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Railer

Cro-Magnon Man
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Sortie 27

Code:
Objectives: chill at a party

Plan of action: just enjoy time socializing

Exfil: home

Chats-Details: 4-3

Overall CDC: 87-40-1 (chat-details-close)

Realization: no pickup-rules are set in stone

Spend time chatting with the bouncer. Relieved to find that none of the girls entering seems to be my type. It’s an older crowd.

{1} Later notice one I like. 21. Friend informs me that she’s there to work. Loose interest. Start seeing pretty much every other girl through same lens. Open her at some point as we’re dancing, but cannot get motivated for more. My friend would later say that she had asked about me and send me her number. Messaging I would make it clear that I’m not a potential customer. Regardless she’d briefly show at a bar I was at, but leave quickly due to having other plans.

{2} Under influence, join another who’s sitting. Talk and talk and even get her to laugh out loud several times. For practice, try to get the number, but she hints at some bad experiences. Ends up showing me her Instagram. Ask if she’s free to depart after the party or under obligation. Says she came in a group so she’d leave with it too.

{3} Chat with another 2-set that I’m on the fence about, but know that I’m not too interested.

{4} Suddenly develop strong desires for a babe my friend brought. Judging by her revealing outfit, think she must be working too. Friend denies. Says she’s just crazy as-is. The entire night she’s looking at me every time she passes. Loose count on how often I melt when she flashes the white of her eyes. Later she’d point out she doesn’t like being touched. To my "What am I supposed to do with you?" she responds Nothing. Finally decide to let it go. Find rest on the couch in another room.

Convinced I could get her, my friend would later also send me this girl’s number. I’d never contact her.

Intel
  • Even if I know - or rather, suspect - that a girl might be out for prostitution, I can still game her for fun.
  • Sober me would look to get the girl to talk instead. I will talk more freely about myself and see how girls in other encounters respond.
  • The dynamic with the babe was weird. I felt literally attached. Strangely, she didn’t seem at all intimidated by my constant staring … and for quite some time after, I considered the possibility of her being interested, regardless of everything. I’ll keep her in mind for a day I feel some drive.
  • After all, in neither of the longer interactions I thought of game or trying to figure out how I could make something happen. And it felt okay.
 
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Railer

Cro-Magnon Man
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Sortie 28

Code:
Objectives: enjoy the night passively

Plan of action: abstain from hitting on girls

Exfil: home

Chats-Details: 4-2

Overall CDC: 91-42-1 (chat-details-close)

Result: frustrated that I still haven't figured out the dynamics

Chill on the couch in the VIP. New friend points out that he wants to get girls. Indicate that personally I’m still processing another thing, but will wing him on anything he needs.

There seems to be mutual interest between me and one girl in the group in front of us, but first want to help my friend get that one blonde. They end up exchanging details. "My" set meanwhile abandoned the scene as expected.

To say "hi", girl 26-6 kisses me on the cheek, but it feels courteous. My heart tears a little every time I notice her in my field of view. The day after she would have unfollowed me on IG.

{1} Ask another tiny girl her height. 152 / 5’. "Love it!" Doesn’t react much to the compliment. Realize no girl ever does. Consider the possibility of small girls getting that a lot - from guys who are into it. Ask her. Denies. Says she isn’t told that usually.

Notice a message from 26-9, excitedly asking if I am at the club.

The very second a stunner overtly touches me as she passes, friend finds me to help with a billing-issue. WTF coincidences.

{2} Towards the end of the night, can’t resist. Try with a cute slim girl. Get mostly ignored.

{3} Invite another girl in red top - all boobs - to the table. Is heavily drunk and cannot really be locked in. Leaves me with her IG.

{4} Ask two girls outside if they’ve seen my friend. Can tell one’s into me. End up sharing their Uber. We almost kiss at the goodbye. Walking off, realize that I failed the chance to persist. She’d immediately respond to my "cool"-smiley with three kissing ones.

Intel
  • The "other thing" is a - painful - story possibly upcoming in Unexpected Opportunities.
  • Introducing my buddy hooked the set really well. Standing tall I asked the girl in my proximity for the target-girl’s name and that I wanted her to get know my friend. Reminded me of how my other friend introduced me to the two blondes in S-26. Will apply this often - great under-the-radar way.
  • Starting out winging I kind of forgot about the initial objective. But what if 22-6 was actually somehow on the fence, waiting for me to make a move? (But why not respond to my messages then?) Instead of taking it badly, I’ll try to take such instants as chances to invite a drink. I cannot be certain her kiss was just out of courtesy. Why go and unfollow the day after if it’s not to send a signal?
  • If the reason the compliment doesn’t land well is not that those girls get it a lot, then it’s probably them not taking it seriously or even taking it offensively. I will either ditch it altogether or ground it accordingly.
  • So the blonde is into me enough to text me in the club, but ignores texts. How about that?
  • Something is still off about my approaches. I get it: Not all girls may be into me. But the percentage of approaches going stale doesn’t add up.
  • If I had found her on IG, the idea would have been to follow red top only a couple of days delayed - in order to stand apart from the other guys who’d follow her on Sunday. Next time.
  • In the moment I was proud of me, perceiving that the girl was interested, but now I think it plays against me: If I don’t get that feeling, I might discard too easily as not-interested. I’ll keep the thought present that my perception is off - to my own disadvantage.
  • With her friend wanting to go straight home I gave up too quickly on my invite to my place. I often get this feeling of urgency - but it was morning, in front of their accommodation - there’s really no urgency to leave them alone. Next time, remember to insist.
  • I didn’t follow up much with the girl. Since nothing I texted this year ever worked I’m resigned.
  • 1% lay rate is depressing.
 

Railer

Cro-Magnon Man
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Sortie 29

Code:
Objectives: just take up friends on their invitation and socialize

Plan of action: club with friends

Chats-Details: 1-0

Overall CDC: 92-42-1 (chat-details-close)

Realization: sometimes I should just go indirect

{1} Totally uneasy, cannot even carry a conversation with the sexy girl who chats me up. Finds another guy.

Adjacent table has many girls too. Cannot figure out how to get to the one cute girl I’m curious about. Ends up with the guy in their group.

Intel
  • Go indirect. I was only rehearsing direct strategies while I could have easily opened any girl in the group to then transition to the others.
  • To be honest, I wasn’t excited too much about any of the girls around.
 

Railer

Cro-Magnon Man
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Sortie 30

Code:
Objectives: accept my friend's invitation to the bar

Plan of action: just chat and enjoy the time with him

Chats-Details: 6-2

Overall CDC: 97-44-1 (chat-details-close)

Realization: bumps are far fewer times on accident than I thought

Unexpectedly run into girl I love. Vibe’s weird. Takes me almost an hour to recover.

{1} Girl-friend helps me to open the most gorgeous blonde. Then lose sight. See another guy on her. Pass. Say her name out loudly. Tell her to find me outside when she finishes here.

Feel distressed. After yet another hour decide to socialize with other people around.

{2} Lose interest in a tiny dark haired girl. {3} Highly produced small blonde doesn’t bite to my slow-opener. Have new guy from group join me.

Then actually get to reopen the gorgeous blonde and grab her number.

{4} A busty blonde excuses herself for stepping on my toes: "You did that on purpose so as to get to talk to me ;)" Walk off. Turn back. Reach out my hand: "When I return, you’ll actually have to talk to me." Launch into conversation right away. Asks me how I had known she had actually stepped on me on purpose. I hadn’t. Seed the idea of taking her home. Is down for sex, but all I want is the blonde. Grab her number.

Invite the gorgeous blonde to go to my place. Keep insisting as she defers to meet another day, defers decision to her friend, friend defers decision to her. Suddenly leaves the venue. Seems lost.

Is back later. Give her some space. See her leaving. Run after: "Wanted to say good bye." Then lauch into conversation. Together with the new friend accompany her and her friend to their place before returning to the venue.

{5}{6} Open one last set, then catch up with a ~4M-2F to open the sexy girl who had given me strong eye contact. Says she recognizes me from another night.

Intel
  • Take things more chill.
  • Get the friend’s number to make her my friend … to have my back in the seduction.
  • Consider any and all bumps intentional.
  • Got to talk to all girls I was curious about. Nice.
 

Railer

Cro-Magnon Man
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Sortie 31

Code:
Objectives: find yesterday's blonde or maybe even 26-6

Plan of action: check if any friends are around

Chats-Details: 2-1

Overall CDC: 99-45-1 (chat-details-close)

Realization: as long as she stays around for it - persist!

{1} Girl in 2M-2F outside the cab gives me strong eye contact as I pay. Chat up the group. States having a boyfriend. Gives me "her professional number". Would later notice the profile picture showing a restaurant’s logo and feel uneasy about texting there.

{2} Inside, chat up a bright-eyed beauty. Reacts merely polite.

Find the most gorgeous girl is walking in front of me. It’s her! The girl I came for; Invite her to join me with some friends I just encountered. Resistance. Like the day before, keeps staring past my shoulder, as if lost in her mind. Give up and let her go.

Find her being talked to by some cute boy. Pass and ask for her friend. Says she’s somewhere in front of the stage. Figure she’s unlikely to spot.

Venue is packed with ~19yo beauties. Feel foreign. Take the opportunity to ride home with friends.

Intel
  • Not accepting IG’s anymore is relaxing.
  • Persist! I had her right there, but let her slip.
  • Help her know what she wants. Tell her she’s beautiful, I’m handsome - us being together just makes sense!
  • Tell her the real reason I’m there for: Her.
  • Get the friend’s number.
 
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Railer

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Can you give the full context about that?

The girl, though eye-balling all along, was hesitant to hand me her number.

The group was gathered around the hood. When she went inside the car to grab something, I tried to catch up there, but she quickly returned.

So I asked her with everyone around.

She offered her IG.

The relaxing part is that I’m going either for some means of personal communication or nothing.

Being less flexible helps me stay focussed on the objective. Plus, the girl knows that, without means of locating her she’s loosing me for sure - regardless of how great she may be.

So, basically I agree with Biggus Dickus xD, except that I won’t resort to IG.

Besides, whatever impression "my" Instagram shows, it’s going to be lacking on every end. Read: It’s going to be totally wrong - and so will be any conclusions she draws from it.

Providing impressions of my life just like that, for free, is draining power. If she wants to get to know me, the least thing I expect from her is to ask.

The platform as such is cringe - not only when guys simp over hotties they follow as if some day those would magically end up in their lap.

WhatsApp say they’re encrypted. Maybe fewer admins get to stalk my shit there.
 

Railer

Cro-Magnon Man
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Sortie 32

Code:
Objectives: enjoy one last night out

Plan of action: hit the usual clubs

Exfil: home

Chats-Details: 3-3

Overall CDC: 102-48-1 (chat-details-close)

Realization: lack of sexual drive seems to cause weird vibes for girls

Girl my friend takes home every once in a while is there. Get her number, just in case. Had previously offered me to present me her younger sister, who she happens to be out with tonight, accompanied by two more guys.

{1} Attempting to even normally talk to the sister, already seems too much for her and chases her away.

Withdraw my attention, have fun dancing, and resort to mocking her every once in a while which gets her laughing and loosen up a bit.

Notice myself looking at girls in a more assertive manner. One seems to be curiously returning my gaze, but does not comply when I wave her over to our group.

{2} Two girls make their way to our corner of the dance floor: Perfectly-tied hair, sparkling earrings, white sweater, classy miniskirt and beautiful face catch my attention.

Steps on my toes. Denies that it was on purpose. Every once in a while, I throw something out, but she seems reluctant.

At one point, friend leaves her, dancing alone right in front of me. Sweater is off now.

Touch her naked back to carefully pull her a little closer. Causes her to take a few steps away and dance over there.

Turn around and enjoy the view looking the other way. Soon, she’s back again. Still responding with minimal effort though. Confirm my guess, saying that she had seriously considered studying medicine, but ended up in psychology instead.

Point out that, if everything fails, she could still become a fashion designer, given her good taste. Says she had considered that too already.

When again with her friend over at the other corner, decide to let it go.

Walk over. Announce that I’m here to say goodbye.

Turn away. Turn back again. Tell her that, some girl-friends and I plan to on doing some outings upon my return to the country, to which she would be welcome too. Agrees.

Transition to take her details. Utters something that sounds like an attempt to withdraw from giving them. Ends up giving me her number anyway. Ask if she was single. Seems a bit coy about the question.

{3} Outside, see one blonde sitting alone on the couch. Stop next to her: "And you?" Exchange a few words. Ask her to slide over to make space. Chat. Invite her to my place. Prefers to stay, but reminds me several times to write her a message so she could get my contact details.

Neither of the two girls would respond to my ice-breaker the next day.

Intel
  • Maybe the girls reaction wasn’t so much about me, but about the image she was trying to maintain towards the guys.
  • After mocking, will see to establish a sexual frame.
  • Having trouble actually gauging the girl’s interest. Would text her more than a month later.
  • Overall I will see to go out with more genuine sexual intent.
 

Railer

Cro-Magnon Man
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Sortie 33

Code:
Objectives: explore the pubs with friends

Plan of action: open early and open all girls i fancy

Exfil: ride to hotel

Chats-Details: 12-2

Overall CDC: 114-50-1 (chat-details-close)

Realization: being interested and kind but not overly eager works well

New country. New city. Quite some IOI’s already on the trip here.

{1} Warm-up by asking for directions on the way to my friends. Greek beauty seems on the fence, but follows the flow her her friends.

{2} Gorgeous silhouette on the other side of the road catches my attention. Head over. Oriental features. Ask for pub we’re looking for. Indicate my interest by asking her name. Responds well. They’re waiting for their cab to ride home. Stoked to get her number. Would respond well to my ice-breaker and quickly ask for my plans for the day.

{3} Takes me three attempts to muster up the courage to open a set of eight (!) beauties sitting at a table. Stand close and ask casually where they were from. Choke on my drink as I find they’re from a place where I experienced girls being very stand-offish.

{4} Remember the strategy of introducing girls to my friend (S-28), ask which one he likes. Head over. Tell her that my friend would like to get to know her: "The hunky guy over my left shoulder." He’s too old she points out. "Who actually cares? … How old are you?" I’m 19. "Hmm okay … So you care a lot about age?" Actually not really. Seems to be more worried about her image than the actual age difference. Tell her to give him a chance. They chat for a bit. Her two friends quickly pull her out.

{5} Re-open girls from the 8-set. Talk to the super-tiny, super-slim one this time. Cannot get her to give me her number.

{6} Open 2-set taking pictures. Bit drunk but attracted. Seed the idea of sharing a cab ride to the next place together. Take them with us, but we mostly ramble without a clear destination.

Fun when an inflated gay guy calls me Calvin Klein and keeps complimenting. Feels good and he’s cool, but I’m happy my friend cuts in to add some gap.

{7} At a karaoke bar a curly haired girl is singing her guts out. She’s damn cute. Later I go up: "Oh my good it’s you! I’m your biggest fan! Can I have your baby?" Her friend who’s more fluent has to translate, then she laughs. Direct myself a bit more at the group in general - four girls, one guy. Then make sure she knows she’s my reason to be there. Give an IOI by asking her name. Refers to a boyfriend as I attempt to get details.

{8} Girl in one of the groups we by now merged with opens me. One of the guys is her boyfriend. As they walk off, the guy invites me to join them. Would only realize the next day that they might have been open to - or even looking for - some special experience.

{9} Us still with the two tipsy girls close-by, another girl who eye-fucked me at the karaoke bar opens me. Joins us. As we loose the tipsy girls, tell her: "Go after! Tell her to come home with us!" Realizing her opportunity, runs after, but returns empty-handedly.

At this point I’m merely pinging sets. Even open remainders of the initial eight-set - a third time. The girls notice and success is nil {10}{11}{12}.

Intel
  • Will say something like: "I know you’re probably not in the mode right now, but I like you - can I grab your details and catch up later?" in situations like the on with the Greek girl.
  • There’s no reason to think that girls from certain regions are all hard-to-get, especially when on vacation or not even actually from the city, but its outskirts.
  • Girl admitting she actually didn’t care too much about age was a very interesting response. And asking like this might be a good way to disarm her resistance.
  • Will quickly switch back to the girl I initially opened, instead of directing my interest to a new one when re-opening a set.
  • There was a moment I felt like I could and should kiss the tipsy girl shortly into the first conversation. Next time, will follow my instincts on this.
  • To get them to join us, I gave the tipsy girl a call - something I’d have never done before - and it works well too. Just do what the situation demands to not waste time.
  • Will be aware of couples that may be scouting. Guy was sufficiently clean and wouldn’t have minded teaming up to take care of his girl together.
  • If a girl is eager like that one I’ll make sure to get details before I forget to do so.
 
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