Nice Guy Game

[purplejesus]

Hey guys, first time poster long time lurker
I've just started getting into game and have been doing daygame consistently for 2 months. Today I came to the horrible realization that I have 'nice guy game' and I want to change it.

Backstory, I opened this set, spoke to her a bit and she left. There was a dude who saw me open and started complimenting me. He started telling me how he'd
been gaming on and off for a couple of years. We then did a 2 set together. I opened and he came in afterward. This is when I had my epiphany. He absolutely destroyed the set. He was being a complete dick to them. Asking them shit, then not caring about their answers and rapidly going from one topic to another but in a 'wild' way. He was in control. He had great vibe, was confident, and was entertaining himself. He truly did not give a fuck. He spoke loudly. Yelled in their faces. Teased them so well, they were qualifying like crazy. They loved it. They started saying how mean he was and thats when I knew he was on to something.
In my nice guy game I've never experienced something like this. In nice guy game the conversations are always so forced and non emotional. Almost like you're talking to an acquaintance. (at least at times for me). It feels like there's a barrier; and if you successfully overcome it, her emotional side will show and you can amp it up.

My game has too much of a 'nice guy' vibe to it. Even when I think im being loud and commanding I'm really still being the nice guy. Even the teases dont get to them because it has too much of a nice guy vibe. I notice im too quiet, too polite, and very stiff with my body language. Its difficult to change my vibe, and really my lifelong nice guy habits.

So the question for everyone: How do you get rid of nice guy game? Has anyone ever overcome nice guy game, or certain nice guy tendencies like talking too quietly or having an unconfident vibe? Any advice or experiences would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Smith]

Be honestly yourself. You're afraid of rejection. Say what you want to say and enjoy expressing yourself with your body language, tonality...etc. Be expressive. You're blocking yourself with your fear of rejection, fear of judgement...etc. You know that great vibe you have when you talk to your close friends, family members...etc. Figure out how to tap into that when you're talking to a girl. You already have that kind of personality, but somehow when you're talking to girls, you're afraid to show it.

 

[Fuck This]

You can be a nice guy if you exhibit strong leadership. Not being loud and demanding, but doing what you want. You can tell someone nicely you are buying them a drink..."But next round is on you.." And they will scramble to be sure to uphold their end of the bargain. Overhear the group talking about going to another place? Roll in and say "I'm headed to XYZ (the place they were talking about). Let's go." It is always easier to lead someone where they think they might want to go.

Occasionally deviate from the group..."Hey I'm gonna head over to ABC, I'll catch you guys later." Show you aren't afraid to go out on your own.

Let women EARN your niceness. If you can compliment them while in in a conversation with someone else, it really perks them up. "See Julie here? Now she really knows how to dance salsa. C'mon Julie, let's show 'em how it's done. " Julie needs to be there and hear it...plus she feels she has to live up to the compliment...

 

[purplejesus]

Good advice guys.
I went out today and literally stopped caring about any outcome. I just said whatever seemed cool or entertaining to me. I believe this is called amused mastery. For anyone that is stuck in nice guy mode during sets, I highly urge you to read up on amused mastery. This substantially improved my game because I wasn't saying stuff to get them to like me, I was saying stuff that made me have fun. I was honest with myself.
As a result, my vibe improved. I didn't seem too try-hard. I was coming from a place of personal confidence and self assurance instead of from a place of "oh i hope you like me". This felt good. I was even able to kino more easily and get them to comply. I felt dominant. I tried not to give a fuck. More of my personality came out and I naturally had more things to talk about. Powerful stuff. If anyone is stuck on this, ask yourself 'what place am I coming from?', 'am I coming from a place of neediness (oh please like me!) or a place of self assurance and confidence?'

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

Most successful guys I know are super nice, don't say a lot, and only tease minorly. It's something that will come with time. Sounds like you need to be more of an asshole right meow

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