebook to wassup to discord vs forums... This is good and not good (you will have guys that can not be moderated no matter what)... I used to be against moderation, but without moderation is bad imho to have these groups...
- I personally saw a slow down in Feminist noise, and movements vs other years was going down after the amber Johnny trial but this is almost dead as well...
- I have NEVER SEEN IN MY LIFE, soooooo many puas moving, traveling, going to other cities as i saw in 2024.... Again i blame this on the decline of night game and dating markets...
- Last year i thought day game was a clear winner, but then i changed my mind day game was a winner cause GUYS WERE TRAVELING, that is not a strong indicator of day game winning... So all games suffered across the board, apps became more competitive, most of you need to pay on dating apps, easy to get shadow ban and go into cock app fest, night game is still inconsistent as fuck and getting worst after last year it was getting better...
- Again about night game declining, i saw BARELY ANY TOURIST, i saw a bunch of festivals being cancelled.... Again i blame the economy...
- Nightgame has suffer tremendously, i have never been soooo many venues closing down, sooo many regulars quitting or barely coming out, so many sausage fests, horrible! inconsistent. I will give you ways around this, but i am talking in general was horrible. I am going to blame it on the economy.
- I saw a strong decline vs 2022 and 2023 from group of gay guys sarging the clubs, i did see more trans in my area coming out but that was inconsistent.(we don't care about this but i am reporting clubs)
- Women coming out inconsistent as i ever seen it in clubs (i know a broken record)....
- I saw a lot more lesbians this year, this was day and night game.... I saw strong surge of women couple holding has and being a couples in day game, specially malls.
- I saw a strong surge in the baggy style, thankfully, though guys are adapting it more, is still a minority 10-15% but i did see and increase in baggy in men...
- Gen z women again a lot into working out, amazing bodies, a lot of mini skirts, jeans and leather, a lot booty shorts or booty joga tight gym short, the gym pants are super thin materal joga style practically is an extra skin, big emphasis on butts aesthetic in the clothing and women and no bras...
- following the above brass are a thing of the past, women wear no brass nipple showing even nipple piercings...
- I saw these year in women fashion a lot of cowboy boots with mini skirts and shorts... A lot (super sexy) and a lot of ankle boots... Though i notice doctor martins slowing down...
- for style i saw more baggy cargo type pants/jeans in men coming up, cropped tshirts and oversized still in (this is due that baggy need for asthetic cropped tops),I saw sleeveless tops on men during the summer, loose jeans, straight legs, baggy, extra baggy in, i would not recommend mega/ultra baggy personally i don't think is aesthetic but anything baggy style in...
- gym, a lot of shorts for men all the way up like the 70s, socks showing all the way to upper calves......
- for women converse still strong and sambas (also for men) and adidas campus
- Lofters were in and NB and retro sneakers and converse.... Any chunky shoes or sneakers ( i think again due to baggy you need chunch due to the large leg opening)
- Style is based more on comfort and the retro 90s. Name brands emphasis stock down more emphasis on comfort and asthetic fit (baggy/new balance/cropped)
- new money or old money or whatever the name is, still works i would put baggy personally above..
- If you are not getting complements from men and women on style, you are doing it wrong (if you get tool is cause even though your style is right, you have not perfected it).. I get complements on my style once a week at least...(took me 6 months to get it right)
- one thing i want to STRONGLY POINT OUT, fashion as traditionally was introduce is GONE, no insta, no magazine.... Fashion is strictly COMMING FROM TIK TOK.... Tik tok dictates fashion and hairstyles...
- Facebook and youtube boomer apps...
- Movie theaters dead.
- There was a strong surge natural game (i am an autist all year long i kept calling natural game - physical game, cause my style of natural game is very physical), i saw a huge decline in technical game and use, i call technical game routine stlye game such as mm, nlp and second gen. (teevester sex talk i called it second gen)
- if you don't know how to properly text you are fucked, cause again you will not be able to lay all girls same night you meet them...
- As i said in many of the reviews that guys don't get, guys are not getting the dick in pussy experience we used to have pre corona and it has been like that for the past 5 years.... Gen z is not getting a lot of dick in pussy experience, today guys have the most about of resources to get laid, but yet, no getting laid... (these is back by real stats)
Also gen z we called in Spanish Generacion cristal translates to glass generation.... Very sensitive gen. i blame this due to lack of social dynamics, dick in pussy experiences, isolation etc... is just a weird gen. full of afc men and women, but super friendly as fuck, which is a contradiction like i said last year.
- following the above, With that being said i find women more friendly from gen Z, hot women will approach more guys with the fundies/style on point, will open you and are just more friendly... Though again for me getting open does not mean shit!
- Virgins and low lay count girls will give it up easy vs previous gens, this was still strong in 2024.
- Gen z women have 2 extremes, hear me out, they ARE WAY MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN ANY OTHER GEN.... You will see girls with extremely low counts, you will see girls that just do serial monogamy, you will see group of girls at clubs practically NAKED IN THE WAY THEY DRESS, and they will go out to clubs in group tits out, butt out, and go home together without hooking up...rinse was repeat...
- But then you have another extreme that is a minority ordering guys and fucking guys like pizza from dating apps, doing sugar baby shit, cheating on their boyfriends, fucking a lot of guys, bi shit, but is a MINORITY, for what i have observe the majority CONSERVATIVE AS FUCK...
- I saw a strong decline in tats (good), for the guys/girls with tats still patch tats is what is in, again due to tiktok...
- Facial hair, no facial hair or the porno mustache (i blame chase for the trend,j/k), but the porno/pedo mustache is in.... Remember guys i still recommend MY OWN BIAS the poverty beard which is what i rock, for those of you that don't give a fuck and still into beards, but a slight adaptation, have your barber use the LOWEST SETTING POSSIBLE, for all parts MINUS THE MUSTACHE AND SOUL PATCH, that i a way around it, and is in...
- Hair styles in modern mullet, fluffy french, messy tapper still in, and a lot of hair on top in general...
-baseball caps still in/ regular hat (sombreros) out.
- hoodies in, specially cropped.
- skinny jeans out, Chelsea's for god sake out, air forces out jesus... Some seducers are doing tight on top baggy bottom with success, i personally recommend baggy just looks better in my opinion...
- A very LEAN LOOK IS BACK, vs packing a lot of muscle, go for a lean look again i highly recommend KINOBODY after trying everything from all fitness influencers...Field test please... is soo easy and effective that i won't stop till you guys try it...
- I saw a weird trend of girls blocking when they were still invested and high interest, a weird form of autorejection (defense mechanism)
- A lot of more sugar dating going on, or pay for play, quick pro quo increasing, and even expected... I never experienced sooooooooo much of this in my life, unbelievableIt feels like you are literally in colombia, you pull a hottie and she ask for money out of the blue, crazy!
- Economy is shit, a lot of puas checking out to eat and work... And is actually legit, no cope, like the copers "let me focus on biz i can't cold approach" no, is actually legit...
- Cold approach is a dying breed... Most guys that i even know were good at it doing more insta and online. same as last year
Some game trends:
- Ignore blocking with invested, interested women read this for context.
- stop worrying soo much about coming across as boyfriend, most guys are not understanding this and causing unnecessary auto rejections..
- be a bit more persistent with gen z without worrying about being needy, they are afc and you may think they are not game, but they are just afc as fuck.
- lots of guys checking out the game with girfriends/wifes (example Karea)
- lots of guys getting older and tired of the grind (i am almost there)
- In this market place the mating market is becoming crazy, you need to have fundamentals, know how to do a to z aspects of seduction, from opening to close almost flawlessly which is again a problem with guys that even though they are trying, learning, grinding, they are not getting those many dick in pussy experiences over than over that help developing into an actual gamer... This mating process was not like this back in the days even if you approach you could have a shot of success with women just by the natural mating process (i know this sounds like mental masturbation but I knew a lot of guys that did not know what they were doing with girlfriends now a days, good luck with this)...
-competition cont. to be none existent for seducers, is actually easier for us to compete.
- Texting style that took me 15 years to convince the community to adopt is now the NORM (and everyone spinning it)... Though minimal banter vs my original block of text in fairness... Text to meet/texting for logistics, outdated and does not work...though some how people till recently still advocating the none sense, jesus crhist!
- Try texting faster.- This one is HUGE, back in the day we advice to match her response time, so if she took an hour to text back you take an hour and 10 minutes at least..... or couple of hours etc...... if she text just text right away back... Don't worry about looking needy just text back right away..
- Girls more likely to use find my friends app. (so you are fucked, fbi work)
- more natural/physical game vs technical game...
- When Verbal's/tech more focus on comfort vs sexual arousal
- higher % of socially awkward girls Gen z are afc as fuck
- girls super sensitive to perceived rejection, don't understand sarcasm, breaking rapport and even teasing may backfire with college crowd. For example back in the day when girls went for make out i would pull back, tease and then pull showing i can kiss, or make out in a sensual way vs sloppy make out after making it work for it.... z gen may autoreject automatically if you do things like this, you need to actually make out.... Weird! but i confirm is not only me happening to a lot of my seducers friends...
- humor is fine, just dumb it down
- Be careful with sarcasm, too cocky, kiss denials again this genz is afc and autistic though social, but they are low self esteem, easy to go into auto rejection...
- ^ kiss denials stop working last 3 years or so.- back in the day we would create sexual tension and pretend we would kiss and tease and pull back, with gen z this stop working last 3 years.... Context cold approach night game mainly USA. Women will auto reject and cut interaction, you are better off making out ..
- lower your reliance on approach invites, i have notice it is on with girls that don't give me anything, MORE THAN PREVIOUS YEARS.- Need to clarify, obviously i still get approach invites, no capitalizing in approach invites is dumb.... What i am saying and pay attention, don't worry as much as in the past on forcing and relying on approach invites, even if she does not give you anything a lot of times is on.... This one is more for night game context specially....
- For God SAKE please forget about coming across as a boyfriend jesus, coming across needy when texting faster, texting when you are blocked or not being proactive when she doesn't respond etc... Women are getting all type of none sense advice from tiktok social media that is the equivalent of red pill for women, you will lose lays...
- More liberal positive views about sex, multiple partners, gay, lesbians, bi, relationship, set ups etc... (i wonder if this is why second gen. drop in use for seduction)
- Again more bi/lesbians than previous years or women being bi curious than ever before..
Solutions ( i still put some that apply from 2024):
- Keep grinding is my solution number 1 you can still get laid and a lot, but you need to be consistent, find a day or 2 preferably no less than 2 to CONSTANTLY SARGE, the excuse of work, running biz etc... is just excuses i am sure you can find some type to consistent sarge i have done and cont. doing it for more than 20 years... (again getting rid of drugs and alcohol help with this)
- Cross game and when you cross game, cross game on the cross game (sounds like a rap).- You need preferably to combine all games, an ideal situation in my opinion is going about your day day game, online/apps when you are in the toilet or waiting in line, night game once or twice a week. But lets say you day game you need to constantly go to different malls or parks or ____ fill in the blank to see how target rich they are... On online/apps at least 4 apps, online is not tinder for fuck sake, tinder is actually in my opinion the worst. IN night game as i have been saying minimum, specially now 3 venues, close to each other walking distance, go out different nights to see the best night aka women actually coming out in your city.
- Travel, go to different cities or areas to game, if you have the means to travel just travel... Puas with most success last year were all traveling in one way or another... Example Allen Iverson..
- move out of usa to a more fucking normal sexual market place (Most guys are doing this)
- If you are a nightgamer try brunches or day game anything party/music such as hotel pool parties... again brunches type stuff, credit dww (though i learned this from primo and talked about it in nextasf), but dww reminded me...
- Diversify with Online, but if you will do online, make sure you just don't do it, cause of shadowbaned, learned it properly before you do it, me and pob did couple of minimalist posts here and here ... Problem with this is i notice people confuse diversify with ONLINE ONLY... Guys get too comfortable, online should be back up and no the MAIN FORM OF GAMING... and if you will do it minimum 3 sources number 1 should be hinge, 2 bumble, tinder last ( geographically dependent)...The more optimized profile in many dating apps the better...Some will only need one cause they are looked maxed, photo max styled max... But if you are reading this THAT IS NOT YOU...
- As much as in the past i advice and kind of still do, against instagram, make sure you have a cool insta just as an insurance, though try going for number, the thing is if you are going to have an insta just make sure does NOT WORK AGAINST YOU, at least neutral no cringe or try hard...
- If you don't have a follow up method (for me texting) good luck getting laid all the time with ons, ons are becoming harder and harder, dtf not coming out as much as back in the days....
- move from a major city to a more favorable sexual market place for example WEst palm (hotter women than Miami and Broward, less competition). In other words move from a major city Miami, to a second or 3 type city (palm beach in my case 3rd type city in south Florida)... This may have also draw backs cause less quantity but more quality, but less male competition. ( I am not competing with professional sports players for example).
- move to a college town, the con is that when school is out, you will not get supply of young women...
- Lock in a girl/girls even if an ok girl vs personal 10 keep her or help her with fixer upper game. While you improve and hunt (i already explain how to do both in different articles, so you monkey branch, reverse hypergamy). This is hard to do though without the experience.
- This is a GEM I DISCOVERED.- For some reason Latin type clubs have not been affected as much by the trends. IN Latin clubs (i don't really like them but) it seems they are stuck in 2010, lol, in other words women are out there, you can find dtfs, etc... it seems latin only clubs, have not change and gotten better cause of the popularity or reggatton which promotes sexual escalation and lack of courtship the 2 problems i always had with latin clubs... This is something i will explore more since that was never my target club, but i seen this.
- PRE-DOING ONLINE, this is something that one of the best guys in this forum doing online taught me(this is verifiable by me).... please do this if not you will be wasting your time.... Go to Photofeeler, AGAIN GO TO PHOTOFEELER... put the settting for the women of your target audience only lets say 18-34, can only vote, we don't give a shit about dudes voting... Unless you get 8 or above on your pics, YOU WILL NOT UPLOAD ON TINDER ETC... This is the way around shadow banned.... If you already have a tinder, do this and get a new cheap phone or account, so you don't get shadow banned.... What is shadow banned when the syster thinks you are a 5 and just show you 5s and below women or no women or matches.... Again apps is not tinder, minimum 4, tinder, hinge, bumble, and pic another one such as fetlife, coffee met bagels, okkupid/pof (if you are older gen z)...
- Fundamentals have to be on point all the time is saddens me that in clubs i dress better and even in the seduction community of dudes less than half my age...- Try to go out of comfort zone with fundamentals.... ... it saddens me that guys don't update to current styles of clothing... How pathetic it is that even most seducers, don't fucking know how to dress, jesus christ!
There are from @DoWhatWorks from last year still apply:
"Going to areas with multiple venues close by is still the fail safe method. You can still get good/busy nights but the trend of winner takes all in nightgame continues. I've found some new good places with favorable ratios and the way I found it was:
1. Trial and error (lucky to have a wing who goes out a lot so I basically outsourced this lol)
2. Asking attractive girls what places they like to go (Topcat recommended this to me, feel v stupid didn't think of it myself)
3. "Events" are becoming more important than the venue. Venues often host different "nights" e.g. R&B night Friday, then Jazz Saturdays. When you understand the music, demographic & ratios of different events you can better time your visit and have more consistent good nights.
There are also "events" which pop up in different locations and don't have a consistent "base". I think because of the economy these type of nights will increase because it allows organizers to make money without having consistent building costs by only renting as they need it.
4. Instagram - find the "cool" events that girls are following/commenting below asking their friends if they want to go. They're surprisingly cheap & tend to be cute looking or laid back grungy"
Videos must watch for context on the above:
I am probably not 100% correct, I am in USA, i am Mainly a nightgamer, In usa in a suburb of South Florida... But in order to put this together, i have ignore my own bias and projections, and to make sure i don't have tunnel vision, i made sure to survey other guys in the field, with the goal of 100% be as accurate as possible...
For example i had one of the best years in the field, but i saw the worst year in night game, so because i had a good year that does not translate in my bias opinion on the review...However, you guys ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO GIVE YOUR OWN OPINION or FINDINGS, i am willing to edit or delete if your argument is strong...
I am going to go all over the place just bullet points...
Some disclaimers.- Inconsistent for me is ratios, you can have a packed clubs with 50 dudes and 15 chongas/hoodrats/trolls that is for me still a bad ratios, they don't count... Consistence is about a third of the club packed with hot women not even half, just 1 out of 5 even....
Inconsistent is not you counting hallowing, new years, spring break, exclusive parties, that only some can sneak in, college/frat parties, traveling, college town, special events (and all of these is welcome and i advice it)... I am talking general night clubs/bars/lounges, online, day game.
Inconsistent is not me and 2 other guys getting laid while 50 guys go home with dick in their hands... I am objective. (for example i did last year better than 2023 and 2022, but imho clubs got worst, cause is not about me... get it!
-Inconsistent is not 3 weekends good 3 bad etc...
- I saw in 2024 the DEATH of the alpha, is now a meme or cringe to be alpha, i blame this on the red pill, fresh and fit, watson, and the rest of the retards... There was a video of a guy teaching how to be alpha when picking up your luggage... Being alpha is fucking cringe a meme...
- Official death and DE platform of fresh and fit,Tate etc... and the rest of the red pill clowns, as well as blackpillers etc... Red pill is going through the post Julian rsd pua decline.
- Death of seduction community, though i saw lets in fighting, more unity, but 0 to no innovation to be honest, people just pretending to come up with stuff that was already created, repeating it water down pretending to be their stuff and coaches without giving credit like they came up with it...
- Seduction community is now more decentralized outside group from telegram, to facebook to wassup to discord vs forums... This is good and not good (you will have guys that can not be moderated no matter what)... I used to be against moderation, but without moderation is bad imho to have these groups...
- I personally saw a slow down in Feminist noise, and movements vs other years was going down after the amber Johnny trial but this is almost dead as well...
- I have NEVER SEEN IN MY LIFE, soooooo many puas moving, traveling, going to other cities as i saw in 2024.... Again i blame this on the decline of night game and dating markets...
- Last year i thought day game was a clear winner, but then i changed my mind day game was a winner cause GUYS WERE TRAVELING, that is not a strong indicator of day game winning... So all games suffered across the board, apps became more competitive, most of you need to pay on dating apps, easy to get shadow ban and go into cock app fest, night game is still inconsistent as fuck and getting worst after last year it was getting better...
- Again about night game declining, i saw BARELY ANY TOURIST, i saw a bunch of festivals being cancelled.... Again i blame the economy...
- Nightgame has suffer tremendously, i have never been soooo many venues closing down, sooo many regulars quitting or barely coming out, so many sausage fests, horrible! inconsistent. I will give you ways around this, but i am talking in general was horrible. I am going to blame it on the economy.
- I saw a strong decline vs 2022 and 2023 from group of gay guys sarging the clubs, i did see more trans in my area coming out but that was inconsistent.(we don't care about this but i am reporting clubs)
- Women coming out inconsistent as i ever seen it in clubs (i know a broken record)....
- I saw a lot more lesbians this year, this was day and night game.... I saw strong surge of women couple holding has and being a couples in day game, specially malls.
- I saw a strong surge in the baggy style, thankfully, though guys are adapting it more, is still a minority 10-15% but i did see and increase in baggy in men...
- Gen z women again a lot into working out, amazing bodies, a lot of mini skirts, jeans and leather, a lot booty shorts or booty joga tight gym short, the gym pants are super thin materal joga style practically is an extra skin, big emphasis on butts aesthetic in the clothing and women and no bras...
- following the above brass are a thing of the past, women wear no brass nipple showing even nipple piercings...
- I saw these year in women fashion a lot of cowboy boots with mini skirts and shorts... A lot (super sexy) and a lot of ankle boots... Though i notice doctor martins slowing down...
- for style i saw more baggy cargo type pants/jeans in men coming up, cropped tshirts and oversized still in (this is due that baggy need for asthetic cropped tops),I saw sleeveless tops on men during the summer, loose jeans, straight legs, baggy, extra baggy in, i would not recommend mega/ultra baggy personally i don't think is aesthetic but anything baggy style in...
- gym, a lot of shorts for men all the way up like the 70s, socks showing all the way to upper calves......
- for women converse still strong and sambas (also for men) and adidas campus
- Lofters were in and NB and retro sneakers and converse.... Any chunky shoes or sneakers ( i think again due to baggy you need chunch due to the large leg opening)
- Style is based more on comfort and the retro 90s. Name brands emphasis stock down more emphasis on comfort and asthetic fit (baggy/new balance/cropped)
- new money or old money or whatever the name is, still works i would put baggy personally above..
- If you are not getting complements from men and women on style, you are doing it wrong (if you get tool is cause even though your style is right, you have not perfected it).. I get complements on my style once a week at least...(took me 6 months to get it right)
- one thing i want to STRONGLY POINT OUT, fashion as traditionally was introduce is GONE, no insta, no magazine.... Fashion is strictly COMMING FROM TIK TOK.... Tik tok dictates fashion and hairstyles...
- Facebook and youtube boomer apps...
- Movie theaters dead.
- There was a strong surge natural game (i am an autist all year long i kept calling natural game - physical game, cause my style of natural game is very physical), i saw a huge decline in technical game and use, i call technical game routine stlye game such as mm, nlp and second gen. (teevester sex talk i called it second gen)
- if you don't know how to properly text you are fucked, cause again you will not be able to lay all girls same night you meet them...
- As i said in many of the reviews that guys don't get, guys are not getting the dick in pussy experience we used to have pre corona and it has been like that for the past 5 years.... Gen z is not getting a lot of dick in pussy experience, today guys have the most about of resources to get laid, but yet, no getting laid... (these is back by real stats)
Also gen z we called in Spanish Generacion cristal translates to glass generation.... Very sensitive gen. i blame this due to lack of social dynamics, dick in pussy experiences, isolation etc... is just a weird gen. full of afc men and women, but super friendly as fuck, which is a contradiction like i said last year.
- following the above, With that being said i find women more friendly from gen Z, hot women will approach more guys with the fundies/style on point, will open you and are just more friendly... Though again for me getting open does not mean shit!
- Virgins and low lay count girls will give it up easy vs previous gens, this was still strong in 2024.
- Gen z women have 2 extremes, hear me out, they ARE WAY MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN ANY OTHER GEN.... You will see girls with extremely low counts, you will see girls that just do serial monogamy, you will see group of girls at clubs practically NAKED IN THE WAY THEY DRESS, and they will go out to clubs in group tits out, butt out, and go home together without hooking up...rinse was repeat...
- But then you have another extreme that is a minority ordering guys and fucking guys like pizza from dating apps, doing sugar baby shit, cheating on their boyfriends, fucking a lot of guys, bi shit, but is a MINORITY, for what i have observe the majority CONSERVATIVE AS FUCK...
- I saw a strong decline in tats (good), for the guys/girls with tats still patch tats is what is in, again due to tiktok...
- Facial hair, no facial hair or the porno mustache (i blame chase for the trend,j/k), but the porno/pedo mustache is in.... Remember guys i still recommend MY OWN BIAS the poverty beard which is what i rock, for those of you that don't give a fuck and still into beards, but a slight adaptation, have your barber use the LOWEST SETTING POSSIBLE, for all parts MINUS THE MUSTACHE AND SOUL PATCH, that i a way around it, and is in...
- Hair styles in modern mullet, fluffy french, messy tapper still in, and a lot of hair on top in general...
-baseball caps still in/ regular hat (sombreros) out.
- hoodies in, specially cropped.
- skinny jeans out, Chelsea's for god sake out, air forces out jesus... Some seducers are doing tight on top baggy bottom with success, i personally recommend baggy just looks better in my opinion...
- A very LEAN LOOK IS BACK, vs packing a lot of muscle, go for a lean look again i highly recommend KINOBODY after trying everything from all fitness influencers...Field test please... is soo easy and effective that i won't stop till you guys try it...
- I saw a weird trend of girls blocking when they were still invested and high interest, a weird form of autorejection (defense mechanism)
- A lot of more sugar dating going on, or pay for play, quick pro quo increasing, and even expected... I never experienced sooooooooo much of this in my life, unbelievableIt feels like you are literally in colombia, you pull a hottie and she ask for money out of the blue, crazy!
- Economy is shit, a lot of puas checking out to eat and work... And is actually legit, no cope, like the copers "let me focus on biz i can't cold approach" no, is actually legit...
- Cold approach is a dying breed... Most guys that i even know were good at it doing more insta and online. same as last year
Some game trends:
- Ignore blocking with invested, interested women read this for context.
- stop worrying soo much about coming across as boyfriend, most guys are not understanding this and causing unnecessary auto rejections..
- be a bit more persistent with gen z without worrying about being needy, they are afc and you may think they are not game, but they are just afc as fuck.
- lots of guys checking out the game with girfriends/wifes (example Karea)
- lots of guys getting older and tired of the grind (i am almost there)
- In this market place the mating market is becoming crazy, you need to have fundamentals, know how to do a to z aspects of seduction, from opening to close almost flawlessly which is again a problem with guys that even though they are trying, learning, grinding, they are not getting those many dick in pussy experiences over than over that help developing into an actual gamer... This mating process was not like this back in the days even if you approach you could have a shot of success with women just by the natural mating process (i know this sounds like mental masturbation but I knew a lot of guys that did not know what they were doing with girlfriends now a days, good luck with this)...
-competition cont. to be none existent for seducers, is actually easier for us to compete.
- Texting style that took me 15 years to convince the community to adopt is now the NORM (and everyone spinning it)... Though minimal banter vs my original block of text in fairness... Text to meet/texting for logistics, outdated and does not work...though some how people till recently still advocating the none sense, jesus crhist!
- Try texting faster.- This one is HUGE, back in the day we advice to match her response time, so if she took an hour to text back you take an hour and 10 minutes at least..... or couple of hours etc...... if she text just text right away back... Don't worry about looking needy just text back right away..
- Girls more likely to use find my friends app. (so you are fucked, fbi work)
- more natural/physical game vs technical game...
- When Verbal's/tech more focus on comfort vs sexual arousal
- higher % of socially awkward girls Gen z are afc as fuck
- girls super sensitive to perceived rejection, don't understand sarcasm, breaking rapport and even teasing may backfire with college crowd. For example back in the day when girls went for make out i would pull back, tease and then pull showing i can kiss, or make out in a sensual way vs sloppy make out after making it work for it.... z gen may autoreject automatically if you do things like this, you need to actually make out.... Weird! but i confirm is not only me happening to a lot of my seducers friends...
- humor is fine, just dumb it down
- Be careful with sarcasm, too cocky, kiss denials again this genz is afc and autistic though social, but they are low self esteem, easy to go into auto rejection...
- ^ kiss denials stop working last 3 years or so.- back in the day we would create sexual tension and pretend we would kiss and tease and pull back, with gen z this stop working last 3 years.... Context cold approach night game mainly USA. Women will auto reject and cut interaction, you are better off making out ..
- lower your reliance on approach invites, i have notice it is on with girls that don't give me anything, MORE THAN PREVIOUS YEARS.- Need to clarify, obviously i still get approach invites, no capitalizing in approach invites is dumb.... What i am saying and pay attention, don't worry as much as in the past on forcing and relying on approach invites, even if she does not give you anything a lot of times is on.... This one is more for night game context specially....
- For God SAKE please forget about coming across as a boyfriend jesus, coming across needy when texting faster, texting when you are blocked or not being proactive when she doesn't respond etc... Women are getting all type of none sense advice from tiktok social media that is the equivalent of red pill for women, you will lose lays...
- More liberal positive views about sex, multiple partners, gay, lesbians, bi, relationship, set ups etc... (i wonder if this is why second gen. drop in use for seduction)
- Again more bi/lesbians than previous years or women being bi curious than ever before..
Solutions ( i still put some that apply from 2024):
- Keep grinding is my solution number 1 you can still get laid and a lot, but you need to be consistent, find a day or 2 preferably no less than 2 to CONSTANTLY SARGE, the excuse of work, running biz etc... is just excuses i am sure you can find some type to consistent sarge i have done and cont. doing it for more than 20 years... (again getting rid of drugs and alcohol help with this)
- Cross game and when you cross game, cross game on the cross game (sounds like a rap).- You need preferably to combine all games, an ideal situation in my opinion is going about your day day game, online/apps when you are in the toilet or waiting in line, night game once or twice a week. But lets say you day game you need to constantly go to different malls or parks or ____ fill in the blank to see how target rich they are... On online/apps at least 4 apps, online is not tinder for fuck sake, tinder is actually in my opinion the worst. IN night game as i have been saying minimum, specially now 3 venues, close to each other walking distance, go out different nights to see the best night aka women actually coming out in your city.
- Travel, go to different cities or areas to game, if you have the means to travel just travel... Puas with most success last year were all traveling in one way or another... Example Allen Iverson..
- move out of usa to a more fucking normal sexual market place (Most guys are doing this)
- If you are a nightgamer try brunches or day game anything party/music such as hotel pool parties... again brunches type stuff, credit dww (though i learned this from primo and talked about it in nextasf), but dww reminded me...
- Diversify with Online, but if you will do online, make sure you just don't do it, cause of shadowbaned, learned it properly before you do it, me and pob did couple of minimalist posts here and here ... Problem with this is i notice people confuse diversify with ONLINE ONLY... Guys get too comfortable, online should be back up and no the MAIN FORM OF GAMING... and if you will do it minimum 3 sources number 1 should be hinge, 2 bumble, tinder last ( geographically dependent)...The more optimized profile in many dating apps the better...Some will only need one cause they are looked maxed, photo max styled max... But if you are reading this THAT IS NOT YOU...
- As much as in the past i advice and kind of still do, against instagram, make sure you have a cool insta just as an insurance, though try going for number, the thing is if you are going to have an insta just make sure does NOT WORK AGAINST YOU, at least neutral no cringe or try hard...
- If you don't have a follow up method (for me texting) good luck getting laid all the time with ons, ons are becoming harder and harder, dtf not coming out as much as back in the days....
- move from a major city to a more favorable sexual market place for example WEst palm (hotter women than Miami and Broward, less competition). In other words move from a major city Miami, to a second or 3 type city (palm beach in my case 3rd type city in south Florida)... This may have also draw backs cause less quantity but more quality, but less male competition. ( I am not competing with professional sports players for example).
- move to a college town, the con is that when school is out, you will not get supply of young women...
- Lock in a girl/girls even if an ok girl vs personal 10 keep her or help her with fixer upper game. While you improve and hunt (i already explain how to do both in different articles, so you monkey branch, reverse hypergamy). This is hard to do though without the experience.
- This is a GEM I DISCOVERED.- For some reason Latin type clubs have not been affected as much by the trends. IN Latin clubs (i don't really like them but) it seems they are stuck in 2010, lol, in other words women are out there, you can find dtfs, etc... it seems latin only clubs, have not change and gotten better cause of the popularity or reggatton which promotes sexual escalation and lack of courtship the 2 problems i always had with latin clubs... This is something i will explore more since that was never my target club, but i seen this.
- PRE-DOING ONLINE, this is something that one of the best guys in this forum doing online taught me(this is verifiable by me).... please do this if not you will be wasting your time.... Go to Photofeeler, AGAIN GO TO PHOTOFEELER... put the settting for the women of your target audience only lets say 18-34, can only vote, we don't give a shit about dudes voting... Unless you get 8 or above on your pics, YOU WILL NOT UPLOAD ON TINDER ETC... This is the way around shadow banned.... If you already have a tinder, do this and get a new cheap phone or account, so you don't get shadow banned.... What is shadow banned when the syster thinks you are a 5 and just show you 5s and below women or no women or matches.... Again apps is not tinder, minimum 4, tinder, hinge, bumble, and pic another one such as fetlife, coffee met bagels, okkupid/pof (if you are older gen z)...
- Fundamentals have to be on point all the time is saddens me that in clubs i dress better and even in the seduction community of dudes less than half my age...- Try to go out of comfort zone with fundamentals.... ... it saddens me that guys don't update to current styles of clothing... How pathetic it is that even most seducers, don't fucking know how to dress, jesus christ!
There are from @DoWhatWorks from last year still apply:
"Going to areas with multiple venues close by is still the fail safe method. You can still get good/busy nights but the trend of winner takes all in nightgame continues. I've found some new good places with favorable ratios and the way I found it was:
1. Trial and error (lucky to have a wing who goes out a lot so I basically outsourced this lol)
2. Asking attractive girls what places they like to go (Topcat recommended this to me, feel v stupid didn't think of it myself)
3. "Events" are becoming more important than the venue. Venues often host different "nights" e.g. R&B night Friday, then Jazz Saturdays. When you understand the music, demographic & ratios of different events you can better time your visit and have more consistent good nights.
There are also "events" which pop up in different locations and don't have a consistent "base". I think because of the economy these type of nights will increase because it allows organizers to make money without having consistent building costs by only renting as they need it.
4. Instagram - find the "cool" events that girls are following/commenting below asking their friends if they want to go. They're surprisingly cheap & tend to be cute looking or laid back grungy"
Videos must watch for context on the above:
